"Contemporary" seems to be used in so many ways that, out of context,
it's practically meaningless. One way in the classical field - and
they can't agree whether it means post-tonal or post-1970. Then
there's "Adult Contemporary" describing a type of radio playlist.
There's "Christian Contemporary" for the sort of watered-down rock
that infects some churches.

I don't see any references to it meaning "current popular music",
which is what someone outside the field might expect it to mean.

At least the world (except Arny) agrees pretty well on the definition
of Sub-bass, Bass, Midrange etc. :-)

"Keith G" wrote in message
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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:

'Who Groves is'....???

Well Kitty, I can take that as a claim by you that there never was a
person named Grove who was related to this work:



Somebody open a window, please....




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grove_D..._and_Musicians

Grove's Dictionary
It was first published as A Dictionary of Music and Musicians in four
volumes (1878, 1880, 1883, 1899) edited by Sir George Grove with an
Appendix edited by J. A. Fuller Maitland and an Index edited by Mrs.
Edmund Wodehouse.

LOL!

He's got no ****ing idea has he? Wot a bull****ter!!

Speaking in the vernacular around here is a ton of fun.

Wot a great way to bait the local pedants!

LOL!


Nice try Amy - keep wriggling if you want, but it isn't working...

Nice try? I think it's very sad:-(

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:10:19 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

As far as the festival work goes, down to whatever a NT4 does. ;-)

I've got one of these, and find it makes rather boring recordings, (if
that's understandable :-) Is it a favourite of yours? I'd love to
hear some short examples.

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:10:19 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

As far as the festival work goes, down to whatever a NT4
does. ;-)

I've got one of these, and find it makes rather boring
recordings, (if that's understandable :-) Is it a
favourite of yours?

Let's put it this way, for me the NT4 is a tool of commerce.

I'd love to hear some short examples.

I've said what I'm going to say about that until there's real change around
here.

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:26:28 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

With the level of musicians that I work, I would suspect that less than a
third of the adults and almost none of the children know what Grove's is.

Wake up, Arny! You're not talking to them, you're talking to us.
Appropriate language gets your meaning across in both cases.

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:


So one and all, read Bobby's book about mixing, but it
will be a cosmic waste of time unless you actually go
hands one with a mixing console fairly often. Good fun
for technical voyeurs, and there's nothing wrong with
that. But, its not me. For me mixing fair-sized events
is a participant sport that I play several times a
week.
The way I have it is you record only the one ensemble -
no?
If you are talking about the church thing,

Yes, 'the church thing' I suppose...

there are actually two overapping
ensembles, the traditional ensemble and the contemporary
ensemble. There is also the speech, the drama, and
production and some authoring of audio and video that is
used various ways, including accompianment.

And they want/need *everything* recorded...??

Part of the job.

(Don't they ever get fed up of the mics??)

If there were no mics and the technology behind them, many of them would
never be heard by the audience.



But don't they ever get fed up of the mics?



The band and choir festival thing which is starting
shortly, involves well over 100 ensembles per year.

Sorry, I don't understand what that means - the festival
is a year's recordings...??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_festival


snip


Cut & pastes from the Wiki is the last refuge of a scoundrel...

:-)

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:32:21 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


I've got one of these, and find it makes rather boring
recordings, (if that's understandable :-) Is it a
favourite of yours?

Let's put it this way, for me the NT4 is a tool of commerce.

Well, at least you're doing SOME paying work :-)


I'd love to hear some short examples.

I've said what I'm going to say about that until there's real change around
here.

I don't think there will be, until you display some results to back up
all your opinions. Careful proof-reading of your posts might help.
If you're going to use standard terms in a non-standard way, explain
them BEFORE you're picked up on it :-) Else you just have to bluster
or wriggle, as the phrase "I stand corrected" doesn't seem to be in
your vocabulary.

Of course, if you can display some stunning results, you'll be
immediately forgiven your strange ideas.

Iain Churches wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message
...
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:

'Who Groves is'....???
Well Kitty, I can take that as a claim by you that there never was a
person named Grove who was related to this work:


Somebody open a window, please....



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grove_D..._and_Musicians

Grove's Dictionary
It was first published as A Dictionary of Music and Musicians in four
volumes (1878, 1880, 1883, 1899) edited by Sir George Grove with an
Appendix edited by J. A. Fuller Maitland and an Index edited by Mrs.
Edmund Wodehouse.

LOL!
He's got no ****ing idea has he? Wot a bull****ter!!
Speaking in the vernacular around here is a ton of fun.

Wot a great way to bait the local pedants!

LOL!

Nice try Amy - keep wriggling if you want, but it isn't working...

Nice try? I think it's very sad:-(





Sad?

Hilarious more like! - In his attempts to avoid plain-spoken
*factualities* he relies more on 'hints and allegations' than Paul Simon!!

:-)

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:32:21 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


I've got one of these, and find it makes rather boring
recordings, (if that's understandable :-) Is it a
favourite of yours?

Let's put it this way, for me the NT4 is a tool of
commerce.

Well, at least you're doing SOME paying work :-)


I'd love to hear some short examples.

I've said what I'm going to say about that until there's
real change around here.

I don't think there will be, until you display some
results to back up all your opinions.

The ability of certain members of this forum to ignore reliable references
is well-known. Since they have backed up many of my opinons in the past, the
futility of expecting any real change around here is pretty obvious.

You ain't my daddies, Laurence, Kitty, Iain.

"Keith G" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message


Arny Krueger wrote:

If you are talking about the church thing,

Yes, 'the church thing' I suppose...

there are actually two overapping
ensembles, the traditional ensemble and the
contemporary ensemble. There is also the speech, the
drama, and production and some authoring of audio and
video that is used various ways, including
accompianment.

And they want/need *everything* recorded...??

Part of the job.

(Don't they ever get fed up of the mics??)

If there were no mics and the technology behind them,
many of them would never be heard by the audience.

But don't they ever get fed up of the mics?

We all (that is everybody who actually touches such things early and often)
get fed up with mics, even those of us who choose and plant them.

Necessary evil.