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David[_2_] March 11th 10 09:51 AM

Philips TDA1541A S1 DAC
 
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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This is the correct usage though. My Naim amps work fine at the moment
but could probably do with a service (re-cap etc.) to bring them back
to their best.


I'd call that a repair.


They are not damaged.
Capacitors wear out, they are a consumable. No difference from spark plugs
in a car being replaced. Part of a service to get it's best performance.



Jim Lesurf[_2_] March 11th 10 11:14 AM

Philips TDA1541A S1 DAC
 
In article , David
wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
This is the correct usage though. My Naim amps work fine at the
moment but could probably do with a service (re-cap etc.) to bring
them back to their best.


I'd call that a repair.


They are not damaged. Capacitors wear out, they are a consumable.


In the same sense that other components like transistors, resistors, and -
to drag this back on topic - a DAC IC can age, yes. Does that mean Oddjob's
speakers need a 'service' or a 'repair'? ;-

However despite the above I've personally happily used many bits of
domestic kit for decades with no actual sign that the caps need changing.
So the degree to which this is 'service' does seem to depend on a mix of
the design, use, and choice of the source of the components.

But then, I wouldn't have chosen to use older designs of Naim equipment
anyway for other reasons... :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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Arny Krueger March 11th 10 11:24 AM

Teaching the English about how to use *our* language...
 
"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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Hmm. Interesting. I have just asked my Swedish colleague if he
can diffeerentiate between "service" and "repair" in English. He
looked at me as if I were mad, and said "Surely the two are
totally different things? You repair something that is broken,
but service something as a part of routine scheduled maintenance"


Glad to see that someone here has at least a passing familiarity with the
word that really makes the difference clear: Maintenance. Too bad so many
people here are so full of themselves and their own perceptions of their
authority and perfection.

Service - the act of serving or assisting someone. This includes both
repairing and maintaining. It also includes many other things such as
serving food.

Repair - the service of correcting a fault, such as those due to wear and
tear, or accident.

Maintenance - routine service that puts off or circumvents common faults by
making premptive changes to areas subject to predictable degradation, such
as cleaning and applying fresh lubrication to a bearing.

IOW, both repair and maintenance are services, but many other things are
services as well. In general the same service organizations and service
people provide both repair and maintenance. The office copier service man
repairs faults and also performs scheduled maintenance.





David[_2_] March 11th 10 11:50 AM

Teaching the English about how to use *our* language...
 
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message

Service - the act of serving or assisting someone. This includes both
repairing and maintaining. It also includes many other things such as
serving food.

Repair - the service of correcting a fault, such as those due to wear and
tear, or accident.

Maintenance - routine service that puts off or circumvents common faults
by making premptive changes to areas subject to predictable degradation,
such as cleaning and applying fresh lubrication to a bearing.

IOW, both repair and maintenance are services, but many other things are
services as well. In general the same service organizations and service
people provide both repair and maintenance. The office copier service man
repairs faults and also performs scheduled maintenance.


You've nearly got it!

Just swap the two words Service & Maintenance over above and you're spot on.

Maintenance includes both service and repair.
By servicing and repairing as necessary you maintain the continued optimum
function of something.



Phil Allison[_2_] March 11th 10 11:50 AM

Philips TDA1541A S1 DAC
 
"David"

** You are nothing but a VILE cock sucking TROLL !!


Live and let live!


Indeed, I was just commenting that Don's original post was correct.



** You are nothing but a VILE cock sucking TROLL !!

Cancer is way too good for genetic defective SCUMBAGS like you.

**** OFF & DIE now !!




..... Phil







Phil Allison[_2_] March 11th 10 11:51 AM

Philips TDA1541A S1 DAC
 


"David"

** You are nothing but a VILE cock sucking TROLL !!


Live and let live!


Indeed, I was just commenting that Don's original post was correct.



** You are nothing but a VILE cock sucking TROLL !!

Cancer is way too good for genetic defective SCUMBAGS like you.

**** OFF & DIE now !!




..... Phil







Phil Allison[_2_] March 11th 10 11:52 AM

Philips TDA1541A S1 DAC
 

"David"

** You are nothing but a VILE cock sucking TROLL !!


Live and let live!


Indeed, I was just commenting that Don's original post was correct.



** You are nothing but a VILE cock sucking TROLL !!

Cancer is way too good for genetic defective SCUMBAGS like you.

**** OFF & DIE now !!




..... Phil







Phil Allison[_2_] March 11th 10 11:52 AM

Teaching the English about how to use *our* language...
 

"David"

** You are nothing but a VILE cock sucking TROLL !!


Live and let live!


Indeed, I was just commenting that Don's original post was correct.



** You are nothing but a VILE cock sucking TROLL !!

Cancer is way too good for genetic defective SCUMBAGS like you.

**** OFF & DIE now !!




..... Phil







Phil Allison[_2_] March 11th 10 11:56 AM

Philips TDA1541A S1 DAC
 


"David"

** You are nothing but a VILE cock sucking TROLL !!


Live and let live!


Indeed, I was just commenting that Don's original post was correct.



** You are nothing but a VILE cock sucking TROLL !!

Cancer is way too good for genetic defective SCUMBAGS like you.

**** OFF & DIE now !!




..... Phil







Phil Allison[_2_] March 11th 10 11:56 AM

Philips TDA1541A S1 DAC
 


"David"

** You are nothing but a VILE cock sucking TROLL !!


Live and let live!


Indeed, I was just commenting that Don's original post was correct.



** You are nothing but a VILE cock sucking TROLL !!

Cancer is way too good for genetic defective SCUMBAGS like you.

**** OFF & DIE now !!




..... Phil








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