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Iain Churches[_2_] March 1st 17 01:34 PM

Baroque Musical Chairs
 
Brian. The orchestra is based in the UK but funded by
an EU cultural foundation. When Britain leaves the EU, to
qualify for continued funding, the orchestra will need to
be based in an EU country. Holland is a very good choice.
Our loss is very much their gain.

Iain

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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Well did they say why?
I'd not have thought this kind of thing would be affected much by brexit
or anything else. Sounds more like somebody made tyhem an offer.
Nothing then to stop some enterprising UK person with deep pockets from
starting up a rival.

Brian

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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.

The British do not have the strong symphonic
tradition of some other Western countries,
but we *do* have some of the world's finest
baroque composers: Thomas Arne, Henry Purcel,
Orlando Gibbons, William Byrd, and of course
Handel, who became a British national by act of
parliament, at the wish of George 1st in 1727.

The fact that Europe's finest, youngest baroque
orchestra has made its home in the UK for the
past 30 years has contributed enormously in
bringing our musical heritage to a wider
British audience.

After the orchestra relocates, British players
will no longer be eligible for membership
nor British students for participation in the
training which bridges the important gap
between the conservatory of music and
the world of the professional musician.

It looks as if, in this particular game of musical
chairs,when the next chair is taken away it will
be the British musician who is left without a seat.

That's very sad.

Iain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgtRjiywS20











Iain Churches[_2_] March 1st 17 01:34 PM

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"Johan Helsingius" wrote in message
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I have worked on several recording projects in Holland
with orchestral players from Hilversum. We recorded at
a very fine church near Lunen.


Lunen probably had less of an issue with background noise
compared to Amsterdam... :)


It was not the the traffic that bothered us during the day,
but the sparrows. Unbelievably loud!

So, we recorded at night,
went for bicycle rides and ate Rookworst
with Ivanabitch during the day:-)

Great fun!

Iain





Johan Helsingius March 2nd 17 06:58 AM

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It was not the the traffic that bothered us during the day,
but the sparrows. Unbelievably loud!


Heh, yes. Here in Amsterdam we have the parakeets (started out
with a squatter breeding hundreds of them in an empty attic in
the 70's - when he got evicted he just released them). Annoyingly
loud, and not really songbirds...

So, we recorded at night,
went for bicycle rides and ate Rookworst
with Ivanabitch during the day:-)


Sounds perfect :)

Julf



Eiron[_3_] March 2nd 17 09:07 AM

Baroque Musical Chairs
 
On 01/03/2017 14:34, Iain Churches wrote:
"Johan Helsingius" wrote in message
...
I have worked on several recording projects in Holland
with orchestral players from Hilversum. We recorded at
a very fine church near Lunen.


Lunen probably had less of an issue with background noise
compared to Amsterdam... :)


It was not the the traffic that bothered us during the day,
but the sparrows. Unbelievably loud!

So, we recorded at night,
went for bicycle rides and ate Rookworst
with Ivanabitch during the day:-)


What about the bats in the belfry?
At 96k or SACD sampling rates you will have recorded a lot of squeaking.

--
Eiron.


Iain Churches[_2_] March 2nd 17 11:43 AM

Baroque Musical Chairs
 

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 21:43:17 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.

The British do not have the strong symphonic
tradition of some other Western countries,
but we *do* have some of the world's finest
baroque composers: Thomas Arne, Henry Purcel,
Orlando Gibbons, William Byrd, and of course
Handel, who became a British national by act of
parliament, at the wish of George 1st in 1727.

The fact that Europe's finest, youngest baroque
orchestra has made its home in the UK for the
past 30 years has contributed enormously in
bringing our musical heritage to a wider
British audience.

After the orchestra relocates, British players
will no longer be eligible for membership
nor British students for participation in the
training which bridges the important gap
between the conservatory of music and
the world of the professional musician.

It looks as if, in this particular game of musical
chairs,when the next chair is taken away it will
be the British musician who is left without a seat.

That's very sad.

Iain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgtRjiywS20




This kind of thing is inevitable with Brexit. Musicians are ready to
travel and stand in at a moments notice - if a counter tenor is needed
tonight, he is needed tonight - not in three weeks when a working visa
can be arranged. This orchestra has done the right thing in moving to
a location that preserves its freedom of artistic choice.



I have a feeling this is just the thin end of a very thick wedge :-(

Iain



Dave Plowman (News) March 2nd 17 01:14 PM

Baroque Musical Chairs
 
In article ,
Johan Helsingius wrote:
It was not the the traffic that bothered us during the day,
but the sparrows. Unbelievably loud!


Heh, yes. Here in Amsterdam we have the parakeets (started out
with a squatter breeding hundreds of them in an empty attic in
the 70's - when he got evicted he just released them). Annoyingly
loud, and not really songbirds...


Loads of them in London too. Started somewhere near Hampton Court perhaps
25 years ago and have been spreading since, to all the many parks and
commons.

But hardly any sparrows now, sadly. I actually liked them when doing
speech recording for location drama. They masked other less acceptable
noises.

I'm not sure if the parakeets being able to live here now while sparrows
are much reduced is due to climate change?

So, we recorded at night,
went for bicycle rides and ate Rookworst
with Ivanabitch during the day:-)


Sounds perfect :)


Julf


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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Don Pearce[_3_] March 2nd 17 01:51 PM

Baroque Musical Chairs
 
On Thu, 02 Mar 2017 14:14:12 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

I'm not sure if the parakeets being able to live here now while sparrows
are much reduced is due to climate change?


I think the sparrows are gone because the insects have gone. I
remember in the 1970's if I went for a drive I always had a damp
chamois leather in the car. Every hour or so I would have to stop to
get all the splattered bugs off the windscreen. These days I can drive
for hours and nothing commits suicide on the front of my car.

I guess this is a combination of climate change and insecticides.

d

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Dave Plowman (News) March 2nd 17 02:08 PM

Baroque Musical Chairs
 
In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
I'm not sure if the parakeets being able to live here now while sparrows
are much reduced is due to climate change?


I think the sparrows are gone because the insects have gone. I
remember in the 1970's if I went for a drive I always had a damp
chamois leather in the car. Every hour or so I would have to stop to
get all the splattered bugs off the windscreen. These days I can drive
for hours and nothing commits suicide on the front of my car.


I guess this is a combination of climate change and insecticides.


They disappeared from round here near overnight. Or it seemed like that.
The only slight advantage being (apparently) a bigger selections of other
species of birds seen in the garden.

I miss their constant chirping. It's never quiet in London, and that was
nicer than the sounds of distant traffic and other man made things.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Woody[_4_] March 2nd 17 05:47 PM

Baroque Musical Chairs
 
More likely the abundance of grey squirrels and magpies that steal the
eggs out of the nests - and not just sparrows.



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Dave Plowman (News) March 3rd 17 12:09 AM

Baroque Musical Chairs
 
In article ,
Woody wrote:
More likely the abundance of grey squirrels and magpies that steal the
eggs out of the nests - and not just sparrows.


That wouldn't explain the sparrows round here disappearing so quickly.
I assumed it was some sort of virus or whatever. And if it were predators
stealing eggs, why are there so many pigeons?

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*When you get a bladder infection urine trouble.*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.


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