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Is the SACD format now dead ?.



 
 
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Old April 27th 17, 08:34 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Andrew[_2_]
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Default Is the SACD format now dead ?.

As per subject.

While browsing the HMV Worthing store I came across some classical
music (German) on Super AUdio CD.

There are still a couple of players that support this format
but am I right in thinking that everyone has moved on to
'Higher resolution' downloads (or back to vinyl :-) ) ?.

Or has the penny dropped and people gone back to standard
CD format with just a better pair of speakers ?.

I've seen this article btw :-

https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

Andrew

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Old April 28th 17, 08:04 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Brian Gaff
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Default Is the SACD format now dead ?.

I notice from talking to those who still frequent stores that many companies
are releasing their content as a multi format offering. IE you get two
vinyl's, a CD and a download code for the rather inflated cost.
Brian

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As per subject.

While browsing the HMV Worthing store I came across some classical
music (German) on Super AUdio CD.

There are still a couple of players that support this format
but am I right in thinking that everyone has moved on to
'Higher resolution' downloads (or back to vinyl :-) ) ?.

Or has the penny dropped and people gone back to standard
CD format with just a better pair of speakers ?.

I've seen this article btw :-

https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

Andrew



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Old April 28th 17, 10:22 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Adrian Caspersz
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Default Is the SACD format now dead ?.

On 28/04/17 09:04, Brian Gaff wrote:
I notice from talking to those who still frequent stores that many companies
are releasing their content as a multi format offering. IE you get two
vinyl's, a CD and a download code for the rather inflated cost.


That is ...

1. A CD for convenience,
2. Two records pressed of decent weight material with the full playing
length of the CD
3. A subscriber tracked high resolution download.

Don't think it's *that* inflated, but a limited market for them that
have a real interest in enjoying things of higher fidelity to the
general masses acceptable output of CD.

I have Pink Floyd DSOTM in various formats now, including the 5.1
surround SACD. Prefer the 70's vinyl, I don't have access to the
hallucinogenics to do full justice to the SACD release.

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Old April 28th 17, 11:18 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Phil Allison[_3_]
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Default Is the SACD format now dead ?.

Adrian Caspersz wrote:




I have Pink Floyd DSOTM in various formats now, including the 5.1
surround SACD. Prefer the 70's vinyl, I don't have access to the
hallucinogenics to do full justice to the SACD release.



** DSOTM was not "trippy" .....

But the same band's 1969, double album " Ummagumma" was.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3214/3...bbc4ee00_o.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...e880a5e490.jpg


Have you never heard it??


..... Phil
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Old April 28th 17, 11:31 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Phil Allison[_3_]
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Default Is the SACD format now dead ?.

On Friday, April 28, 2017 at 9:18:04 PM UTC+10, Phil Allison wrote:
Adrian Caspersz wrote:




I have Pink Floyd DSOTM in various formats now, including the 5.1
surround SACD. Prefer the 70's vinyl, I don't have access to the
hallucinogenics to do full justice to the SACD release.



** DSOTM was not "trippy" .....

But the same band's 1969, double album " Ummagumma" was.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3214/3...bbc4ee00_o.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...e880a5e490.jpg


Have you never heard it??


** Some samples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5gJ61uAHNk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8OE4gedQuc



..... Phil

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Old May 5th 17, 07:33 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Iain Churches[_2_]
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Default Is the SACD format now dead ?.


"Adrian Caspersz" wrote in message
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On 28/04/17 09:04, Brian Gaff wrote:
I notice from talking to those who still frequent stores that many
companies
are releasing their content as a multi format offering. IE you get two
vinyl's, a CD and a download code for the rather inflated cost.


That is ...

1. A CD for convenience,
2. Two records pressed of decent weight material with the full playing
length of the CD
3. A subscriber tracked high resolution download.

Don't think it's *that* inflated, but a limited market for them that have
a real interest in enjoying things of higher fidelity to the general
masses acceptable output of CD.

I have Pink Floyd DSOTM in various formats now, including the 5.1 surround
SACD. Prefer the 70's vinyl, I don't have access to the hallucinogenics to
do full justice to the SACD release.


I am happy to see there is product still being released on vinyl
only - pristine, low-run 200 gm numbered pressings, with
fabulous gatefold sleeves ande booklets.

The "general masses" to whom you refer don't use CD. Dowloads
at 120k are the standard for people many of whom have never
heard a good vinyl set up. It's fun to watch their faces.


Iain


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Old May 5th 17, 07:23 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Iain Churches[_2_]
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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I notice from talking to those who still frequent stores that many
companies are releasing their content as a multi format offering. IE you
get two vinyl's, a CD and a download code for the rather inflated cost.
Brian


CD factories are facing hard times.
Hence the idea of a multi-fomat package -
vinyl pressings F.O.C as an incentive when
ordering CDs.



Iain





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Old May 5th 17, 08:24 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Vir Campestris
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Default Is the SACD format now dead ?.

On 05/05/2017 20:23, Iain Churches wrote:
CD factories are facing hard times.
Hence the idea of a multi-fomat package -
vinyl pressings F.O.C as an incentive when
ordering CDs.


I passed a shop the other day offering someone's new album at twice the
price for vinyl as CD.

Andy
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Old May 6th 17, 06:29 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Iain Churches[_2_]
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"Vir Campestris" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 05/05/2017 20:23, Iain Churches wrote:
CD factories are facing hard times.
Hence the idea of a multi-fomat package -
vinyl pressings F.O.C as an incentive when
ordering CDs.


I passed a shop the other day offering someone's new album at twice the
price for vinyl as CD.



The unit cost of vinyl pressings is much
higher than CD. How much higher
depends on the pressing quantity.

One can get CD reprocation, disc and simple
sleeve for 20p a piece.

Iain


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Old April 28th 17, 08:34 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim Lesurf[_2_]
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Default Is the SACD format now dead ?.

In article , Andrew
wrote:
As per subject.


While browsing the HMV Worthing store I came across some classical music
(German) on Super AUdio CD.


There are still a couple of players that support this format but am I
right in thinking that everyone has moved on to 'Higher resolution'
downloads (or back to vinyl :-) ) ?.


Or has the penny dropped and people gone back to standard CD format with
just a better pair of speakers ?.


Various companies still issue hybrid CD/SACD discs and some people prefer
them. Similarly, some new players continue to cater for them. We seem to
have moved from behaviour of each 'new format' largely making old ones
'obsolete' to one where many formats simply provide options and people pick
what they prefer. Although the snag may be that a specific recording you
wan't isn't actually available in a format you want or can play.

The heart format of SACD (DSD) is also now available in file format and can
be played with suitable DACs via a computer.

Many people now clearly prefer streaming/downloading. But millions of CDs
still get sold. The latest (commercially prompted) format is MQA. Which is
to a large exent HDCD-on-stilts. (HDCD still also appears, but now can
easily be software decoded as it went out of patent a while ago.)

I thought there was a certain wry amusement in the situation where, a week
or so ago, I was recording a flac stream from the BBC of 'Record Review' on
R3 where they were playing LPs on a fancy system. But at least none of the
LPs were DBX processed so far as I know. But who knows, maybe someone will
revive that particular spare wheel and we'll also have SQ/QS LPs for people
to play through their home Home Theater system. 8-]

I've seen this article btw :-


https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html


Andrew


Jim

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