Recording software for Mac?
 

On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:11:11 +0000, Keith G
wrote:

I don't claim to have any 'skills' but I seem to be importing non-Mac
software for the jobs I need to do! iPhoto is a handy, simple/simplistic
prog for dealing with my snaps, but I haven't really gone with any other
of the bundled Mac software yet!

That said (Rob) I do like the machine a lot - it's nippy, neat and has a
clean-looking front end with a much better 'feel' than 'bloaty' old
Windows Vista!!

"Bloat" always makes me think of a Mac, with those inflatable icons
:-) I'm sure it can be configured not to do this. Even Vista is
pretty configurable too. What's important is how it behaves when
you're in an application. On Mac I'd be paying for a suite of
entry-level "creative" applications that I don't want or need. I
guess that's "bloat" as well.

Recording software for Mac?
 

On 14/01/2010 17:11, Keith G wrote:
Laurence Payne wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:01:17 +0000, Keith G
wrote:

GarageBand is already on it.


I looked at it and it didn't look suitable....??

I think there's a perfectly functional audio recorder underneath all
that "make a collage of samples" stuff. Trouble is, Macs aren't
aimed at creative people, just at wannabe creatives who lack any
skills :-)



I don't claim to have any 'skills' but I seem to be importing non-Mac
software for the jobs I need to do! iPhoto is a handy, simple/simplistic
prog for dealing with my snaps, but I haven't really gone with any other
of the bundled Mac software yet!

That said (Rob) I do like the machine a lot - it's nippy, neat and has a
clean-looking front end with a much better 'feel' than 'bloaty' old
Windows Vista!!


Splendid!


Early daze....


Indeed - it is all a different way of doing things. I use very little
non-OS Apple software - iPhoto, iTunes, that's about it.

Recording software for Mac?
 

Laurence Payne wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:11:11 +0000, Keith G
wrote:

I don't claim to have any 'skills' but I seem to be importing non-Mac
software for the jobs I need to do! iPhoto is a handy, simple/simplistic
prog for dealing with my snaps, but I haven't really gone with any other
of the bundled Mac software yet!

That said (Rob) I do like the machine a lot - it's nippy, neat and has a
clean-looking front end with a much better 'feel' than 'bloaty' old
Windows Vista!!

"Bloat" always makes me think of a Mac, with those inflatable icons
:-) I'm sure it can be configured not to do this. Even Vista is
pretty configurable too. What's important is how it behaves when
you're in an application. On Mac I'd be paying for a suite of
entry-level "creative" applications that I don't want or need. I
guess that's "bloat" as well.



I have a feeling I shan't use the bundled applications either and I did
get an 'Audacity has closed unexpectedly' message a while back so who
knows how it'll work out, but the fact is when I had 3 machines on the
go, swapping stuff between them, the Mac and the XP machine felt faster,
neater and generally less 'encumbered' than the Vista machine!

One really good thing is that with all my pix (17,000) and music
(18,000+ tracks) from the last nn years on the piddly little Mac now,
there is enough disk space left to *double* it all!!

Let's just hope I live that long!! ;-)

Recording software for Mac?
 

On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:31:51 +0000, Keith G
wrote:

when I had 3 machines on the
go, swapping stuff between them, the Mac and the XP machine felt faster,
neater and generally less 'encumbered' than the Vista machine!

You'll like Windows 7 then.

Recording software for Mac?
 

Laurence Payne wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:31:51 +0000, Keith G
wrote:

when I had 3 machines on the
go, swapping stuff between them, the Mac and the XP machine felt faster,
neater and generally less 'encumbered' than the Vista machine!

You'll like Windows 7 then.


Unlikely - I have no plans to buy it!!

;-)

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"Keith G" wrote in message

Laurence Payne wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:31:51 +0000, Keith G
wrote:

when I had 3 machines on the
go, swapping stuff between them, the Mac and the XP
machine felt faster, neater and generally less
'encumbered' than the Vista machine!

You'll like Windows 7 then.


Unlikely - I have no plans to buy it!!

That's like saying that you don't intend to buy a new PC for the next 5-7
years.

Recording software for Mac?
 

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Laurence Payne wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:31:51 +0000, Keith G
wrote:

when I had 3 machines on the go, swapping stuff between them, the
Mac and the XP machine felt faster, neater and generally less
'encumbered' than the Vista machine!

You'll like Windows 7 then.


Unlikely - I have no plans to buy it!!

That's like saying that you don't intend to buy a new PC for the next
5-7 years.

Especially since even if you don't want or use it, most 'PC' sic
hardware makers and retailers tend to force you into paying for it
regardless. So much for the 'free market' sic again. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

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Laurence Payne wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:31:51 +0000, Keith G
wrote:

when I had 3 machines on the go, swapping stuff
between them, the Mac and the XP machine felt faster,
neater and generally less 'encumbered' than the Vista
machine!

You'll like Windows 7 then.


Unlikely - I have no plans to buy it!!

That's like saying that you don't intend to buy a new PC
for the next 5-7 years.

Especially since even if you don't want or use it, most
'PC' sic hardware makers and retailers tend to force
you into paying for it regardless.

Dell has done a good job of maintaining the availability of XP throughout
the Vista catastrophe. HP as well, perhaps. Their corporate clients demanded
it.

So much for the 'free market' sic again. :-)

Windows 7 is going to be sold by the fact that it has the definitive
implementation of both 64 bit hardware support and also virtual machines.
There are enough applications that pretty well tie up a complete 32 bit
address space that multitasking them immediately propels you into 4 GB
RAM, and 64 bits.

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Laurence Payne wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:31:51 +0000, Keith G
wrote:

when I had 3 machines on the go, swapping stuff between them, the
Mac and the XP machine felt faster, neater and generally less
'encumbered' than the Vista machine!

You'll like Windows 7 then.


Unlikely - I have no plans to buy it!!

That's like saying that you don't intend to buy a new PC for the next
5-7 years.

Especially since even if you don't want or use it, most 'PC' sic
hardware makers and retailers tend to force you into paying for it
regardless.

Dell has done a good job of maintaining the availability of XP
throughout the Vista catastrophe. HP as well, perhaps. Their corporate
clients demanded it.

I'm sure that is of interest to those who 'want' XP. However some of us
don't want/need/wish to have to pay for or use any Windows OS of any
version.

So much for the 'free market' sic again. :-)

Windows 7 is going to be sold by the fact that it has the definitive
implementation of both 64 bit hardware support and also virtual
machines.

In the UK, Windows is mainly "sold by" the retailer/maker attitude, "That's
what the PC comes with, Sir. It is a part of the package price. We don't
sell the hardware without it." You can perhaps choose XP rather than 7,
but what if you don't want either, or any version of Windows, but want
the hardware?

Is that different in the USA? Do most 'PC' sic retailers there stock most
of their hardware with a choice of Windows and Linux so buyers can compare
and don't have to pay for Windows if they don't want it - just to get the
hardware? Is the same hardware then always cheaper when you don't get
Windows on it?

This is veering OT, I suppose. But perhaps we can at least get a strained
link by noting that MacOS these days is in some ways a commercial BSD
distro IIUC. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me.
Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

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Laurence Payne wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:31:51 +0000, Keith G
wrote:

when I had 3 machines on the go, swapping stuff
between them, the Mac and the XP machine felt
faster, neater and generally less 'encumbered' than
the Vista machine!

You'll like Windows 7 then.


Unlikely - I have no plans to buy it!!

That's like saying that you don't intend to buy a new
PC for the next 5-7 years.

Especially since even if you don't want or use it,
most 'PC' sic hardware makers and retailers tend to
force you into paying for it regardless.

Dell has done a good job of maintaining the availability
of XP throughout the Vista catastrophe. HP as well,
perhaps. Their corporate clients demanded it.

I'm sure that is of interest to those who 'want' XP.
However some of us don't want/need/wish to have to pay
for or use any Windows OS of any version.

That's a choice you get to make.

So much for the 'free market' sic again. :-)

Windows 7 is going to be sold by the fact that it has
the definitive implementation of both 64 bit hardware
support and also virtual machines.

In the UK, Windows is mainly "sold by" the retailer/maker
attitude, "That's what the PC comes with, Sir. It is a
part of the package price. We don't sell the hardware
without it."

The US, perhaps being a more diverse place, has a number of examples of
retailers and manufactuers who aren't that narrow-minded.

You can perhaps choose XP rather than 7, but
what if you don't want either, or any version of Windows,
but want the hardware?

That's a choice you get to make.


Is that different in the USA?

I cited 2 examples, and there are others.

Do most 'PC' sic
retailers there stock most of their hardware with a
choice of Windows and Linux so buyers can compare and
don't have to pay for Windows if they don't want it -
just to get the hardware?


The market for PCs in the US does not support *that*.

Linux support is a niche market. If you ask around in the right places you
can obtain *bare* PCs, and you can also obtain PC's with *inux pre-loaded. I
believe that a large retailer in the US named Tiger Direct has off-the-shelf
*inux PCs for sale. I think that IBM sells them, but you have to buy their
services package. I think that a little sweet talk to Dell and HP might get
you what you want for a respectible price.

Is the same hardware then
always cheaper when you don't get Windows on it?

I am unaware of the details of that segment of the market. I just know it is
relatively small (meaning that it might be impressive on its own right but
gets dwarfed by the rest of the market), and it has non-trivial support. I
also know that my local office supply superstore won't go there. Truth is
someplace in-between.

This is veering OT, I suppose. But perhaps we can at
least get a strained link by noting that MacOS these days
is in some ways a commercial BSD distro IIUC. :-)

That would be no joke. That it runs on hardware that would be a PC aside
from some artificial roadblocks, is yet another triumph of commerce over
technical diversity.