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Keith G December 10th 04 07:52 PM

If the cap fits
 

"Wally" wrote


Frankly, dude, and with the greatest of respect and the best of
intentions,
if you don't like it in here, then go somewhere else. Just to be clear:
nobody's asking you to be anything other than yourself, so don't have the
self-righteous arrogance to expect others to change to suit you.

To put it simply, stop whining, grow a thicker skin, and post something
on-topic.



I think you are missing his point Wally - he is saying that he is aware that
there are a number of people who refrain from joining in here for fear of
being unsulted or dragged into a slanging match and that that is,
ultimately, not good for this group. I happen to agree...

Now on the subject of growing a thicker skin, do you think you could pass
the same advice to one or two 'sensitive souls' here who don't seem to be
too comfortable when I give as good as I get from the likes of Pinky et
al....

Or, better yet, switch your telly on *right now* and tune into a gardening
programme - some **** has hacked a Firefly about to use as a bloody garden
ornament.....!!!





Keith G December 10th 04 07:54 PM

If the cap fits
 

"Iain M Churches" wrote in message
...

"Chris Morriss" wrote in message
...
In message , Iain M Churches
writes


A; He lays awake, wondering "Is there a Dog?"

Oh dear, oh dear. That's an example of 'perfect' English is it?

2/10 for another incorrect use of the word 'lays'.
--
Chris Morriss


Tough marking from you Chris:-)




Oh, feck me - don't tell me that **** still thinks he can teach his betters
how to speak proper English??






Chris Morriss December 10th 04 08:09 PM

If the cap fits
 
In message , Keith G
writes

"Iain M Churches" wrote in message
...

"Chris Morriss" wrote in message
...
In message , Iain M Churches
writes


A; He lays awake, wondering "Is there a Dog?"
Oh dear, oh dear. That's an example of 'perfect' English is it?

2/10 for another incorrect use of the word 'lays'.
--
Chris Morriss


Tough marking from you Chris:-)




Oh, feck me - don't tell me that **** still thinks he can teach his betters
how to speak proper English??





Keith, could you think twice before opening your mouth and putting your
foot in it? It embarrasses you and upsets me.
--
Chris Morriss

Fleetie December 10th 04 08:14 PM

If the cap fits
 
So, did anyone see "The Pedants' Revolt" on BBC4 the other day?

Brilliant. And spot on. Not before time, either. Although not without its
irony, coming from the BBC, to whom I've previously had cause to complain
about mis(non)use of apostrophes on BBC News 24.


Martin
--
M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890
Manchester, U.K. http://www.fleetie.demon.co.uk



Wally December 10th 04 08:31 PM

If the cap fits
 
Keith G wrote:

To put it simply, stop whining, grow a thicker skin, and post
something on-topic.


I think you are missing his point Wally - he is saying that he is
aware that there are a number of people who refrain from joining in
here for fear of being unsulted or dragged into a slanging match and
that that is, ultimately, not good for this group. I happen to
agree...


I can assure you that I am entirely au-fait with the point. Discussion
forums veritably abound on the internet, and there are plenty of places
where the subject matter of ukra can be discussed in a safe, sterile,
butt-kissingly polite manner. This ng is part of *usenet*, and it has the
character that is quite typical of that arena - eclectic, informative,
funny, and provokingly no-holds-barred.

The fact that IMC doesn't like it isn't the group's problem, it's his.

His post is either a troll (in which case he's a sad ******* with
insufficient life with which to find something better to do), or he's a rube
who needs to get out more. If he plans to stick around, he'd do well to take
note of JLS's approach and get *with* the program, rather than try to change
it.

What I don't like about some of IMC's posts is his moral standpont - he's
essentially dictating how people should conduct themselves, but all he's
really doing is saying that that's how he prefers to conduct himself. He's
campaigning for a certain approach, but has no normative basis for asserting
that approach. The implication in his commentary is that his approach is the
way it 'should' be, when the fact of the matter is that his head is too far
up his arse for him to reaslise that other people have different ethics and
conduct themselves in accordance with their own and not his.

Basically, he can't handle the fact that there are people who's beliefs
regarding conduct differ from his. I for one will never kow-tow to any
****er's set of ethics other than my own - and I've never anyone with a
scrap of self-assertiveness that held a different view.

Sometimes, MC comes across as a self-righteous, holier-than-thou ****; but
one who doesn't actually have an argument. If he thinks he has, then he
should feel free to establish that the principle of normative ethics holds
for all men. And, if he can't, he should shut the **** up about 'behaviour'
and get on with posting on-topic.


Now on the subject of growing a thicker skin, do you think you could
pass the same advice to one or two 'sensitive souls' here who don't
seem to be too comfortable when I give as good as I get from the
likes of Pinky et al....


There are plenty of silly little weans that want to control their
environments so that they can be safe from being upset. Anyone with half a
brain and an ounce of nous can see that you and Pinky each give as good as
you get, and that the mutual kickings are taken for the ascerbic ****-takes
that they are. The silly little weans that are scared to venture into big
bad usenet should learn to operate their killfiles.


Or, better yet, switch your telly on *right now* and tune into a
gardening programme - some **** has hacked a Firefly about to use as
a bloody garden ornament.....!!!


*******! (Phone the producers - there might be some cheap sails and rigging
going cheap!)


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk



Keith G December 10th 04 08:47 PM

If the cap fits
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
A group, I might add, that was formed with the intention of removing
acrimony and contention from this group and rendered immediately
pointless and futile by the inrush of the few 'antivinyl bigots' here
too stupid to realise: a) that it was in their best interests* and b)
they had won a form of victory and removed an unwanted topic from this
group.

Strange. I remember those from here who decided to read it extremely
helpful with advice on how to get the best out of vinyl. Once you
remove the 'versus' argument, why not?



Don't worry, the 'Brownie Point Stacking' exercise was noted from Day 1
by more than just me - but the mystery was, why on earth should people
who, by many previous admissions, follow a special interest into its
own group to do there (claimed) what they felt they couldn't do in here?


Now that's a change of tack.



It is??


First you're complaining of 'the inrush of a
few anti vinyl bigots, and now you're tacitly admitting they 'behaved'
themselves.



Compaining? Tacitly admitting??? Where *does* this all come from? Do you get
a lot of headaches, by any chance?



But as usual, you've missed the point.


Good - coming from you.


It's one thing to appreciate
obsolete technology, and to enjoy playing with it. It's another matter to
state in an open forum just how superior it is to current technology.



It is? Sez who?


When
by any measure - other than your 'ears' it plainly isn't, nor can it be
shown to be by any accepted comparisons.



It is? Sez who?

(What 'accepted comparisons'...???)


Have you actually made the Pinky MC pre-amp?



Huh?


I have. If you haven't, I'd
suggest you do. It out performs any valve MC pickup in every possible
parameter.


Forgive me if I let that pass me by.....


If you are serious about wanting the best performance from
vinyl.



Don't try that 'we have to insult you because we want you to get the best
from your vinyl' claptrap on me, it won't wash - my vinyl's *fine*, thank
you very much......


Me *own* this group? (What strange thinking!) How is that possible? -
I'm not on 'The Panel' and I never use the plural form to voice my
*personal* opinions....


It's not possible. But I'd say you would if you could...



You do??


And what you forget is that many of those you hate have been around here a
lot longer than you.



Hate? Where TF does all this crap come from? Gawd, it all goes on your funny
little head, dunnit? Are you feeling 'hated' than? - Is that why your posts
are so mean-spirited and sour...??

Would it help if I said I don't *hate* you? (I think you are a bitter little
****, but I don't 'hate' you....)

Anway, what's the point you are making - that I've been here only about 5
years or so means I should still be grateful for any snippets of wisdom 'The
Panel' (ie the *owners*) care to send my way?

(I got news for you, matey..... ;-)


But don't want to censor anyone's views - just debate
them. Dunno how you find that so hard to stomach.



I don't, I just like to pay people back who try to bully individuals in this
group. It happens all the time and it's being tried on Andy Evans even now.
Unfortunately for 'The Panel' here I think AE is well up to having all of
you for breakfast and he has a wicked wit (albeit a little 'wordy'), to
boot!!

:-))

Lemmee see, out of the half dozen people in my *immediate audio circle*
(friends and family) EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM prefers vinyl to CD (ie thinks
it's *better*)! What sort of percentage does that make? Do you think I give
a mosquito's fart what one or two nonentities in a public newsgroup like
this one thinks, by comparison....??

(I think it's time one or two of you got a leetle bit of a Reality Check
going.... :-)


Now, tell me summat Plowie - if I'm the only one 'out of the thousands
you read'** in your ****ter (as you intimated a day or two ago,
apparently), how come you are replying to my posts?? (Or, as 'one here'
likes to say rather a lot - are you *lying* again...??? ;-)


As I said it was only set for a given time.



Oh, **** me - you can't tell just how *relieved* I am to hear that!! ;-)

(What was it - a swift little 24 hour punishment then?? :-)


I like to see if anything has
changed. At least you haven't thrown one of your (sober) drunken wobblies
recently.



Sober/drunken?

Tell me, in this little La La Land of yours (where I am continually ****ed,
apparently) what am I wearing?

(Kato mask, fluffy bunny slippers, shower cap and a grubby mac??)

:-)

Wobblies?

(Believe me, you haven't seen me throw anything like a wobbly......!!)


Toys being thrown out of prams have no attraction to me -


Do you find this sort of ridiculous 'overstatement' satisfying to use? I
think it is a fairly weak 'debating tool' and prefer humour, light-hearted
****-take and occasionally a little modest 'understatement' myself....


although of course you have to accept it with some kids.



No you don't - you could just ignore it. (If you *could* ignore it, that
is.... :-)


:-)


** Really? Thousands....?????


Mind....


Boggle....


Boggled mind....


Looking at the numbers of individual authors in my newsreader at the
moment - and it is set to expire posts after 14 days - gives 876. So
thousands over a period of time is a reasonable estimate.



Whatever.....

Now, got anything interesting or amusing to say? My subscription here is
supposed to a 'hobbyist' (fun) thing, you know.....

:-)





Mike Gilmour December 10th 04 09:15 PM

If the cap fits
 

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:49:06 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Iain M Churches wrote:
My point is Don, that *we* the members of this group are keeping people
out by our churlish behaviour, and the influx of new blood (or old blood
for that matter:-) would add a new dimension.


I doubt it. Those who are 'put off' by the 'churlish behaviour' are likely
to be those who don't want their views challenged.

If you wish such a group - where say valvies can discuss their hobby and
make the most outrageous claims with impunity - then you need to set up a
group where that is in the charter.


Audio Asylum. Any discussion involving DBT, i.e. actually *proving*
the truth behind your opinions, is banned by the censors.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering


Not only Audio Asylum but RAHE..... it used to be the never ending thread
ZZZZzzzzzz



Keith G December 10th 04 09:21 PM

If the cap fits
 

"Wally" wrote in message
...
Keith G wrote:

To put it simply, stop whining, grow a thicker skin, and post
something on-topic.


I think you are missing his point Wally - he is saying that he is
aware that there are a number of people who refrain from joining in
here for fear of being unsulted or dragged into a slanging match and
that that is, ultimately, not good for this group. I happen to
agree...


I can assure you that I am entirely au-fait with the point. Discussion
forums veritably abound on the internet, and there are plenty of places
where the subject matter of ukra can be discussed in a safe, sterile,
butt-kissingly polite manner. This ng is part of *usenet*, and it has the
character that is quite typical of that arena - eclectic, informative,
funny, and provokingly no-holds-barred.



OK, that's an interesting view and not a little 'liberating'....


The fact that IMC doesn't like it isn't the group's problem, it's his.

His post is either a troll (in which case he's a sad ******* with
insufficient life with which to find something better to do), or he's a
rube
who needs to get out more.



Do you mean 'tube' (I queried this with Swim - she's a Doondunion)...??? ;-)



Basically, he can't handle the fact that there are people who's beliefs
regarding conduct differ from his. I for one will never kow-tow to any
****er's set of ethics other than my own - and I've never anyone with a
scrap of self-assertiveness that held a different view.



Even more 'liberating'.....


Sometimes, MC comes across as a self-righteous, holier-than-thou ****; but
one who doesn't actually have an argument. If he thinks he has, then he
should feel free to establish that the principle of normative ethics holds
for all men.



Nice use of the English Language, if I may say so - should keep that Urk
Morris quiet for a while.....


And, if he can't, he should shut the **** up about 'behaviour'
and get on with posting on-topic.



Oops, OK then - as you were!! ;-)



Now on the subject of growing a thicker skin, do you think you could
pass the same advice to one or two 'sensitive souls' here who don't
seem to be too comfortable when I give as good as I get from the
likes of Pinky et al....


There are plenty of silly little weans that want to control their
environments so that they can be safe from being upset. Anyone with half a
brain and an ounce of nous can see that you and Pinky each give as good as
you get, and that the mutual kickings are taken for the ascerbic
****-takes
that they are. The silly little weans that are scared to venture into big
bad usenet should learn to operate their killfiles.



OK, this really *has* been an interesting and liberating post.

I've been feeling bad here for a while now - Pinky kicks my arse and
nothing's said, I rip his tits off (and eat them) and suddenly there's a
whole load of shrieking and squealing in here and suddenly I'm the Bad Guy!
(Got me quite paranoid it did!! :-) And I've been spending far too much time
worrying about the 'tone' here than enjoying myself!!

Your view has, as I said, proved *most* liberating. I think I'll stop
worrying about the Screaming Queens and just have a bit of fun from now on -
as you state above, if anyone's too dim to use their killfiles then that's
their ****ing hard luck, innit?

:-)

(The interesting corollary is that I feel less inclined to sling Pinky back
into the ****ter too quickly, now that I've got 'permission' to have a bit
of fun with him....;-)




Or, better yet, switch your telly on *right now* and tune into a
gardening programme - some **** has hacked a Firefly about to use as
a bloody garden ornament.....!!!


*******! (Phone the producers - there might be some cheap sails and
rigging
going cheap!)


:-)

Not forgetting the lovely one-piece Ian Proctor ally mast!!

That prog's still on as I type (Monty Don) - or at least I think it is,
Swim's 'time-slipping' I believe and she's just said the the 'boat murderer'
is in the sodding lead atm...!!








Keith G December 10th 04 09:28 PM

If the cap fits
 

"Keith G" wrote


Or, better yet, switch your telly on *right now* and tune into a
gardening programme - some **** has hacked a Firefly about to use as
a bloody garden ornament.....!!!


*******! (Phone the producers - there might be some cheap sails and
rigging
going cheap!)


:-)

Not forgetting the lovely one-piece Ian Proctor ally mast!!

That prog's still on as I type (Monty Don) - or at least I think it is,
Swim's 'time-slipping' I believe and she's just said the the 'boat
murderer' is in the sodding lead atm...!!




Just been told the 'boat garden' just won!!!





Dave Plowman (News) December 10th 04 09:39 PM

If the cap fits
 
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Oh, feck me - don't tell me that **** still thinks he can teach his
betters how to speak proper English??


As wot u rite?

--
*Don't byte off more than you can view *

Dave Plowman London SW
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