"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"David Looser" wrote in message

Make your mind up as to what point you are making. One minute you are
saying that people (nationality not stated) *were* gullible, but aren't
now.


Where am I saying that?

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They are not so gullible these days
unquote


shrug

Different inflections in different contexts or maybe a good old piece of
contradiction?




I'm saying the (Rip Off) Brits are gullible - I don't know about the
rest.
I do know they got their CDs (and petrol) a lot cheaper than we did.

It is easy to label people who buy things that we personally regard as
poor value for money as being "gullible". To me that would be those who
buy Rolex watches, or designer clothes, or expensive branded trainers. But
those people in the main buy those things because, to them, the price is
acceptable. It's not for me to criticise them for spending their own money
in the way they see fit.


No, I'm not buying that - in the UK people will buy stuff at any price and
will put up with 'because we can' price hikes without a murmur. Volvo and
BMW are just two car makers that told their dealer network 'don't discount
your cars, you don't need to in the UK'.

As to watches, I have bought 8 (eight) Rolexes in my time; the only one
remaining is my son's Submariner, I wear Timex these days. Context is
everything - back then they were not 'expensive' for me....


Brits didn't get the choice of whether to buy CDs or petrol at American
prices, in the case of petrol we still don't. So the fact that an item may
be available cheaper elsewhere does NOT make someone gullible for buying
it at the price that it is available for *to them*


Yes, where there is no choice you have no choice; where the gullibility
comes in is where there is choice and the punter gets 'sold' or the items
are so trivial they could be ignored.

"Keith G" wrote

No, I'm not buying that - in the UK people will buy stuff at any price and
will put up with 'because we can' price hikes without a murmur.

Do they? not in my experience they don't!

Volvo and
BMW are just two car makers that told their dealer network 'don't discount
your cars, you don't need to in the UK'.

I don't beleive you, can you provide evidence for that claim?

As to watches, I have bought 8 (eight) Rolexes in my time; the only one
remaining is my son's Submariner, I wear Timex these days. Context is
everything - back then they were not 'expensive' for me....

It's only a watch. There are plenty of excellent watches that cost a
fraction of the price of a Rolex, so why buy one (unless it's to show off
your wealth).

Yes, where there is no choice you have no choice; where the gullibility
comes in is where there is choice and the punter gets 'sold'

And you know all about that do you?

or the items
are so trivial they could be ignored.

"Trivial" is in the mind of the buyer.

David.

"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote

No, I'm not buying that - in the UK people will buy stuff at any price
and
will put up with 'because we can' price hikes without a murmur.

Do they? not in my experience they don't!


Yes they do, open your eyes.




Volvo and
BMW are just two car makers that told their dealer network 'don't
discount
your cars, you don't need to in the UK'.

I don't beleive you,


I couldn't care less about that - I have never posted anything here that I
didn't believe was true.


can you provide evidence for that claim?



No and a quick search reveals plenty of places offering discounted BMWs
nowadays. That remark is from a few years back I suppose: I remember there
was a Volvo dealer that got into trouble with Volvo because he was importing
cars from Europe (because the Euros got them a lot cheaper than the soppy
Brits) and selling them at a discounted price. It ended up in the courts and
Volvo lost the day ISTR...??



As to watches, I have bought 8 (eight) Rolexes in my time; the only one
remaining is my son's Submariner, I wear Timex these days. Context is
everything - back then they were not 'expensive' for me....

It's only a watch. There are plenty of excellent watches that cost a
fraction of the price of a Rolex, so why buy one (unless it's to show off
your wealth).


Your understanding of the 'Rolex thing' is on a par with your understanding
of 'high end' vinyl replay.



Yes, where there is no choice you have no choice; where the gullibility
comes in is where there is choice and the punter gets 'sold'

And you know all about that do you?


What does that mean? Sounds a bit snotty to me....

In article ,
Keith G wrote:
No, I'm not buying that - in the UK people will buy stuff at any price
and will put up with 'because we can' price hikes without a murmur.
Volvo and BMW are just two car makers that told their dealer network
'don't discount your cars, you don't need to in the UK'.

The only time a dealer gets away without offering a discount is where
demand exceeds supply. This might be occasionally the case with some BMW
and Volvo models - but certainly isn't the case with them all.

--
*A bartender is just a pharmacist with a limited inventory *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Keith G" wrote in message
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"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote

No, I'm not buying that - in the UK people will buy stuff at any price
and
will put up with 'because we can' price hikes without a murmur.

Do they? not in my experience they don't!


Yes they do, open your eyes.

And you are the expert in this are you?



Volvo and
BMW are just two car makers that told their dealer network 'don't
discount
your cars, you don't need to in the UK'.

I don't beleive you,


I couldn't care less about that - I have never posted anything here that I
didn't believe was true.

I didn't say you didn't believe it, I said I didn't. I note you can offer no
evidence, were you told it by a bloke at the pub or read it in a tabloid
newspaper?



snip

Your understanding of the 'Rolex thing' is on a par with your
understanding of 'high end' vinyl replay.

My understanding of the "Rolex thing" is that it's about status and wealth,
do you dispute that?

Yes, where there is no choice you have no choice; where the gullibility
comes in is where there is choice and the punter gets 'sold'

And you know all about that do you?


What does that mean? Sounds a bit snotty to me....

Only copying your own tone back to you. What is your whole "gullible Brits"
thing if not snottiness on your part?

David.

On 28/01/2011 20:54, Keith G wrote:

As to watches, I have bought 8 (eight) Rolexes in my time; the only one
remaining is my son's Submariner, I wear Timex these days. Context is
everything - back then they were not 'expensive' for me....

It's only a watch. There are plenty of excellent watches that cost a
fraction of the price of a Rolex, so why buy one (unless it's to show
off your wealth).


Your understanding of the 'Rolex thing' is on a par with your
understanding of 'high end' vinyl replay.

A Rolex is for impressing the punters. It won't impress anyone who knows
about watches.

And now for a difficult decision - what shall I wear today?
The Omega, Ulysse Nardin, Cartier, J.W. Benson or Longines?
Or maybe the Swatch as I put a new battery in it this week.

--
Eiron.

In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Your understanding of the 'Rolex thing' is on a par with your
understanding of 'high end' vinyl replay.

Rather a good comparison. A much cheaper watch can tell the time as well
if not better than a Rolex. In the same way as a decent CD player (with a
well made CD) p***es all over any vinyl system ever made. The difference
is any fool can tell if a watch is accurate or not. There can be no
argument there.

--
*How about "never"? Is "never" good for you?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 28/01/2011 20:41, David Looser wrote:
"Keith wrote

No, I'm not buying that - in the UK people will buy stuff at any price and
will put up with 'because we can' price hikes without a murmur.

Do they? not in my experience they don't!

Volvo and
BMW are just two car makers that told their dealer network 'don't discount
your cars, you don't need to in the UK'.

I don't beleive you, can you provide evidence for that claim?

As to watches, I have bought 8 (eight) Rolexes in my time; the only one
remaining is my son's Submariner, I wear Timex these days. Context is
everything - back then they were not 'expensive' for me....

It's only a watch. There are plenty of excellent watches that cost a
fraction of the price of a Rolex, so why buy one (unless it's to show off
your wealth).


Other reasons include perceived quality of engineering, looks,
comfort/fit, investment and (I think this is the most significant)
because you can. It's just a life opportunity after all so why forgo the
experience? That experience needn't include status, but if you're really
worried about status David buy a replica.

I've been hanging around airports a lot recently and the walks between
terminals are utterly plastered with timepiece-bling (and investment
banking) with price tags that would, I suspect, cover several cooking
Rolexi.

Rob

On 29/01/2011 10:37, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Your understanding of the 'Rolex thing' is on a par with your
understanding of 'high end' vinyl replay.

Rather a good comparison. A much cheaper watch can tell the time as well
if not better than a Rolex. In the same way as a decent CD player (with a
well made CD) p***es all over any vinyl system ever made. The difference
is any fool can tell if a watch is accurate or not. There can be no
argument there.

Any fool with an FM radio. DAB and satellite listeners only have a vague
idea of the time.
It's amusing to ask a few people the time. Those with digital watches
are usually least accurate.
At least the mechanical ones are usually set from an accurate source and
wound up each time they are used,
so it doesn't matter if they keep 'Rolex Time' (a phrase used by a
friend who is a watch dealer.)

--
Eiron.

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"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote

No, I'm not buying that - in the UK people will buy stuff at any price
and
will put up with 'because we can' price hikes without a murmur.

Do they? not in my experience they don't!


Yes they do, open your eyes.

And you are the expert in this are you?



Volvo and
BMW are just two car makers that told their dealer network 'don't
discount
your cars, you don't need to in the UK'.

I don't beleive you,


I couldn't care less about that - I have never posted anything here that
I didn't believe was true.

I didn't say you didn't believe it, I said I didn't.


And I said I couldn't care less.


I note you can offer no
evidence, were you told it by a bloke at the pub or read it in a tabloid
newspaper?


Unlikely, I don't do either....





snip

Your understanding of the 'Rolex thing' is on a par with your
understanding of 'high end' vinyl replay.

My understanding of the "Rolex thing" is that it's about status and
wealth, do you dispute that?


'Fraid so....




Yes, where there is no choice you have no choice; where the gullibility
comes in is where there is choice and the punter gets 'sold'

And you know all about that do you?


What does that mean? Sounds a bit snotty to me....

Only copying your own tone back to you. What is your whole "gullible
Brits" thing if not snottiness on your part?


When US Dollars = Euros = Pounds Sterling I say the gullible Brits are being
taken to the cleaners. Happens all the time - sorry if you think that sounds
snotty