Once upon a time on usenet ~misfit~ wrote:
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I see that they've sanitised their history section on their website
so that it doesn't cover much about their PA amps.
http://www.perreaux.com/about/perreaux-history
They used to have a page where they had pics from 1975, throwing one
of their Blockbuster PA amps off the roof of a single-story
commercial unit in Napier onto the concrete driveway, pics of the
dented heatsinks then pics of it powering up. It was a stunt to get
bands and hire outfits to buy their amplifiers, showing they couild
take the knocks on the road. I guess as they're chasing the big bucks
audiophool market they don't want potential buyers seeing that sort
of thing these days. I wish I'd saved that page now, I still have one
of those Blockbusters (though not in working condition.)

Also found this page while searching;
https://www.slideshare.net/PerreauxA...eshow-30645697
If I had to guess I'd say it'd been put together by Vicki ven Rooyen in
2014.

If anyone cares there are some of the pics from the lost page I mentioned
above, the crew throwing an amp off the roof, checking it out then powering
up on slide 20. "Marty" makes his first appearance on slide 40. It's a shame
that the slides aren't dated.

Reading between the lines of that slide show and going by what I remember
(and reading several cryptic comments about Peter Perreaux 'loosing the
plot') it seems that the comany went down-hill around they time they made
those fugly 'dog-bone' components. (Although I know a guy with a 'Ferrari
Red' set who loves it - and it sounds good.) It seems that during that
period they went away from their roots and started to prioritise form over
function.

Ok enough internet for now, time to warm up the soldering iron...
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

~misfit~ wrote:

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Also found this page while searching;

https://www.slideshare.net/PerreauxA...eshow-30645697


** I actually worked on a Perreaux 2200 amp once, which I assume was privately imported. Reminded me of a Phase Linear 700B a lot.

I also repaired saw a few "Rockit" SS guitar amps from NZ and a couple of license built "Fender" amps that were clones of the Fender Twin Reverb.

The oddest one has to be a NZ built clone of the Crown DC300A, brand name long forgotten. The owner had brought it and other items of NZ audio technology with him from Auckland.

Then of course there was WASP .....


..... Phil

sunnuntai 23. heinäkuuta 2017 4.50.14 UTC+3 Phil Allison kirjoitti:
~misfit~ wrote:



** That would be the L100 "Century" - based on the similar 4310 and 4311 studio monitors.

JBL must have sold thousands of those. One still sees them in some very respectable set ups. They have a very distinctive 70's East coast sound, a bit bright for my taste.

I was offered a pristine pair just recently. The front grilles are missing but the walnut grille surrounds are there. I am wondering what they are worth. Does 650e sound reasonable??

Replacement grilles for L100 arr available on e-Bay.

Iain

Iain Churches wrote:

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** That would be the L100 "Century" - based on the similar 4310 and 4311 studio monitors.

JBL must have sold thousands of those.


** Allegedly over 100,000 pairs.


One still sees them in some very respectable set ups.


** Be careful who and what you respect.


They have a very distinctive 70's East coast sound,


** Err - you meant West coast ??


I was offered a pristine pair just recently.
The front grilles are missing but the walnut grille surrounds
are there. I am wondering what they are worth.
Does 650e sound reasonable??


** I would not have them in my home if you paid me.

FYI:

I was kinda forced to listen to a pair a few years back, confirming all my earlier opinions.

**** awful.



...... Phil

sunnuntai 23. heinäkuuta 2017 11.34.37 UTC+3 Phil Allison kirjoitti:
Iain Churches wrote:

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** That would be the L100 "Century" - based on the similar 4310 and 4311 studio monitors.

JBL must have sold thousands of those.


** Allegedly over 100,000 pairs.

That's amazing!



They have a very distinctive 70's East coast sound,


** Err - you meant West coast ??

Oops, sorry. I was in LA recently and visited a rhythm section player from the Phil Spector "Wall of Sound" Orchestra. He had gold discs lining the walls of his listening room and a pair of JBL L100 Centuries. Besides vinyl he had a lot of 38 and 19cm/s tapes, backing tracks, rough mixes etc which were of great interest.

Iain

Iain Churches wrote:

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** That would be the L100 "Century" - based on the similar 4310 and 4311 studio monitors.

JBL must have sold thousands of those.


** Allegedly over 100,000 pairs.

That's amazing!



They have a very distinctive 70's East coast sound,


** Err - you meant West coast ??


Oops, sorry. I was in LA recently and visited a rhythm section player
from the Phil Spector "Wall of Sound" Orchestra.


** Hope he doesn't own any hand guns ....



...... Phil

Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:
sunnuntai 23. heinäkuuta 2017 4.50.14 UTC+3 Phil Allison kirjoitti:
~misfit~ wrote:



** That would be the L100 "Century" - based on the similar 4310 and
4311 studio monitors.

JBL must have sold thousands of those. One still sees them in some
very respectable set ups. They have a very distinctive 70's East
coast sound, a bit bright for my taste.

I was offered a pristine pair just recently. The front grilles are
missing but the walnut grille surrounds are there. I am wondering
what they are worth. Does 650e sound reasonable??

Replacement grilles for L100 arr available on e-Bay.

As to their sound I agree with Phil, bloody awful.

When I worked with the band JBL were looked upon as the best PA *drivers*
you could get. It took me a few years (and a few dollars) after that to
realise that most of their boxed home audio products are crap. I read
somewhere that JBL stands for "Junk But Loud" and I must say that I agree
when it comes to home audio.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

In article , Iain
Churches wrote:
However, undeterred, in the next day or so the photos of me in a grass
skirt and pair of coconut shells should be released. ;-

Is the world ready for this? :-)

Well, I've given it 37 years to prepare itself... :-)

See what you think

http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/qmc3/hawaii1.html

Jim

--
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Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

~misfit~ wrote:

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** That would be the L100 "Century" - based on the similar 4310 and
4311 studio monitors.

JBL must have sold thousands of those. One still sees them in some
very respectable set ups. They have a very distinctive 70's East
coast sound, a bit bright for my taste.

I was offered a pristine pair just recently. The front grilles are
missing but the walnut grille surrounds are there. I am wondering
what they are worth. Does 650e sound reasonable??

Replacement grilles for L100 arr available on e-Bay.

As to their sound I agree with Phil, bloody awful.

When I worked with the band JBL were looked upon as the best PA *drivers*
you could get. It took me a few years (and a few dollars) after that to
realise that most of their boxed home audio products are crap. I read
somewhere that JBL stands for "Junk But Loud" and I must say that I agree
when it comes to home audio.



** LOL - the first time I heard "Junk, but Loud" explained was in a leading Sydney hi-fi shop called " Kent Hi-Fi " in 1971. A young Asian salesman pointed at a brightly coloured JBL box and explained what the acronym really meant so most of the room heard it - and got a big telling off from his boss !!

FYI:

JBL's component drivers for live sound use have always represented the best available and the standard to judge others by. JBL's design engineers have broken new ground over and over in this area with things like 4inch dia voice coils, rectangular section aluminium or copper wire, massive magnet structures and titanium diaphragms for horn drivers.

But mostly, and more importantly phenomenal quality control.

Damn expensive but worth it.

Like RR engines.


..... Phil

Once upon a time on usenet Phil Allison wrote:
~misfit~ wrote:

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** That would be the L100 "Century" - based on the similar 4310 and
4311 studio monitors.

JBL must have sold thousands of those. One still sees them in some
very respectable set ups. They have a very distinctive 70's East
coast sound, a bit bright for my taste.

I was offered a pristine pair just recently. The front grilles are
missing but the walnut grille surrounds are there. I am wondering
what they are worth. Does 650e sound reasonable??

Replacement grilles for L100 arr available on e-Bay.

As to their sound I agree with Phil, bloody awful.

When I worked with the band JBL were looked upon as the best PA
*drivers* you could get. It took me a few years (and a few dollars)
after that to realise that most of their boxed home audio products
are crap. I read somewhere that JBL stands for "Junk But Loud" and I
must say that I agree when it comes to home audio.



** LOL - the first time I heard "Junk, but Loud" explained was in a
leading Sydney hi-fi shop called " Kent Hi-Fi " in 1971. A young
Asian salesman pointed at a brightly coloured JBL box and explained
what the acronym really meant so most of the room heard it - and
got a big telling off from his boss !!

FYI:

JBL's component drivers for live sound use have always represented
the best available and the standard to judge others by. JBL's design
engineers have broken new ground over and over in this area with
things like 4inch dia voice coils, rectangular section aluminium or
copper wire, massive magnet structures and titanium diaphragms for
horn drivers.

But mostly, and more importantly phenomenal quality control.

Damn expensive but worth it.

Like RR engines.

Yep. I certainly had no complaints about the JBL drivers we used in live
gigs, they sounded great - which is why I bought JBL speakers for home use
initially after the band split and I stopped touring. That didn't last long.

(I'd had offers from other bands to do both mixing and lights for them over
the years but it was more than a job for me. The guys in the band were like
my brothers. You spend so much time on the road in each others pockets that
there's more to it than simply getting a pay cheque.)
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)