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Iain Churches[_2_] February 27th 17 06:43 PM

Baroque Musical Chairs
 
It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.

The British do not have the strong symphonic
tradition of some other Western countries,
but we *do* have some of the world's finest
baroque composers: Thomas Arne, Henry Purcel,
Orlando Gibbons, William Byrd, and of course
Handel, who became a British national by act of
parliament, at the wish of George 1st in 1727.

The fact that Europe's finest, youngest baroque
orchestra has made its home in the UK for the
past 30 years has contributed enormously in
bringing our musical heritage to a wider
British audience.

After the orchestra relocates, British players
will no longer be eligible for membership
nor British students for participation in the
training which bridges the important gap
between the conservatory of music and
the world of the professional musician.

It looks as if, in this particular game of musical
chairs,when the next chair is taken away it will
be the British musician who is left without a seat.

That's very sad.

Iain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgtRjiywS20






Johan Helsingius February 28th 17 06:33 AM

Baroque Musical Chairs
 
On 27-02-17 20:43, Iain Churches wrote:
It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.


Not if you live in Amsterdam...

Julf



Michael Kellett February 28th 17 08:50 AM

Baroque Musical Chairs
 
Johan Helsingius:
On 27-02-17 20:43, Iain Churches wrote:
It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.


Not if you live in Amsterdam...

Julf


Is it such a great loss ?

An extract from the letter announcing this:

"The Brexit vote has already had an impact on our fundraising efforts.
The current orchestra has no UK
members, but EUBO's administration is entirely British. With the UK
outside the EU and free movement to
and from the UK in all likelihood ended, EUBO's operation will become
seriously compromised, to say
nothing of our likely future access to EU and other funds."

If their are no UK members of the orchestra it seems kind of silly for
it to be based here.

MK

Graeme Wall February 28th 17 09:54 AM

Baroque Musical Chairs
 
On 28/02/2017 09:50, Michael Kellett wrote:
Johan Helsingius:
On 27-02-17 20:43, Iain Churches wrote:
It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.


Not if you live in Amsterdam...

Julf


Is it such a great loss ?

An extract from the letter announcing this:

"The Brexit vote has already had an impact on our fundraising efforts.
The current orchestra has no UK
members, but EUBO's administration is entirely British. With the UK
outside the EU and free movement to
and from the UK in all likelihood ended, EUBO's operation will become
seriously compromised, to say
nothing of our likely future access to EU and other funds."

If their are no UK members of the orchestra it seems kind of silly for
it to be based here.


Currently none, but now there is no incentive or opportunity for British
musicians to take part. Just part of the creeping cultural destruction
that Brexit is imposing on us.


--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.


Dave Plowman (News) February 28th 17 10:22 AM

Baroque Musical Chairs
 
In article ,
Michael Kellett wrote:
Johan Helsingius:
On 27-02-17 20:43, Iain Churches wrote:
It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.


Not if you live in Amsterdam...

Julf


Is it such a great loss ?


An extract from the letter announcing this:


"The Brexit vote has already had an impact on our fundraising efforts.
The current orchestra has no UK
members, but EUBO's administration is entirely British. With the UK
outside the EU and free movement to
and from the UK in all likelihood ended, EUBO's operation will become
seriously compromised, to say
nothing of our likely future access to EU and other funds."


If their are no UK members of the orchestra it seems kind of silly for
it to be based here.


Based in Woodstock? Lots and lots of 'Baroque' musicians must live there.
;-)

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
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Don Pearce[_3_] February 28th 17 10:50 AM

Baroque Musical Chairs
 
On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 21:43:17 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.

The British do not have the strong symphonic
tradition of some other Western countries,
but we *do* have some of the world's finest
baroque composers: Thomas Arne, Henry Purcel,
Orlando Gibbons, William Byrd, and of course
Handel, who became a British national by act of
parliament, at the wish of George 1st in 1727.

The fact that Europe's finest, youngest baroque
orchestra has made its home in the UK for the
past 30 years has contributed enormously in
bringing our musical heritage to a wider
British audience.

After the orchestra relocates, British players
will no longer be eligible for membership
nor British students for participation in the
training which bridges the important gap
between the conservatory of music and
the world of the professional musician.

It looks as if, in this particular game of musical
chairs,when the next chair is taken away it will
be the British musician who is left without a seat.

That's very sad.

Iain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgtRjiywS20




This kind of thing is inevitable with Brexit. Musicians are ready to
travel and stand in at a moments notice - if a counter tenor is needed
tonight, he is needed tonight - not in three weeks when a working visa
can be arranged. This orchestra has done the right thing in moving to
a location that preserves its freedom of artistic choice.

d

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Richard Robinson February 28th 17 11:20 AM

Baroque Musical Chairs
 
Don Pearce said:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 21:43:17 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.
...
After the orchestra relocates, British players
will no longer be eligible for membership
nor British students for participation in the
training which bridges the important gap
between the conservatory of music and
the world of the professional musician.
...
That's very sad.

This kind of thing is inevitable with Brexit. Musicians are ready to
travel and stand in at a moments notice - if a counter tenor is needed
tonight, he is needed tonight - not in three weeks when a working visa
can be arranged. This orchestra has done the right thing in moving to
a location that preserves its freedom of artistic choice.


Yes, in the circumstances. But it's kind of a pity for anybody in the UK who
does care about such music, especially any students who might have spent
years of their life working towards getting a place in such an orchestra.
But, as you say, inevitable. Just one of the smaller reasons why I do not
have a good opinion of Brexit.


--
Richard Robinson
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Iain Churches[_2_] February 28th 17 11:29 AM

Baroque Musical Chairs
 

"Graeme Wall" wrote in message
...
On 28/02/2017 09:50, Michael Kellett wrote:
Johan Helsingius:
On 27-02-17 20:43, Iain Churches wrote:
It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.

If their are no UK members of the orchestra it seems kind of silly for
it to be based here.


Currently none, but now there is no incentive or opportunity for British
musicians to take part. Just part of the creeping cultural destruction
that Brexit is imposing on us.


I agree totally.
Iain




Iain Churches[_2_] February 28th 17 11:34 AM

Baroque Musical Chairs
 

"Michael Kellett" wrote in message
...
Johan Helsingius:
On 27-02-17 20:43, Iain Churches wrote:
It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.


Not if you live in Amsterdam...

Julf


Is it such a great loss ?

An extract from the letter announcing this:

"The Brexit vote has already had an impact on our fundraising efforts.
The current orchestra has no UK
members, but EUBO's administration is entirely British. With the UK
outside the EU and free movement to
and from the UK in all likelihood ended, EUBO's operation will become
seriously compromised, to say
nothing of our likely future access to EU and other funds."

If their are no UK members of the orchestra it seems kind of silly for
it to be based here.

There would be UK members if they
passed the audition/selection board.

In the future there can be no UK members. period.
The singers are currently all from Clare College Cambridge.
That too will end.


Iain




Iain Churches[_2_] February 28th 17 11:35 AM

Baroque Musical Chairs
 

"Johan Helsingius" wrote in message
...
On 27-02-17 20:43, Iain Churches wrote:
It has recently been announced that the EUBO
(The European Union Baroque Orchestra) will
relocate from Woodstock, Oxfordshire UK
to Amsterdam. That's sad.


Not if you live in Amsterdam...

How true:-)

Did you watch the broadcast from the link I posted.
Dutch TV AVRO did a very good job.
Anyone recognise the location?
Iain





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