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Why don't you telephone John Gilby and advise him
to use a Roland keyboard instead, Arny?

He might not like the touch of the keyboard. He surely
knows what exists and what he wants.

I am sure you could get him a good deal
from Walmart.

Iain's ignorance of the US professional audio market
demonstrated yet again. WalMart is far from being a
Roland dealer.

Since when has any knowledge of the 'US professional
audio market' been a requirement or even a legitimate
expectation of any poster to this *UK recreational*
newsgroup?

When they pretend they have expertise but post total ********.


If you are referring to Iain, why do you doubt he has the expertise? His
highly detailed and fact-rich responses here go far beyond (and are too
quick for) the usual 'Googlemeister' BS we see from a certain quarter...??

Almost all of the recording industry 'lantern swinging' (memoirs) we see
here goes over my head but I do find quite a lot of it quite interesting.

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Keith G wrote:
When they pretend they have expertise but post total ********.


If you are referring to Iain, why do you doubt he has the expertise? His
highly detailed and fact-rich responses here go far beyond (and are too
quick for) the usual 'Googlemeister' BS we see from a certain
quarter...??

No one could ever accuse Iain of not having a high opinion of himself - by
his posts, at least. ;-)

--
*Dance like nobody's watching.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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Keith G wrote:
When they pretend they have expertise but post total ********.


If you are referring to Iain, why do you doubt he has the expertise? His
highly detailed and fact-rich responses here go far beyond (and are too
quick for) the usual 'Googlemeister' BS we see from a certain
quarter...??

No one could ever accuse Iain of not having a high opinion of himself - by
his posts, at least. ;-)


That's not quite the same as expressing disbelief in what he posts, is it?

FWIW, I don't think *anyone* here goes out of their way to post anything
they didn't know for certain or at least didn't believe to be the truth and
it's been a good long time since we saw the word 'liar' being hurled about
in here.

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"Keith G"

No one could ever accuse Iain of not having a high opinion of himself -
by
his posts, at least. ;-)

** The arrogant fool is a total egomaniac.


That's not quite the same as expressing disbelief in what he posts, is it?

** The fool is a pseudo technical nincompoop.

The problem is YOU have no way of telling.


FWIW, I don't think *anyone* here goes out of their way to post anything
they didn't know for certain or at least didn't believe to be the truth
and it's been a good long time since we saw the word 'liar' being hurled
about in here.

** ROTFLMAO !!

Nearly EVERYONE here constantly posts their ignorant, emotional OPINIONS
as IF they are facts.

Presenting opinion as fact is both aggressive and more than a little crazy.

Just like Iain.


..... Phil

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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message


Why don't you telephone John Gilby and advise him
to use a Roland keyboard instead, Arny?

He might not like the touch of the keyboard. He surely
knows what exists and what he wants.

I am sure you could get him a good deal
from Walmart.

Iain's ignorance of the US professional audio market
demonstrated yet again. WalMart is far from being a
Roland dealer.

Since when has any knowledge of the 'US professional
audio market' been a requirement or even a legitimate
expectation of any poster to this *UK recreational*
newsgroup?

When they pretend they have expertise but post total ********.


If you are referring to Iain, why do you doubt he has the expertise?



Morning Keith.

Two things here.

It is difficult for our amateur church recordist to
come to terms with the fact that there are people
out there who do the job professionally (with formal
training and a lifetime of experience far greater than
his own) and that his church activities are worlds away
from "real" professional commercial recording.

Working as a church volunteer is highly commendable
in itself, so why try to make it into something which it is
not? To anyone who sings in Arny's choir, the recordings
are of "internal" interest. To anyone else, particular someone
who is musical or knows something about recording they
are dismal beyond words:-(

Most people of my acquaintance who have heard "Domine"
stare blankly in disbelief.

The other point is that it must be very difficult indeed to take
part in a British (or Australian) group, while having no concept
of their humour. In all probabiluty, Arny could not see that I
was pulling his chain re Roland/Bosendorfer/Walmart. Over on
the Oz group, they had him running round in circles, and on RAO
the excellent (and *very* English) John Atkinson, eloquent,
intellectual, talented producer, fine musician, skilled engineer,
respected journalist and magazine editor, had Arny changing
between dunce and clown cap with remarkable rapidity.

Arny has taken exception to amost everyone whom I hold in
high regard appearing on the groups to which he has access,
so I am flattered to be on his list:-) Jenn Martin is a very good
example - teacher, composer, arranger, musician, charming
lady and very capable sound recordist (in a very modest and
endearing way:-) Arny's exchanges with her make interesting
reading.

Almost all of the recording industry 'lantern swinging' (memoirs) we see
here goes over my head but I do find quite a lot of it quite interesting.


The "good old days" were in many ways more eventful and interesting.
There were far more "characters" in the business than there are now,
and you found yourself flying by the seat of your pants much more
so than you do these days. Digital techniques, editing in particular,
have made things quicker and much easier. I still keep a 2"
analogue tape editing block on my desk to remind me:-)


Iain

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"Phil Allison" wrote in message


"Keith G"

No one could ever accuse Iain of not having a high
opinion of himself - by
his posts, at least. ;-)

** The arrogant fool is a total egomaniac.

That's not quite the same as expressing disbelief in
what he posts, is it?

** The fool is a pseudo technical nincompoop.

The problem is YOU have no way of telling.

Agreed.

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"Keith G" wrote in message


If you are referring to Iain, why do you doubt he has the
expertise?

Because I've been reading his posts for several years.

And, I've been reading your posts for several years more and know that you
lack what it takes to make valid judgements in this area.

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Iain Churches wrote:
It is difficult for our amateur church recordist to
come to terms with the fact that there are people
out there who do the job professionally (with formal
training and a lifetime of experience far greater than
his own) and that his church activities are worlds away
from "real" professional commercial recording.

But then you judge everything by your own very narrow experience. To the
extent of 'telling' pros in other branches of the industry how they should
be doing their jobs. All of which simply shows tunnel vision.

Just how one particular branch of the industry has arrived at a way of
working doesn't make it necessarily the best way for everyone. It just
works for them. And if you'd taken any real interest in all those tours of
other facilities you claim to have been on, you'd have observed and
learned.

--
*Do they ever shut up on your planet?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message


If you are referring to Iain, why do you doubt he has the
expertise?

Because I've been reading his posts for several years.

And, I've been reading your posts for several years more and know that you
lack what it takes to make valid judgements in this area.


Don't make the mistake of believing a lifetime's experience (real or
imagined) of 'practical audio' and/or a degree of technical 'knowledge' are
any substitute for common sense and good instincts....

;-)


P.S. Note I don't subscribe/post to any of the 'pro', 'technical' or 'high
end' audio groups.

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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote


Since when has any knowledge of the 'US professional
audio market' been a requirement or even a legitimate
expectation of any poster to this *UK recreational*
newsgroup?

When they pretend they have expertise but post total ********.


If you are referring to Iain, why do you doubt he has the expertise?



Morning Keith.



Afternoon Iain!



Two things here.

It is difficult for our amateur church recordist to
come to terms with the fact that there are people
out there who do the job professionally (with formal
training and a lifetime of experience far greater than
his own) and that his church activities are worlds away
from "real" professional commercial recording.

sneep


I think it's to Arny's credit that he has so steadfastly 'walked the walk'
as he puts it for so long as a volunteer but it's my experience in life that
a ton of 'volunteer' doesn't make an ounce of the real thing in the
professional world.

Mind you, that said in light of recent events, my fairly low opinion of even
well-meaning 'experts' has only been reinforced!



The other point is that it must be very difficult indeed to take
part in a British (or Australian) group, while having no concept
of their humour. In all probabiluty, Arny could not see that I
was pulling his chain re Roland/Bosendorfer/Walmart. Over on
the Oz group, they had him running round in circles, and on RAO
the excellent (and *very* English) John Atkinson, eloquent,
intellectual, talented producer, fine musician, skilled engineer,
respected journalist and magazine editor, had Arny changing
between dunce and clown cap with remarkable rapidity.


It's a fact that Yanks don't do 'irony'! I've lost count of the number of
times my little attempts at humour appear to have gone right over his head!




Almost all of the recording industry 'lantern swinging' (memoirs) we see
here goes over my head but I do find quite a lot of it quite interesting.


The "good old days" were in many ways more eventful and interesting.
There were far more "characters" in the business than there are now,
and you found yourself flying by the seat of your pants much more
so than you do these days. Digital techniques, editing in particular,
have made things quicker and much easier. I still keep a 2"
analogue tape editing block on my desk to remind me:-)


One day Joe Ordinaire will wake up to the fact that 'digital' has done him
no real favours - especially when it comes to music.