On 24/02/2011 20:18, hunter wrote:
On 24/02/2011 18:45, UnsteadyKen wrote:
hunter said...

Doh, look at the header, the original post was done using windows mail.

Doh, Look at wiki.

"Windows Mail is an e-mail and newsgroup client included in Windows
Vista"

As the thread was originated by Keith because he was having
difficulties posting to the group and, as you so kindly point out; was
posted with Windows Mail; I think we can safely assume that he is using
it as a newsgroup client.

I like a good argument, this isn't one.

So stay out of my threads in future then.

You haven't started any threads here.
Why don't you post an original thought about audio?

--
Eiron.

"Keith G" wrote in message


The purpose of my post wasn't to complain about
newsreaders (or whatever) but, seeing as I already had
the image on my webpage for other purposes, to post a
'heads up' showing these dinky little computers which,
IME, make superb little music and cinema centres. They
are so small they can be clipped on the back of the
monitor, as in this second, 'projected' screenshot:
http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...creenshot2.JPG

Personally, for navigating music, picture and video files
I can't be doing with anything less than a full PC
display, however small and a proper keyboard and mouse -
which you will notice on the Revo are both *wireless*.
There are other makes and models like:

Acer Aspire Revo R3700 Desktop

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/236579



Basically netbooks in micro-desktop drag with no screen. They definately
have a place as modern desktops are immensely overpowered for what most of
us do most of the time.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message


The purpose of my post wasn't to complain about
newsreaders (or whatever) but, seeing as I already had
the image on my webpage for other purposes, to post a
'heads up' showing these dinky little computers which,
IME, make superb little music and cinema centres. They
are so small they can be clipped on the back of the
monitor, as in this second, 'projected' screenshot:
http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...creenshot2.JPG

Personally, for navigating music, picture and video files
I can't be doing with anything less than a full PC
display, however small and a proper keyboard and mouse -
which you will notice on the Revo are both *wireless*.
There are other makes and models like:

Acer Aspire Revo R3700 Desktop

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/236579



Basically netbooks in micro-desktop drag with no screen.


Yep, but the Revo R3610 (?) comes with wireless keyboard and mouse. If you
are squeezing one in (see link below) you don't need another screen, you
need a VGA switch (see pic).


They definately
have a place as modern desktops are immensely overpowered for what most of
us do most of the time.


And *oversized* - see my Revo No 2 (video processing and sound recording
station) next to my 'Blu-ray machine' he

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/Revo2.JPG


Note that it isn't much bigger than the 2TB hard drive hiding behind it!

(Don't mind the dust - I don't!! ;-)

On 23/02/2011 22:03, Keith G wrote:


Sodding Outlook is vetting my posts! Probably wouldn't let me append
this one because I'm bragging a little bit! :-)



"Keith G" wrote


Anyway, that's yer lot - my (digital) projector's burning away...

;-)


And here's a shot of the Acer Revo computer's screensaver:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...Screenshot.JPG

(Note the turntable below centre for scale - 6' wide image in my room!)


Cracking little machines - perfect for WMP, iPlayer, You Tube &c. but I
believe the spec of the latest ones whilst still ample is down on the two I
have got and there's a new 'multimedia' model out (Acer Revo 100) which I
know nothing about other than the spec is up but it is twice the price.
Google cures all ills...

:-)


Aye, makes my Mac Mini look overpriced if you don't need much more than
a media server.

I suspect I know the answer to this, but what do you do for a remote?

Rob

"Keith G" wrote in message


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

"Keith G" wrote in message


Personally, for navigating music, picture and video
files I can't be doing with anything less than a full PC
display, however small and a proper keyboard and mouse -
which you will notice on the Revo are both *wireless*.
There are other makes and models like:

Acer Aspire Revo R3700 Desktop

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/236579

Basically netbooks in micro-desktop drag with no screen.

Yep, but the Revo R3610 (?) comes with wireless keyboard
and mouse. If you are squeezing one in (see link below)
you don't need another screen, you need a VGA switch (see
pic).

Wireless mice and keyboards work with anything that has a USB port. The
current wireless mouse/keyboard USB interface is smaller than a typical
flash drive. Way smaller.

It seems to me that having a micro-desktop and a desktop sharing a screen
misses a lot of the advantage of the micro-desktop which is the small
footprint.

It is no big secret that most modern desktops are big empty boxes. I've been
building desktops with full power and complement of drives (even RAID
arrays!) in this case for several years:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-092-_-Product

It sits under a LCD monitor and the feet of the monitor sit near its
corners. IOW, negligable additional footprint as compared to anything
smaller.

This case works with 100% standard system boards, add-on boards, CPUs, heat
sinks and drives. OK, my RAID machines have no floppy drive. ;-)

Floppy drives, what are those? ;-)

In article ,
hunter wrote:
On 24/02/2011 14:09, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

You actually know the difference? There's a surprise.

I'm actually quite proud I don't.

Of course you don't, because you're a silly, silly little twerp.

Obviously a vinyl fan with a stuck needle. Hiding behind a nom de plume.

--
*If I worked as much as others, I would do as little as they *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Rob" wrote in message
b.com...
On 23/02/2011 22:03, Keith G wrote:


And here's a shot of the Acer Revo computer's screensaver:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...Screenshot.JPG

(Note the turntable below centre for scale - 6' wide image in my room!)


Cracking little machines - perfect for WMP, iPlayer, You Tube &c. but I
believe the spec of the latest ones whilst still ample is down on the two
I
have got and there's a new 'multimedia' model out (Acer Revo 100) which I
know nothing about other than the spec is up but it is twice the price.
Google cures all ills...

:-)


Aye, makes my Mac Mini look overpriced if you don't need much more than a
media server.

I suspect I know the answer to this, but what do you do for a remote?


I don't use one myself other than when I'm using the Blu-ray player: I
prefer the mouse and clicking along the progress bar in WMP for video
recordings and the BBC and ITV online players. Tbh, I never use the 'cinema'
Revo for playing music:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/RevoPJshot.JPG


But they are easy enough online to find if you Google 'remote control for
pc':

Here's a good page where you will see most of them are USB:

http://www.pcremotecontrol.com/solutions/solutions.htm

Like this one which looks quite dinky:

http://www.snapstream.com/products/fireflymini/

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Keith G" wrote


Yep, but the Revo R3610 (?) comes with wireless keyboard
and mouse. If you are squeezing one in (see link below)
you don't need another screen, you need a VGA switch (see
pic).

Wireless mice and keyboards work with anything that has a USB port. The
current wireless mouse/keyboard USB interface is smaller than a typical
flash drive. Way smaller.

It seems to me that having a micro-desktop and a desktop sharing a screen
misses a lot of the advantage of the micro-desktop which is the small
footprint.


A small footprint is a bonus but was not a requirement for me. The Revo is
one of three computers that I switch between (according to what I am doing)
by snapping the VGA switch:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/3Computers.JPG


The idea was to transfer the workload and contents of the Acer L100 (left of
monitor, top of audio stack) to the Revo and retire the L100 but it has been
behaving so well lately I have not done this. It is eay to find people
online whining that the L100s overheat but mine is on all day and has never
had any such problem. I suspect they have had them in the upright position,
standing them on the air intake end!

OTOH, it is easy to lock it up if you (me) overload it with too many tasks -
hence the mutiple computers. Some of my jobs take over an hour to complete -
no good having the machine crash 95% of the way in!



It is no big secret that most modern desktops are big empty boxes. I've
been building desktops with full power and complement of drives (even RAID
arrays!) in this case for several years:


I've built a number myself (including the black X-Qpack on the right in the
pic) but the idea of trapping large amounts of data in large boxes no longer
appeals to me. Much better to have the mobility and relative safety of a
number of USB hard drives.

With some file sizes approaching 50 Gig it's always easy to fill up any size
hard disk in a very short time!

On 25/02/2011 15:59, Keith G wrote:

"Rob" wrote in message
b.com...
On 23/02/2011 22:03, Keith G wrote:


And here's a shot of the Acer Revo computer's screensaver:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...Screenshot.JPG

(Note the turntable below centre for scale - 6' wide image in my room!)


Cracking little machines - perfect for WMP, iPlayer, You Tube &c. but I
believe the spec of the latest ones whilst still ample is down on the
two I
have got and there's a new 'multimedia' model out (Acer Revo 100)
which I
know nothing about other than the spec is up but it is twice the price.
Google cures all ills...

:-)


Aye, makes my Mac Mini look overpriced if you don't need much more
than a media server.

I suspect I know the answer to this, but what do you do for a remote?


I don't use one myself other than when I'm using the Blu-ray player: I
prefer the mouse and clicking along the progress bar in WMP for video
recordings and the BBC and ITV online players. Tbh, I never use the
'cinema' Revo for playing music:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/RevoPJshot.JPG


But they are easy enough online to find if you Google 'remote control
for pc':

Here's a good page where you will see most of them are USB:

http://www.pcremotecontrol.com/solutions/solutions.htm

Like this one which looks quite dinky:

http://www.snapstream.com/products/fireflymini/



Yes, I thought you'd forsake. I've actually got one of those add on ones
for a project PC I was building, but could never get it to work
reliably. The Mac one is typically sparse:

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC...co=MTY3ODQ5OTY

And I use an iPhone or iPad for most things using a remote app:

http://www.apple.com/itunes/remote/

All go :-)

Rob