As per subject.

While browsing the HMV Worthing store I came across some classical
music (German) on Super AUdio CD.

There are still a couple of players that support this format
but am I right in thinking that everyone has moved on to
'Higher resolution' downloads (or back to vinyl :-) ) ?.

Or has the penny dropped and people gone back to standard
CD format with just a better pair of speakers ?.

I've seen this article btw :-

https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

Andrew

I notice from talking to those who still frequent stores that many companies
are releasing their content as a multi format offering. IE you get two
vinyl's, a CD and a download code for the rather inflated cost.
Brian

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As per subject.

While browsing the HMV Worthing store I came across some classical
music (German) on Super AUdio CD.

There are still a couple of players that support this format
but am I right in thinking that everyone has moved on to
'Higher resolution' downloads (or back to vinyl :-) ) ?.

Or has the penny dropped and people gone back to standard
CD format with just a better pair of speakers ?.

I've seen this article btw :-

https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

Andrew

In article , Andrew
wrote:
As per subject.

While browsing the HMV Worthing store I came across some classical music
(German) on Super AUdio CD.

There are still a couple of players that support this format but am I
right in thinking that everyone has moved on to 'Higher resolution'
downloads (or back to vinyl :-) ) ?.

Or has the penny dropped and people gone back to standard CD format with
just a better pair of speakers ?.

Various companies still issue hybrid CD/SACD discs and some people prefer
them. Similarly, some new players continue to cater for them. We seem to
have moved from behaviour of each 'new format' largely making old ones
'obsolete' to one where many formats simply provide options and people pick
what they prefer. Although the snag may be that a specific recording you
wan't isn't actually available in a format you want or can play.

The heart format of SACD (DSD) is also now available in file format and can
be played with suitable DACs via a computer.

Many people now clearly prefer streaming/downloading. But millions of CDs
still get sold. The latest (commercially prompted) format is MQA. Which is
to a large exent HDCD-on-stilts. (HDCD still also appears, but now can
easily be software decoded as it went out of patent a while ago.)

I thought there was a certain wry amusement in the situation where, a week
or so ago, I was recording a flac stream from the BBC of 'Record Review' on
R3 where they were playing LPs on a fancy system. But at least none of the
LPs were DBX processed so far as I know. But who knows, maybe someone will
revive that particular spare wheel and we'll also have SQ/QS LPs for people
to play through their home Home Theater system. 8-]

I've seen this article btw :-

https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

Andrew

Jim

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On 28/04/17 09:04, Brian Gaff wrote:
I notice from talking to those who still frequent stores that many companies
are releasing their content as a multi format offering. IE you get two
vinyl's, a CD and a download code for the rather inflated cost.

That is ...

1. A CD for convenience,
2. Two records pressed of decent weight material with the full playing
length of the CD
3. A subscriber tracked high resolution download.

Don't think it's *that* inflated, but a limited market for them that
have a real interest in enjoying things of higher fidelity to the
general masses acceptable output of CD.

I have Pink Floyd DSOTM in various formats now, including the 5.1
surround SACD. Prefer the 70's vinyl, I don't have access to the
hallucinogenics to do full justice to the SACD release.

--
Adrian C

Adrian Caspersz wrote:




I have Pink Floyd DSOTM in various formats now, including the 5.1
surround SACD. Prefer the 70's vinyl, I don't have access to the
hallucinogenics to do full justice to the SACD release.



** DSOTM was not "trippy" .....

But the same band's 1969, double album " Ummagumma" was.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3214/3...bbc4ee00_o.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...e880a5e490.jpg


Have you never heard it??


..... Phil

On Friday, April 28, 2017 at 9:18:04 PM UTC+10, Phil Allison wrote:
Adrian Caspersz wrote:




I have Pink Floyd DSOTM in various formats now, including the 5.1
surround SACD. Prefer the 70's vinyl, I don't have access to the
hallucinogenics to do full justice to the SACD release.



** DSOTM was not "trippy" .....

But the same band's 1969, double album " Ummagumma" was.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3214/3...bbc4ee00_o.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...e880a5e490.jpg


Have you never heard it??


** Some samples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5gJ61uAHNk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8OE4gedQuc



..... Phil

Once upon a time on usenet Andrew wrote:
As per subject.

While browsing the HMV Worthing store I came across some classical
music (German) on Super AUdio CD.

There are still a couple of players that support this format
but am I right in thinking that everyone has moved on to
'Higher resolution' downloads (or back to vinyl :-) ) ?.

Or has the penny dropped and people gone back to standard
CD format with just a better pair of speakers ?.

I've seen this article btw :-

https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

Wow! Whoever wrote that doesn't know how to use the English language to
communicate clearly. I found myself reading sentences several times to grasp
what he (?) was trying to say.

Does anyone know of a similar explanatory site (mainly about the ear and how
it works - in detail)? Struggling with the phrasing at that one gave me a
headache.

Cheers,
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

Once upon a time on usenet ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Andrew wrote:
As per subject.

While browsing the HMV Worthing store I came across some classical
music (German) on Super AUdio CD.

There are still a couple of players that support this format
but am I right in thinking that everyone has moved on to
'Higher resolution' downloads (or back to vinyl :-) ) ?.

Or has the penny dropped and people gone back to standard
CD format with just a better pair of speakers ?.

I've seen this article btw :-

https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

Wow! Whoever wrote that doesn't know how to use the English language
to communicate clearly. I found myself reading sentences several
times to grasp what he (?) was trying to say.

Does anyone know of a similar explanatory site (mainly about the ear
and how it works - in detail)? Struggling with the phrasing at that
one gave me a headache.

Belay that, I found this site and it's much better;
http://www.soundonsound.com/sound-advice/how-ear-works

Though it doesn't cover inter-'hair' distances etc. that were being used in
the first artcile to support the author's stand.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

In article , ~misfit~
wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Andrew wrote:
As per subject.

While browsing the HMV Worthing store I came across some classical
music (German) on Super AUdio CD.

There are still a couple of players that support this format but am I
right in thinking that everyone has moved on to 'Higher resolution'
downloads (or back to vinyl :-) ) ?.

Or has the penny dropped and people gone back to standard CD format
with just a better pair of speakers ?.

I've seen this article btw :-

https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

Wow! Whoever wrote that doesn't know how to use the English language
to communicate clearly. I found myself reading sentences several times
to grasp what he (?) was trying to say.

Interesting. I read the page and it seemed pretty clear to me. In general I
tend to think Xiph's work is recommendable.



Does anyone know of a similar explanatory site (mainly about the ear
and how it works - in detail)? Struggling with the phrasing at that
one gave me a headache.

Belay that, I found this site and it's much better;
http://www.soundonsound.com/sound-advice/how-ear-works

Though it doesn't cover inter-'hair' distances etc. that were being used
in the first artcile to support the author's stand.

I'm not clear what precise question you have in mind. But as a general
point the ability to sense 'pitch' isn't simply a matter of how far apart
in 'resonant frequency' the peaks of the individual sensor hair bundles
response curves are. That, I think, is the reason for Xiph's analogy with a
a vision colour system using a finite set of colour sensor profiles.

Jim

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On 29/04/2017 07:12, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Andrew wrote:
As per subject.

While browsing the HMV Worthing store I came across some classical
music (German) on Super AUdio CD.

There are still a couple of players that support this format
but am I right in thinking that everyone has moved on to
'Higher resolution' downloads (or back to vinyl :-) ) ?.

Or has the penny dropped and people gone back to standard
CD format with just a better pair of speakers ?.

I've seen this article btw :-

https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

Wow! Whoever wrote that doesn't know how to use the English language
to communicate clearly. I found myself reading sentences several
times to grasp what he (?) was trying to say.

Does anyone know of a similar explanatory site (mainly about the ear
and how it works - in detail)? Struggling with the phrasing at that
one gave me a headache.

Belay that, I found this site and it's much better;
http://www.soundonsound.com/sound-advice/how-ear-works

Though it doesn't cover inter-'hair' distances etc. that were being used in
the first artcile to support the author's stand.


I found them both OK on physiology and physics - for my lay purposes at
any rate.

What they don't cover is what I would call psycho or socio acoustics.

In this sense I think it'd be useful to understand a little more about
why I might always prefer an uncompressed music file to something lossy
of the exact same recording - even if, quantitatively at least, I can't
express any difference between the two. And technically, no difference

Then there's vinyl and other 'deep' analogue mediums - why some people
find it more natural, accurate and so on.

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Cheers, Rob