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bcoombes wrote:
Keith G wrote:
Laurence Payne wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:08:56 +0000, bcoombes bcoombes@orangedotnet
wrote:

This is an unmoderated group, part of unmoderated usenet..easily
harmed people shouldn't be here. Having said that I'm expecting a
big apology from Arny cos he upset me by accusing me of having his
goat.

Wasn't there one forum that COULD ban Arny, and did? I know he
wriggles hard when it's mentioned.



Banning Arny (or anyone else) is easy!


Don't ban Arny, he's all part of the rich mix.




'Rich mix'..???

:-)

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In article , Laurence Payne
wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 09:29:27 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
wrote:

However I'm personally quite happy with a "choose the tool that suits
you for the task in hand" approach, so don't expect everyone to have
the same preferences as myself.

I'm intrigued whether this was really your procedure. You discovered a
nifty application that ran only on Linux or RISC so kitted up with a
suitable system to run it? I rather suspect it was the other way
round, you fell in love with the os and stoutly maintain the available
applications aren't really THAT bad :-)

Well, I've been using RO for home uses for many years because it has the
apps, etc, that I find let me work as I choose. Examples like TechWriter
which I find lets me create technical documents easily. Matter of taste.

I (re-)started using Linux recently because there were some things I wanted
to do which RO are excluded from. Mainly to listen to the iPlayer where the
stream is wrapped into a Flash layer. Adobe haven't released a Flash system
for RO and there are too few RO users for anyone to have taken on the task
of doing an equivalent.

Chose Linux mainly because I am familiar with Unix over many years of
occasional uses, and TBH fine Windows a PITA in various ways and never
really liked it. But I would not have bothered with Linux again if RO
software had been easily feasible for the specific task.

I was quite impressed by the changes to Linux between recent Ubuntu based
distros and the things I distros of some years ago. Much easier use via
desktop and GUI for tasks that suit that, and more in the way of user
software for non-geeks. So since giving it a new try-out for a specific
purpose I've been experimenting with using it for other things.

However I've used various OSs from the days of using ICL1900s and the DAPS
at QMC, also PDPs, a GEC system, a Cromemco, etc. I also have occasionally
used Windows, but find it tends to obscure the view so far as I am
concerned. Matter of taste and personal experience.

If others prefer Windows or Macs that's fine with me. I don't feel any need
to 'advocate' Linux (if I did feel like that I'd be doing it for RO :-) ).
If Windows or Mac floats someone's boat, fine. Use what you like as you
like.

I raised the matter really because of the general behaviour I described.
That in practice you find you are generally expected to pay for Windows
even if you have no wish to use it. Sort of a 'Tax' imposed if you want
particular hardware. I've just paid the money and wiped it. Uncle Bill
would be rich even without my few quid. :-) But it seems an
anti-competitive practice to me. Hence my curiosity to see if the same
behaviour crops up in the USA.

Slainte,

Jim

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In article
,
D.M. Procida wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:

But it is all harmless. When all the posts are read, nobody is hurt,

I really don't think that's true.

More please....?

I think that words can hurt and harm people, and that there are some
damaged and easily-harmed people around.

I also think it deters some people from bothering to post who might
otherwise have something informative and interesting to contribute. And
others who may wish to ask questions without being ridiculed or find they
can't get a useful answer because people are too keen to bicker.

Slainte,

Jim

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Keith G wrote:
bcoombes wrote:
Keith G wrote:
Laurence Payne wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:08:56 +0000, bcoombes bcoombes@orangedotnet
wrote:

This is an unmoderated group, part of unmoderated usenet..easily
harmed people shouldn't be here. Having said that I'm expecting a
big apology from Arny cos he upset me by accusing me of having his
goat.

Wasn't there one forum that COULD ban Arny, and did? I know he
wriggles hard when it's mentioned.



Banning Arny (or anyone else) is easy!


Don't ban Arny, he's all part of the rich mix.




'Rich mix'..???

:-)


Life's rich mix....as opposed to Arny's rich mix which for well documented
reasons no one ever gets to hear.



--
Bill Coombes

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bcoombes wrote:
Keith G wrote:
bcoombes wrote:
Keith G wrote:
Laurence Payne wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:08:56 +0000, bcoombes bcoombes@orangedotnet
wrote:

This is an unmoderated group, part of unmoderated usenet..easily
harmed people shouldn't be here. Having said that I'm expecting a
big apology from Arny cos he upset me by accusing me of having his
goat.

Wasn't there one forum that COULD ban Arny, and did? I know he
wriggles hard when it's mentioned.



Banning Arny (or anyone else) is easy!


Don't ban Arny, he's all part of the rich mix.




'Rich mix'..???

:-)


Life's rich mix....as opposed to Arny's rich mix which for well
documented reasons no one ever gets to hear.



I think he's got *fees* in mind these days - quickest way in the world
to find out what people really think of something is to try charging for
it!!

:-)

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In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote:
You'll like Windows 7 then.


Unlikely - I have no plans to buy it!!

That's like saying that you don't intend to buy a new PC for the next
5-7 years.

Especially since even if you don't want or use it, most 'PC' sic
hardware makers and retailers tend to force you into paying for it
regardless. So much for the 'free market' sic again. :-)

Surely Jim you assemble your own PC? Makes far more sense as you can spec
it to exactly your requirements as well as save a deal of money. And also
then just buy the software you need - or use what you already have.
Not so easy with a laptop, of course.

--
*Money isn't everything, but it sure keeps the kids in touch.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in
message
In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote:
You'll like Windows 7 then.


Unlikely - I have no plans to buy it!!

That's like saying that you don't intend to buy a new
PC for the next 5-7 years.

Especially since even if you don't want or use it, most
'PC' sic hardware makers and retailers tend to force
you into paying for it regardless. So much for the 'free
market' sic again. :-)

Surely Jim you assemble your own PC? Makes far more sense
as you can spec it to exactly your requirements as well
as save a deal of money. And also then just buy the
software you need - or use what you already have.

Search on "Barebone Desktop"

Not so easy with a laptop, of course.

Search on "Barebone Laptop".

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In article ,
Arny Krueger wrote:
Surely Jim you assemble your own PC? Makes far more sense
as you can spec it to exactly your requirements as well
as save a deal of money. And also then just buy the
software you need - or use what you already have.

Search on "Barebone Desktop"

Prefer to select all the bits myself. Including PS.

Not so easy with a laptop, of course.

Search on "Barebone Laptop".

Not too interested in those. ;-)

--
*If love is blind, why is lingerie so popular?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article , Jim Lesurf
wrote:
You'll like Windows 7 then.


Unlikely - I have no plans to buy it!!

That's like saying that you don't intend to buy a new PC for the
next 5-7 years.

Especially since even if you don't want or use it, most 'PC' sic
hardware makers and retailers tend to force you into paying for it
regardless. So much for the 'free market' sic again. :-)

Surely Jim you assemble your own PC?

No. Nor until the last year have I ever bought an 'IBM PC' type machine.
Just used ones from/at work for the minority of tasks that one was needed
for. Haven't had any interest in the hardware save as something upon which
to run software until recently. Most of my work was - and still is - on
hardware that isn't standard IBM PC/x86.

Makes far more sense as you can spec it to exactly your requirements as
well as save a deal of money. And also then just buy the software you
need - or use what you already have. Not so easy with a laptop, of
course.

No doubt I could spend a fair bit of time learning to build my own. May do
so someday. But thus far I've been fairly happy with items from suppliers
I've found generally reliable. Most recently the primary aim was to get a
working system with a modern Linux distribution, and had enough to do with
understanding the details of their modern GUIs, etc, and sorting out
writing software and checking how the system behaved, etc.

I did wonder about self build. But one snag was that I could not find any
reliable data for basic questions like if items would reliably deliver bit
perfect LPCM for spdif or levels of THD, noise, etc, for analogue. In
general all the 'technical info' about sound input and output tends to be
fairly useless 'it works' comments - when as measurements showed the
results could easily be crippled by things like needless and badly done
resampling, lack of headroom, etc.

No doubt I could have worked though it in time, but I have fewer years left
that I used to! :-) And computer hardware makers tend to 'churn' models
all the time. So you may find that you keep being unable to buy what you
previously measured s working well.

I'm happy enough with the results I got. In each case I obtained a machine
that basically did what I required and measured well in a matter of weeks.

FWIW For similar reasons I'm now using a Tascam HD P2 rather that trying to
sort out soundcards that can reach 192k/24. Also means I can use the
recorder with any machine and OS that can read CF cards. So in practice am
using my Iyonix most of the time for working with recordings done that way.
Although I do plan to also produce ROX/Linux software to process the
recordings as well.

Been doing some assessement on the HD P2 and so far think it is quite good,
albeit with some quirks.

In fact I am now also curious about using the HD P2 as a player for BWF as
part of the audio system. May be convenient for 48k and higher material.
Now I've sussed how to read/write BWF this is something I may give a try.

Slainte,

Jim

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Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message


I did wonder about self build. But one snag was that I
could not find any reliable data for basic questions like
if items would reliably deliver bit perfect LPCM for
spdif

They all do, or else they wouldn't work with DVD multichannel.

or levels of THD, noise, etc, for analogue.

Think 80 dB or better dynamic range for on-board audio.

In general all the 'technical info' about sound input and
output tends to be fairly useless 'it works' comments -

For on board audio 1 volt = FS in and out. Zin about 10k or better, Zout
about 16 ohms.

If you get a proper interface desgned for audio production, then you get
whatever you pay for. $200 or less should get you 100 dB dynamic range.


when as measurements showed the results could easily be
crippled by things like needless and badly done
resampling, lack of headroom, etc.

Search for "Audio Rightmark" reports on various system boards.