An interesting concept
 

In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...

Not wishing to start an argument but over at the cathedral at Ely where
we have to go to from time to time i have seen quite a few recordings
done there with no control room just a man with a very good pair of
phones ...

Yes or course.

There is an excellent series of recordings (made on a Nagra IV
with an pair of Neumann 84s) of early keyboard instruments in the
collection at the V&A. These recordings, like the organ recordings
made at Paisley Abbey at around the same time were monitored on
nothing more illustrious than a pair Beyer DT100 headphones.

Now make the average pop record on a Nagra IV. With a simple stereo pair.

Or indeed pretty well any classical recording you'd use a studio for.

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An interesting concept
 

In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
Not wishing to start an argument but over at the cathedral at Ely
where we have to go to from time to time i have seen quite a few
recordings done there with no control room just a man with a very
good pair of phones ...

More chance if recording something straightforward and fundamentally
self balanced. As I'd hope something meant to be heard direct by the
public would be.

Totally different with pop stuff.

Why? The studio which is the subject of this thread will be doing
overdubs for "pop stuff" (sic:-) - strings and brass. A producer who
takes a string overdub project to a church will expect a classical
approach. So it is not different at all:-)

Have it your own way, Iain. You've invented something no-one has ever
thought of before. Using cans only for monitoring.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

An interesting concept
 

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...

Iain wrote
It takes a considerably more than a termination of contract payment
to set up a classical recordiing studio Check out the price tag of an
AWS 948 console from SSL, or a Lawo mc2 90.

Well would he be buying a new one, no good used around?..
--
Tony Sayer

It's tempting.
He was offered a Neve Capricorn (similar to the one that
had been at Abbey Road).

But buying a used console can be problematic. Firstly, it is diffícult
to find a model still in production (say 3-5 years old for which spares
are readily available) The installation of a used console can be
followed by weeks of fault and bug tracing:-) Few studios these
days have in-house technical maintenance so whom do you turn to
for fast and reliable service?

A new console, (if there is room for it in the budget) has considerable
advantages. One can order special features to suit the facility.
Transport and delivery are the responsibility of the local agent, who looks
after the installation and commisssioning on a turnkey basis (often
completed in a working week) At the time of purchase one can negotiate
a service and spares deal (which if you are lucky, the maufacturer will
include in the basic price) and a warranty/support plan which runs the
length of the lease or purchase period, or even beyond. And, as a
small extra bonus the manufacturer offers excellent PR and promotion
via website and advertising.

Iain

An interesting concept
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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Have it your own way, Iain. You've invented something no-one has ever
thought of before. Using cans only for monitoring.

How can you make so many fundamental errors in two short sentences?
I have invented nothing, it was not even my idea:-) Nowhere in the
thread have I claimed it is an original concept either.

But I am convinced that it is a very good one.
I will send you a link Dave to the first pilot recording.
Hopefully you wear a small hat:-)

Iain

An interesting concept
 

In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
A new console, (if there is room for it in the budget) has considerable
advantages. One can order special features to suit the facility.
Transport and delivery are the responsibility of the local agent, who looks
after the installation and commisssioning on a turnkey basis (often
completed in a working week) At the time of purchase one can negotiate
a service and spares deal (which if you are lucky, the maufacturer will
include in the basic price) and a warranty/support plan which runs the
length of the lease or purchase period, or even beyond. And, as a
small extra bonus the manufacturer offers excellent PR and promotion
via website and advertising.

And as you said adds considerably to the budget which will have to be
passed on to the client.

But surely you'd do better just using that Nagra 4 and pair of KM84s?
Since they give you that perfect result?

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*If at first you do succeed, try not to look too astonished.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

An interesting concept
 

In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
Have it your own way, Iain. You've invented something no-one has ever
thought of before. Using cans only for monitoring.

How can you make so many fundamental errors in two short sentences?
I have invented nothing, it was not even my idea:-) Nowhere in the
thread have I claimed it is an original concept either.

Am I mistaken in saying you regard it as a fundamental advantage for this
facility? You certainly have spent a lot of time giving the advantages as
you see them. Your idea or not. Since the owner isn't posting here, I'm
replying to you who is.

But I am convinced that it is a very good one.
I will send you a link Dave to the first pilot recording.
Hopefully you wear a small hat:-)

The interesting thing to me is if this concept gains acceptance and the
facility gets lots of work as a consequence. And not just initial bookings
as a novelty.

And for that, only time will tell.

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*Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

An interesting concept
 

In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:

The interesting thing to me is if this concept gains acceptance and the
facility gets lots of work as a consequence. And not just initial
bookings as a novelty.

And for that, only time will tell.

I can't really comment on the wisdom (or not) of the approach Iain has
outlined. However I must confess that I have my doubts that the recording
biz only ever adopts good ideas in terms of sound quality! Sadly. So it may
gain "acceptance" and "get lots of work", either way.

Jim

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