"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Mr DAB refuses to acknowledge that the current system was finalized
long before any of his alternatives.


AAC was standardised in 1997, DAB was properly launched in the UK in
2002.

Doubt anyone cares about when you think DAB was 'properly' launched.


Doubt anyone cares about what you think about anything.


Bank on it....

In article ,
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
It wasn't designed by 'BBC executives' But altered by them later.
After very few appeared to want to use it. But don't let facts get in
the way of your rants.


AAC was available from 1997. The BBC ignored the existence of AAC and
lanched DAB anyway. That is grossly incompetent.

The DAB spec was finalised long before 1997. Same as anything else like
that.

--
that votes*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
bcoombes bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Mr DAB refuses to acknowledge that the current system was finalized
long before any of his alternatives.


AAC was standardised in 1997, DAB was properly launched in the UK in
2002.

Doubt anyone cares about when you think DAB was 'properly' launched.


Doubt anyone cares about what you think about anything.

You obviously do since you've replied.

--
*The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message
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DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
David Looser wrote:
"DAB sounds worse than FM" wrote


Or should I say DAB Fanboy 3, IIRC?
You don't, remember correctly that is.


What, so you're not going to take me to task on my explanation about
efficiency? I was dearly hoping you would, to be honest.


Standard David Loser technique....swerve around the embarrassing bit and
try and make an issue of something minor.


Standard Bill Coombes technique, post a gratuitously offensive remarked just
because he has nothing better to do with his life.

As it happens, unlike you, I have a life. So I have not as yet had an
opportunity to produce a considered response to Mr "DAB sounds worse than
FM" lengthy post. I will tomorrow.

David.

"DAB sounds worse than FM" wrote


Yes, I've come across Loser before, and your description is the same as I
remember him.


Whilst you, as I remember, regards anyone who doesn't back you 100% in your
obsession with DAB and the BBC as an "enemy".

So if you and your new friend Bill like to indulge in a little bit of mutual
back-scratching based on gratuitous insults to anyone who doesn't fall into
raptures of admiration at the pearls of wisdom that fall from your keyboard,
be my guest.

David.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Mr DAB refuses to acknowledge that the current system was finalized
long before any of his alternatives.


AAC was standardised in 1997, DAB was properly launched in the UK in
2002.

Doubt anyone cares about when you think DAB was 'properly' launched.


At the risk of actually siding with Steve, I do think that the DAB spec was
finalised too early. It was many years afterwards that receivers cheap
enough for ordinary people to buy became available, during those years there
was opportunity to have updated the audio codec at least.

Unlike digital TV, DAB has been, and continues to be, a hard sell. By and
large people don't want DAB sets and are not buying them in sufficient
numbers to allow analogue to be switched-off in anything remotely
approaching the timetable that Ofcom have in mind. Frankly I can see no good
reason to switch analogue off at all, it's hardly going to save much
spectrum.

David.

David Looser wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Mr DAB refuses to acknowledge that the current system was finalized
long before any of his alternatives.

AAC was standardised in 1997, DAB was properly launched in the UK in
2002.
Doubt anyone cares about when you think DAB was 'properly' launched.


At the risk of actually siding with Steve, I do think that the DAB spec was
finalised too early. It was many years afterwards that receivers cheap
enough for ordinary people to buy became available, during those years there
was opportunity to have updated the audio codec at least.

Unlike digital TV, DAB has been, and continues to be, a hard sell. By and
large people don't want DAB sets and are not buying them in sufficient
numbers to allow analogue to be switched-off in anything remotely
approaching the timetable that Ofcom have in mind. Frankly I can see no good
reason to switch analogue off at all, it's hardly going to save much
spectrum.


At the risk of actually siding with David the above post pretty much perfectly
describes the 'DAB' situation.

--
Bill Coombes

David Looser wrote:
"DAB sounds worse than FM" wrote


Yes, I've come across Loser before, and your description is the same as I
remember him.


Whilst you, as I remember, regards anyone who doesn't back you 100% in
your obsession with DAB and the BBC as an "enemy".


I disagree. Anyway, at least I don't spout bull****, which is most
definitely my recollection of your posting style.


So if you and your new friend Bill like to indulge in a little bit of
mutual back-scratching based on gratuitous insults to anyone who doesn't
fall into raptures of admiration at the pearls of wisdom that fall from
your keyboard, be my guest.


Ok. Enjoy the low audio quality on DAB, anyway.


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - digital radio news & info

The BBC's "justification" of digital radio switchover is based on lies

David Looser wrote:
"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message
...
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
David Looser wrote:
"DAB sounds worse than FM" wrote


Or should I say DAB Fanboy 3, IIRC?
You don't, remember correctly that is.


What, so you're not going to take me to task on my explanation about
efficiency? I was dearly hoping you would, to be honest.


Standard David Loser technique....swerve around the embarrassing bit and
try and make an issue of something minor.


Standard Bill Coombes technique, post a gratuitously offensive remarked
just because he has nothing better to do with his life.


Gratuitously offensive? It wasn't even offensive, you clown. Told you you
spout bull**** all the time.


As it happens, unlike you, I have a life.


That's an insult that's never been used on Usenet or on any forum ever
before.


So I have not as yet had an
opportunity to produce a considered response to Mr "DAB sounds worse than
FM" lengthy post. I will tomorrow.


What, you're going to try and disagree with some of the things I wrote in
the longer post about the efficiency of DVB-T2 vs DAB? Good luck with that.


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - digital radio news & info

The BBC's "justification" of digital radio switchover is based on lies

David Looser wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Mr DAB refuses to acknowledge that the current system was finalized
long before any of his alternatives.


AAC was standardised in 1997, DAB was properly launched in the UK in
2002.

Doubt anyone cares about when you think DAB was 'properly' launched.


At the risk of actually siding with Steve, I do think that the DAB spec
was finalised too early. It was many years afterwards that receivers cheap
enough for ordinary people to buy became available, during those years
there was opportunity to have updated the audio codec at least.


Well bugger me senseless. Sense has broken out in uk.rec.audio for once!!!


Unlike digital TV, DAB has been, and continues to be, a hard sell. By and
large people don't want DAB sets and are not buying them in sufficient
numbers to allow analogue to be switched-off in anything remotely
approaching the timetable that Ofcom have in mind. Frankly I can see no
good reason to switch analogue off at all, it's hardly going to save much
spectrum.


Well said David. I can see we're going to become close friends after all.


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - digital radio news & info

The BBC's "justification" of digital radio switchover is based on lies