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It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.

The British do not have the strong symphonic
tradition of some other Western countries,
but we *do* have some of the world's finest
baroque composers: Thomas Arne, Henry Purcel,
Orlando Gibbons, William Byrd, and of course
Handel, who became a British national by act of
parliament, at the wish of George 1st in 1727.

The fact that Europe's finest, youngest baroque
orchestra has made its home in the UK for the
past 30 years has contributed enormously in
bringing our musical heritage to a wider
British audience.

After the orchestra relocates, British players
will no longer be eligible for membership
nor British students for participation in the
training which bridges the important gap
between the conservatory of music and
the world of the professional musician.

It looks as if, in this particular game of musical
chairs,when the next chair is taken away it will
be the British musician who is left without a seat.

That's very sad.

Iain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgtRjiywS20

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On 27-02-17 20:43, Iain Churches wrote:
It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.

Not if you live in Amsterdam...

Julf

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Johan Helsingius:
On 27-02-17 20:43, Iain Churches wrote:
It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.

Not if you live in Amsterdam...

Julf

Is it such a great loss ?

An extract from the letter announcing this:

"The Brexit vote has already had an impact on our fundraising efforts.
The current orchestra has no UK
members, but EUBO's administration is entirely British. With the UK
outside the EU and free movement to
and from the UK in all likelihood ended, EUBO's operation will become
seriously compromised, to say
nothing of our likely future access to EU and other funds."

If their are no UK members of the orchestra it seems kind of silly for
it to be based here.

MK

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On 28/02/2017 09:50, Michael Kellett wrote:
Johan Helsingius:
On 27-02-17 20:43, Iain Churches wrote:
It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.

Not if you live in Amsterdam...

Julf

Is it such a great loss ?

An extract from the letter announcing this:

"The Brexit vote has already had an impact on our fundraising efforts.
The current orchestra has no UK
members, but EUBO's administration is entirely British. With the UK
outside the EU and free movement to
and from the UK in all likelihood ended, EUBO's operation will become
seriously compromised, to say
nothing of our likely future access to EU and other funds."

If their are no UK members of the orchestra it seems kind of silly for
it to be based here.


Currently none, but now there is no incentive or opportunity for British
musicians to take part. Just part of the creeping cultural destruction
that Brexit is imposing on us.


--
Graeme Wall
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In article ,
Michael Kellett wrote:
Johan Helsingius:
On 27-02-17 20:43, Iain Churches wrote:
It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.

Not if you live in Amsterdam...

Julf

Is it such a great loss ?

An extract from the letter announcing this:

"The Brexit vote has already had an impact on our fundraising efforts.
The current orchestra has no UK
members, but EUBO's administration is entirely British. With the UK
outside the EU and free movement to
and from the UK in all likelihood ended, EUBO's operation will become
seriously compromised, to say
nothing of our likely future access to EU and other funds."

If their are no UK members of the orchestra it seems kind of silly for
it to be based here.

Based in Woodstock? Lots and lots of 'Baroque' musicians must live there.
;-)

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On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 21:43:17 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.

The British do not have the strong symphonic
tradition of some other Western countries,
but we *do* have some of the world's finest
baroque composers: Thomas Arne, Henry Purcel,
Orlando Gibbons, William Byrd, and of course
Handel, who became a British national by act of
parliament, at the wish of George 1st in 1727.

The fact that Europe's finest, youngest baroque
orchestra has made its home in the UK for the
past 30 years has contributed enormously in
bringing our musical heritage to a wider
British audience.

After the orchestra relocates, British players
will no longer be eligible for membership
nor British students for participation in the
training which bridges the important gap
between the conservatory of music and
the world of the professional musician.

It looks as if, in this particular game of musical
chairs,when the next chair is taken away it will
be the British musician who is left without a seat.

That's very sad.

Iain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgtRjiywS20




This kind of thing is inevitable with Brexit. Musicians are ready to
travel and stand in at a moments notice - if a counter tenor is needed
tonight, he is needed tonight - not in three weeks when a working visa
can be arranged. This orchestra has done the right thing in moving to
a location that preserves its freedom of artistic choice.

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Don Pearce said:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 21:43:17 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.
...
After the orchestra relocates, British players
will no longer be eligible for membership
nor British students for participation in the
training which bridges the important gap
between the conservatory of music and
the world of the professional musician.
...
That's very sad.

This kind of thing is inevitable with Brexit. Musicians are ready to
travel and stand in at a moments notice - if a counter tenor is needed
tonight, he is needed tonight - not in three weeks when a working visa
can be arranged. This orchestra has done the right thing in moving to
a location that preserves its freedom of artistic choice.

Yes, in the circumstances. But it's kind of a pity for anybody in the UK who
does care about such music, especially any students who might have spent
years of their life working towards getting a place in such an orchestra.
But, as you say, inevitable. Just one of the smaller reasons why I do not
have a good opinion of Brexit.


--
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"Graeme Wall" wrote in message
...
On 28/02/2017 09:50, Michael Kellett wrote:
Johan Helsingius:
On 27-02-17 20:43, Iain Churches wrote:
It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.
If their are no UK members of the orchestra it seems kind of silly for
it to be based here.


Currently none, but now there is no incentive or opportunity for British
musicians to take part. Just part of the creeping cultural destruction
that Brexit is imposing on us.

I agree totally.
Iain

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"Michael Kellett" wrote in message
...
Johan Helsingius:
On 27-02-17 20:43, Iain Churches wrote:
It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.

Not if you live in Amsterdam...

Julf

Is it such a great loss ?

An extract from the letter announcing this:

"The Brexit vote has already had an impact on our fundraising efforts.
The current orchestra has no UK
members, but EUBO's administration is entirely British. With the UK
outside the EU and free movement to
and from the UK in all likelihood ended, EUBO's operation will become
seriously compromised, to say
nothing of our likely future access to EU and other funds."

If their are no UK members of the orchestra it seems kind of silly for
it to be based here.

There would be UK members if they
passed the audition/selection board.

In the future there can be no UK members. period.
The singers are currently all from Clare College Cambridge.
That too will end.


Iain

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"Johan Helsingius" wrote in message
...
On 27-02-17 20:43, Iain Churches wrote:
It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.

Not if you live in Amsterdam...

How true:-)

Did you watch the broadcast from the link I posted.
Dutch TV AVRO did a very good job.
Anyone recognise the location?
Iain

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Michael Kellett wrote:
Johan Helsingius:
On 27-02-17 20:43, Iain Churches wrote:
It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.

Not if you live in Amsterdam...

Julf

Is it such a great loss ?

An extract from the letter announcing this:

"The Brexit vote has already had an impact on our fundraising efforts.
The current orchestra has no UK
members, but EUBO's administration is entirely British. With the UK
outside the EU and free movement to
and from the UK in all likelihood ended, EUBO's operation will become
seriously compromised, to say
nothing of our likely future access to EU and other funds."

If their are no UK members of the orchestra it seems kind of silly for
it to be based here.

Based in Woodstock? Lots and lots of 'Baroque' musicians must live there.
;-)

Actually, you are right, - they do. Woodstock is a 20 minute drive from
Oxford City centre. The Faculty of Music of Oxford University has one
of the largest and most active departments of music in British academia
with a worldwide reputation. Many fine musicians live in Oxford.

So the EUBO is very suitably located.
Amsterdam will suit even better, and the EU has promised
continued funding for such an important cultural organisation.

Iain

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On 28/02/2017 11:22, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Michael Kellett wrote:
Johan Helsingius:
On 27-02-17 20:43, Iain Churches wrote:
It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.

Not if you live in Amsterdam...

Julf

Is it such a great loss ?

An extract from the letter announcing this:

"The Brexit vote has already had an impact on our fundraising efforts.
The current orchestra has no UK
members, but EUBO's administration is entirely British. With the UK
outside the EU and free movement to
and from the UK in all likelihood ended, EUBO's operation will become
seriously compromised, to say
nothing of our likely future access to EU and other funds."

If their are no UK members of the orchestra it seems kind of silly for
it to be based here.

Based in Woodstock? Lots and lots of 'Baroque' musicians must live there.
;-)


Baroque and Roll you mean?

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On 28/02/2017 12:35, Iain Churches wrote:
"Johan Helsingius" wrote in message
...
On 27-02-17 20:43, Iain Churches wrote:
It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.

Not if you live in Amsterdam...

How true:-)

Did you watch the broadcast from the link I posted.
Dutch TV AVRO did a very good job.
Anyone recognise the location?
Iain




Couple of shaky bits at the start, I think the director must have lost
his place in the score :-)

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"Graeme Wall" wrote in message
...
On 28/02/2017 11:22, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Michael Kellett wrote:
Johan Helsingius:
On 27-02-17 20:43, Iain Churches wrote:
It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.

Not if you live in Amsterdam...

Julf

Is it such a great loss ?

An extract from the letter announcing this:

"The Brexit vote has already had an impact on our fundraising efforts.
The current orchestra has no UK
members, but EUBO's administration is entirely British. With the UK
outside the EU and free movement to
and from the UK in all likelihood ended, EUBO's operation will become
seriously compromised, to say
nothing of our likely future access to EU and other funds."

If their are no UK members of the orchestra it seems kind of silly for
it to be based here.

Based in Woodstock? Lots and lots of 'Baroque' musicians must live there.
;-)


Baroque and Roll you mean?

I am pretty surer that Thomas Arne would have appreciated
Jethro Tull. A flautist standing on one leg - who could
resist? :-)

Iain

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On 28/02/2017 13:59, Iain Churches wrote:
"Graeme Wall" wrote in message
...
On 28/02/2017 11:22, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Michael Kellett wrote:
Johan Helsingius:
On 27-02-17 20:43, Iain Churches wrote:
It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.

Not if you live in Amsterdam...

Julf

Is it such a great loss ?

An extract from the letter announcing this:

"The Brexit vote has already had an impact on our fundraising efforts.
The current orchestra has no UK
members, but EUBO's administration is entirely British. With the UK
outside the EU and free movement to
and from the UK in all likelihood ended, EUBO's operation will become
seriously compromised, to say
nothing of our likely future access to EU and other funds."

If their are no UK members of the orchestra it seems kind of silly for
it to be based here.

Based in Woodstock? Lots and lots of 'Baroque' musicians must live there.
;-)


Baroque and Roll you mean?

I am pretty surer that Thomas Arne would have appreciated
Jethro Tull. A flautist standing on one leg - who could
resist? :-)


A recent BBC TV series on the Symphony included a baroque version of a
Status Quo number!


--
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On 28/02/2017 14:00, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 28/02/2017 13:59, Iain Churches wrote:
"Graeme Wall" wrote in message
...
On 28/02/2017 11:22, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Michael Kellett wrote:
Johan Helsingius:
On 27-02-17 20:43, Iain Churches wrote:
It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.

Not if you live in Amsterdam...

Julf

Is it such a great loss ?

An extract from the letter announcing this:

"The Brexit vote has already had an impact on our fundraising efforts.
The current orchestra has no UK
members, but EUBO's administration is entirely British. With the UK
outside the EU and free movement to
and from the UK in all likelihood ended, EUBO's operation will become
seriously compromised, to say
nothing of our likely future access to EU and other funds."

If their are no UK members of the orchestra it seems kind of silly for
it to be based here.

Based in Woodstock? Lots and lots of 'Baroque' musicians must live
there.
;-)


Baroque and Roll you mean?

I am pretty surer that Thomas Arne would have appreciated
Jethro Tull. A flautist standing on one leg - who could
resist? :-)


A recent BBC TV series on the Symphony included a baroque version of a
Status Quo number!

How about the Gumbo Variations?
(Although Zappa was more Boulez than Bach.)

--
Eiron.

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Did you watch the broadcast from the link I posted.
Dutch TV AVRO did a very good job.

Yes, AVRO usually does a more than decent job.

Anyone recognise the location?

The Dom in Utrecht?

Haven't been there more than once - I am spoiled by being within walking
distance from Amsterdam Concertgebouw...

Julf

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In article ,
Richard Robinson wrote:
This kind of thing is inevitable with Brexit. Musicians are ready to
travel and stand in at a moments notice - if a counter tenor is needed
tonight, he is needed tonight - not in three weeks when a working visa
can be arranged. This orchestra has done the right thing in moving to
a location that preserves its freedom of artistic choice.

Yes, in the circumstances. But it's kind of a pity for anybody in the UK
who does care about such music, especially any students who might have
spent years of their life working towards getting a place in such an
orchestra. But, as you say, inevitable. Just one of the smaller reasons
why I do not have a good opinion of Brexit.

Quite. Can you imagine BMW - who own the Mini factory in the UK - having
to apply for a visa to send over an engineer to trouble shoot something
that crops up? Likewise with any such European organisation that have a
presence here.

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Dave Plowman (News) said:
In article ,
Richard Robinson wrote:
This kind of thing is inevitable with Brexit. Musicians are ready to
travel and stand in at a moments notice - if a counter tenor is needed
tonight, he is needed tonight - not in three weeks when a working visa
can be arranged. This orchestra has done the right thing in moving to
a location that preserves its freedom of artistic choice.

Yes, in the circumstances. But it's kind of a pity for anybody in the UK
who does care about such music, especially any students who might have
spent years of their life working towards getting a place in such an
orchestra. But, as you say, inevitable. Just one of the smaller reasons
why I do not have a good opinion of Brexit.

Quite. Can you imagine BMW - who own the Mini factory in the UK - having
to apply for a visa to send over an engineer to trouble shoot something
that crops up? Likewise with any such European organisation that have a
presence here.

"Fog in Westminster, continent left stranded".


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In article ,
Graeme Wall wrote:
Based in Woodstock? Lots and lots of 'Baroque' musicians must live there.
;-)


Baroque and Roll you mean?

Ah - the other Woodstock. ;-)

Can't really think of an odder place to have the headquarters of a band.
It doesn't even have a railway station. And property prices are sky high.

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"Johan Helsingius" wrote in message
...
Did you watch the broadcast from the link I posted.
Dutch TV AVRO did a very good job.

Yes, AVRO usually does a more than decent job.

Anyone recognise the location?

The Dom in Utrecht?

Haven't been there more than once - I am spoiled by being within walking
distance from Amsterdam Concertgebouw...

Lucky you:-)

I have worked on several recording projects in Holland
with orchestral players from Hilversum. We recorded at
a very fine church near Lunen.

Iain

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Graeme Wall wrote:
Based in Woodstock? Lots and lots of 'Baroque' musicians must live
there.
;-)


Baroque and Roll you mean?

Ah - the other Woodstock. ;-)

Can't really think of an odder place to have the headquarters of a band.
It doesn't even have a railway station. And property prices are sky high.

Woodstock's proximity to Oxford makes it a very
good location. The EUBO is not a "band"

Iain

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In article ,
Huge wrote:
Quite. Can you imagine BMW - who own the Mini factory in the UK -
having to apply for a visa to send over an engineer to trouble shoot
something that crops up? Likewise with any such European organisation
that have a presence here.

Won't be a problem once Mini production moves to the EU, of course.


https://www.theguardian.com/business...germany-oxford

And some doubts from Nissan too - despite the 'secret' guarantees.

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Well did they say why?
I'd not have thought this kind of thing would be affected much by brexit or
anything else. Sounds more like somebody made tyhem an offer.
Nothing then to stop some enterprising UK person with deep pockets from
starting up a rival.

Brian

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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.

The British do not have the strong symphonic
tradition of some other Western countries,
but we *do* have some of the world's finest
baroque composers: Thomas Arne, Henry Purcel,
Orlando Gibbons, William Byrd, and of course
Handel, who became a British national by act of
parliament, at the wish of George 1st in 1727.

The fact that Europe's finest, youngest baroque
orchestra has made its home in the UK for the
past 30 years has contributed enormously in
bringing our musical heritage to a wider
British audience.

After the orchestra relocates, British players
will no longer be eligible for membership
nor British students for participation in the
training which bridges the important gap
between the conservatory of music and
the world of the professional musician.

It looks as if, in this particular game of musical
chairs,when the next chair is taken away it will
be the British musician who is left without a seat.

That's very sad.

Iain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgtRjiywS20

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Yes we still belong to Eurovision and the EBU as we did before the EU.
Brian

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On 27-02-17 20:43, Iain Churches wrote:
It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.

Not if you live in Amsterdam...

Julf

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I have worked on several recording projects in Holland
with orchestral players from Hilversum. We recorded at
a very fine church near Lunen.

Lunen probably had less of an issue with background noise
compared to Amsterdam... :)

Julf

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On Tue, 28 Feb 2017 20:34:21 +0100, Johan Helsingius
wrote:

I have worked on several recording projects in Holland
with orchestral players from Hilversum. We recorded at
a very fine church near Lunen.

Lunen probably had less of an issue with background noise
compared to Amsterdam... :)


Listen to some of Hogwood's recordings made here in Hampstead (London)
at St-Judes-under-the-flightpath.

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On 28/02/2017 19:34, Johan Helsingius wrote:
I have worked on several recording projects in Holland
with orchestral players from Hilversum. We recorded at
a very fine church near Lunen.

Lunen probably had less of an issue with background noise
compared to Amsterdam... :)

Will Den Haag do?
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7261152

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On 28-02-17 21:05, Eiron wrote:

Will Den Haag do?

"Category: Electronica Albums, Ambient CDs, Dance"

OK, *that* I can imagine being recorded in Amsterdam or Den Haag! :)

Julf

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On 28/02/2017 19:21, Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes we still belong to Eurovision and the EBU as we did before the EU.

I don't as I'm not a public service broadcasting organization.

I wonder why the Beeb or Channel 4 is ignoring this.
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...ere-to-be-seen

They could invite the Tallis Scholars, The Sixteen, or any number of choirs
to do a quick motet. Wouldn't need any preparation.
Or maybe the BBC thinks they are too English, male, and white.
(Can the Black Dyke Band sing?)

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Brian. The orchestra is based in the UK but funded by
an EU cultural foundation. When Britain leaves the EU, to
qualify for continued funding, the orchestra will need to
be based in an EU country. Holland is a very good choice.
Our loss is very much their gain.

Iain

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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Well did they say why?
I'd not have thought this kind of thing would be affected much by brexit
or anything else. Sounds more like somebody made tyhem an offer.
Nothing then to stop some enterprising UK person with deep pockets from
starting up a rival.

Brian

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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.

The British do not have the strong symphonic
tradition of some other Western countries,
but we *do* have some of the world's finest
baroque composers: Thomas Arne, Henry Purcel,
Orlando Gibbons, William Byrd, and of course
Handel, who became a British national by act of
parliament, at the wish of George 1st in 1727.

The fact that Europe's finest, youngest baroque
orchestra has made its home in the UK for the
past 30 years has contributed enormously in
bringing our musical heritage to a wider
British audience.

After the orchestra relocates, British players
will no longer be eligible for membership
nor British students for participation in the
training which bridges the important gap
between the conservatory of music and
the world of the professional musician.

It looks as if, in this particular game of musical
chairs,when the next chair is taken away it will
be the British musician who is left without a seat.

That's very sad.

Iain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgtRjiywS20

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"Johan Helsingius" wrote in message
...
I have worked on several recording projects in Holland
with orchestral players from Hilversum. We recorded at
a very fine church near Lunen.

Lunen probably had less of an issue with background noise
compared to Amsterdam... :)

It was not the the traffic that bothered us during the day,
but the sparrows. Unbelievably loud!

So, we recorded at night,
went for bicycle rides and ate Rookworst
with Ivanabitch during the day:-)

Great fun!

Iain

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It was not the the traffic that bothered us during the day,
but the sparrows. Unbelievably loud!

Heh, yes. Here in Amsterdam we have the parakeets (started out
with a squatter breeding hundreds of them in an empty attic in
the 70's - when he got evicted he just released them). Annoyingly
loud, and not really songbirds...

So, we recorded at night,
went for bicycle rides and ate Rookworst
with Ivanabitch during the day:-)

Sounds perfect :)

Julf

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On 01/03/2017 14:34, Iain Churches wrote:
"Johan Helsingius" wrote in message
...
I have worked on several recording projects in Holland
with orchestral players from Hilversum. We recorded at
a very fine church near Lunen.

Lunen probably had less of an issue with background noise
compared to Amsterdam... :)

It was not the the traffic that bothered us during the day,
but the sparrows. Unbelievably loud!

So, we recorded at night,
went for bicycle rides and ate Rookworst
with Ivanabitch during the day:-)

What about the bats in the belfry?
At 96k or SACD sampling rates you will have recorded a lot of squeaking.

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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 21:43:17 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.

The British do not have the strong symphonic
tradition of some other Western countries,
but we *do* have some of the world's finest
baroque composers: Thomas Arne, Henry Purcel,
Orlando Gibbons, William Byrd, and of course
Handel, who became a British national by act of
parliament, at the wish of George 1st in 1727.

The fact that Europe's finest, youngest baroque
orchestra has made its home in the UK for the
past 30 years has contributed enormously in
bringing our musical heritage to a wider
British audience.

After the orchestra relocates, British players
will no longer be eligible for membership
nor British students for participation in the
training which bridges the important gap
between the conservatory of music and
the world of the professional musician.

It looks as if, in this particular game of musical
chairs,when the next chair is taken away it will
be the British musician who is left without a seat.

That's very sad.

Iain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgtRjiywS20




This kind of thing is inevitable with Brexit. Musicians are ready to
travel and stand in at a moments notice - if a counter tenor is needed
tonight, he is needed tonight - not in three weeks when a working visa
can be arranged. This orchestra has done the right thing in moving to
a location that preserves its freedom of artistic choice.



I have a feeling this is just the thin end of a very thick wedge :-(

Iain

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In article ,
Johan Helsingius wrote:
It was not the the traffic that bothered us during the day,
but the sparrows. Unbelievably loud!

Heh, yes. Here in Amsterdam we have the parakeets (started out
with a squatter breeding hundreds of them in an empty attic in
the 70's - when he got evicted he just released them). Annoyingly
loud, and not really songbirds...

Loads of them in London too. Started somewhere near Hampton Court perhaps
25 years ago and have been spreading since, to all the many parks and
commons.

But hardly any sparrows now, sadly. I actually liked them when doing
speech recording for location drama. They masked other less acceptable
noises.

I'm not sure if the parakeets being able to live here now while sparrows
are much reduced is due to climate change?

So, we recorded at night,
went for bicycle rides and ate Rookworst
with Ivanabitch during the day:-)

Sounds perfect :)

Julf

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On Thu, 02 Mar 2017 14:14:12 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

I'm not sure if the parakeets being able to live here now while sparrows
are much reduced is due to climate change?

I think the sparrows are gone because the insects have gone. I
remember in the 1970's if I went for a drive I always had a damp
chamois leather in the car. Every hour or so I would have to stop to
get all the splattered bugs off the windscreen. These days I can drive
for hours and nothing commits suicide on the front of my car.

I guess this is a combination of climate change and insecticides.

d

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In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
I'm not sure if the parakeets being able to live here now while sparrows
are much reduced is due to climate change?

I think the sparrows are gone because the insects have gone. I
remember in the 1970's if I went for a drive I always had a damp
chamois leather in the car. Every hour or so I would have to stop to
get all the splattered bugs off the windscreen. These days I can drive
for hours and nothing commits suicide on the front of my car.

I guess this is a combination of climate change and insecticides.

They disappeared from round here near overnight. Or it seemed like that.
The only slight advantage being (apparently) a bigger selections of other
species of birds seen in the garden.

I miss their constant chirping. It's never quiet in London, and that was
nicer than the sounds of distant traffic and other man made things.

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More likely the abundance of grey squirrels and magpies that steal the
eggs out of the nests - and not just sparrows.



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Woody

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In article ,
Woody wrote:
More likely the abundance of grey squirrels and magpies that steal the
eggs out of the nests - and not just sparrows.

That wouldn't explain the sparrows round here disappearing so quickly.
I assumed it was some sort of virus or whatever. And if it were predators
stealing eggs, why are there so many pigeons?

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