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Keith G[_2_] March 7th 11 04:03 PM

And another one!
 

"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote


But 'complimented to death' by your visitors. Which merely shows
they're
not picky and or lack experience of such things.


Your crystal ball needs a polish, you getting it all wrong again - most
of
the people who have heard the speakers here and complimented them are
lifelong 'audio enthusiasts':

Doesn't mean a thing as you are not getting your visitors objective
response. Enthusiasm is catching and rapidly leads to "group-think".
Listening is an active process, in which one's own beliefs and emotions
matter at least as much as the sound-waves impinging on the eardrums.



WTF is that all about?


Psychology, but you wouldn't understand.



Maybe not (and maybe I do* ;-) but your big mistake is, like someone else
here, you so think that you know everything you make wild, arrogant
presumptions.

You don't even get off the starting block on the right foot! See my other
post - trust that I am quite able to solicit useful opinions without
colouring my subjects responses or when I suspect the subject's response is
'colored' I am quite able to discard the opinion given.

Get this: When I ask an opinion of someone it is almost always *after the
fact*; I do not look to others to make decisions for me. If I try a number
of similar hifi componenets and make comparisons it is to get the
*experience* of them - not as one lame comment here recently stated 'because
I wasn't satisfied'..!!

For instance, I can speak with some experience of Chinese valve amps, for
example, as I have owned and used two of them - whilst I suspect some of
those posters who had a lot to say in blanket condemnation of them a while
back here had probably not been within a short bus ride of one!


*Or my partner who has a Psychology MA probably would be able to! ;-)



Keith G[_2_] March 7th 11 04:05 PM

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Turntables, carts and arms are easier to fiddle with and make a
difference than CD players or radio receivers, in my book. Feel free
to
disagree.

Of course. Fiddling with all of those will likely make them sound worse
than when correctly set up.



Typical meaningless (and erroneous) ****y response noted.


Thanks for showing yet again you have no concept of decent sound
reproduction.




So weird....



Rob[_5_] March 7th 11 04:11 PM

And another one!
 
On 07/03/2011 16:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
Keith wrote:
Turntables, carts and arms are easier to fiddle with and make a
difference than CD players or radio receivers, in my book. Feel free to
disagree.

Of course. Fiddling with all of those will likely make them sound worse
than when correctly set up.



Typical meaningless (and erroneous) ****y response noted.


Thanks for showing yet again you have no concept of decent sound
reproduction.


Everybody has a concept of decent sound reproduction - even you. That is
the point.

Rob

Keith G[_2_] March 7th 11 04:14 PM

And another one!
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
David Looser wrote:
The pinpoint imaging you get from these single driver speakers and the
exceptional clarity means these they are completely transparent and
absolutely perfect for my second cinema setup with the words coming
directly from the actor's mouths


Film sound mixers gave up trying to pan an actors voice in an attempt to
match their visual position years ago. Almost all dialogue (except for
that from off-screen actors) is simply dumped into the centre channel.
The illusion that the words are "coming from the actors mouths" is one
created in the listeners brain by the learned association of the sight
of moving lips with the sound of the speaker's voice.


Keith was told this ages ago. But it obviously didn't suit his ideas.



Told? Who by - you..???

News for you, matey: You have told me *nothing*!

(I blame Iain - his, overly polite responses to your ****y little posts have
puffed you up too much!!)



Keith G[_2_] March 7th 11 04:19 PM

And another one!
 

"Rob" wrote in message
b.com...
On 07/03/2011 16:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
Keith wrote:
Turntables, carts and arms are easier to fiddle with and make a
difference than CD players or radio receivers, in my book. Feel free
to
disagree.

Of course. Fiddling with all of those will likely make them sound worse
than when correctly set up.



Typical meaningless (and erroneous) ****y response noted.


Thanks for showing yet again you have no concept of decent sound
reproduction.


Everybody has a concept of decent sound reproduction - even you. That is
the point.



His problem he has no idea (and probably little or no real experience) -
when does a turntable *ever* come to you properly set up? It's almost a
certainty that no eBay or secondhand stuff will be ready to play and I have
even had to go to the local hifi shop more than once to sort out turntable
problems on brand new kit!




Keith G[_2_] March 7th 11 04:19 PM

And another one!
 

"Rob" wrote in message
b.com...
On 07/03/2011 16:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
Keith wrote:
Turntables, carts and arms are easier to fiddle with and make a
difference than CD players or radio receivers, in my book. Feel free
to
disagree.

Of course. Fiddling with all of those will likely make them sound worse
than when correctly set up.



Typical meaningless (and erroneous) ****y response noted.


Thanks for showing yet again you have no concept of decent sound
reproduction.


Everybody has a concept of decent sound reproduction - even you. That is
the point.



His problem he has no idea (and probably little or no real experience) -
when does a turntable *ever* come to you properly set up? It's almost a
certainty that no eBay or secondhand stuff will be ready to play and I have
even had to go to the local hifi shop more than once to sort out turntable
problems on brand new kit!




Jim Lesurf[_2_] March 7th 11 04:37 PM

And another one!
 
In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article , Keith G
wrote:
As I said, doing the layout manually is part of the fun. PC board
design programmes not. And I have my own equipment for producing
them. Not a 'room' though. Sounds like you've never actually made
such a thing. ;-)



Sounds like you are calling Iain a *liar* with almost every response
you make to his posts without actually using the word...??


You feel that too? Not surprising given how much he contradicts himself.


I must admit I have recently become more and more puzzled by the way he
keeps misinterpreting/misrepresenting some of the things I've said - even
when both here and in emails between us I've pointed out what I actually
wrote and meant are not in accord with what he then presents as my meaning.

Slainte,

Jim

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Arny Krueger March 7th 11 04:37 PM

And another one!
 
"Keith G" wrote in message

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in
message ...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
As I said, doing the layout manually is part of the
fun. PC board design programmes not. And I have my own
equipment for producing them. Not a 'room' though.
Sounds like you've never actually made such a thing.
;-)



Sounds like you are calling Iain a *liar* with almost
every response you make to his posts without actually
using the word...??


You feel that too? Not surprising given how much he
contradicts himself.


Yes I feel it sounds like you are calling Iain a *liar*
with almost every response you make to his posts without
actually using the word.


Lying implies that the liar knows better than what he says.

I don't think that Iain is lying, strictly speaking.

FWIW, I believe anybody in this ng knowingly posts
falsehoods - and that includes Iain.


Interesting sentence. Freudian half-slip?




Arny Krueger March 7th 11 04:40 PM

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"Keith G" wrote in message


Turntables, carts and arms are easier to fiddle with and
make a difference than CD players or radio receivers, in
my book. Feel free to disagree.


Beleive it or not, there is more to audio than amplifiers and music players.

I'm thinking of speakers and rooms, of course.

And then there are those of us who make recordings of live music in actual
music venues...



Keith G[_2_] March 7th 11 04:49 PM

And another one!
 

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Keith G" wrote in message

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in
message ...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
As I said, doing the layout manually is part of the
fun. PC board design programmes not. And I have my own
equipment for producing them. Not a 'room' though.
Sounds like you've never actually made such a thing.
;-)


Sounds like you are calling Iain a *liar* with almost
every response you make to his posts without actually
using the word...??

You feel that too? Not surprising given how much he
contradicts himself.


Yes I feel it sounds like you are calling Iain a *liar*
with almost every response you make to his posts without
actually using the word.


Lying implies that the liar knows better than what he says.

I don't think that Iain is lying, strictly speaking.

FWIW, I believe anybody in this ng knowingly posts
falsehoods - and that includes Iain.


Interesting sentence. Freudian half-slip?



No idea what you mean by that, but I means I give everyone here the benefit
of the doubt and that even includes your deliberate vagueness, side-stepping
and inability to give a straight answer to a straight question. Whether or
not you believe what I say is a problem for you to solve....





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