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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 01:08:05 GMT, "Trevor Wilson"
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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 09:49:20 GMT, "Trevor Wilson"
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I still remember going out on the **** with Billy Connelly after
working in Forbes Music Shop in Dundee, back when Billy was just a bad
banjo player who told jokes to stop the crowd pelting him.... :-)

**I can name drop too.

I shared a few beers with Elle McPherson at a few of her dad's backyard
BBQs
a few years back. I also assisted the delightful Hayley Mills and her
equally delightful dad ("don't call me Sir, just call me John") with some
audio gear a few years back. That's about it for me.

Damn, I'll trade yours for mine any day! 'Sirens' is still one of my
favourite films................

**Heheh. She's a crook actress (and a smoker), but hey, who gives a ****?


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Trevor Wilson
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:29:59 +0100, Paul Dormer
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"Jim Lesurf" emitted :

Afraid I can't name-drop any famous people. However does it count that I
flew a few times on Concorde 001 long before the later versions went into
passenger service? :-)

I've stood on that plane!

I've stood *in* it!

d

Pearce Consulting
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:14:15 +0100, Paul Dormer
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"Don Pearce" emitted :

I recently bought a 575A to replace
my trusty 515 for movies, and on CD it's sonically indistinguishable
from the Meridian 588.

Convinced yourself of that.... haven't you.

"Expectation effect"? ;-)

No, level-matched DBT. The owner of the 588 wasn't happy! :-)

DBTs are not immune to expectation effect...

Provided they are used (as they should be) on subjects who expect to
hear a difference, then they are.

Why do you think DBTs should only be used with subjects who *expect*
to hear differences, Don?

Think about it. Take a bunch of subjects who say "there won't be a
difference" and you will get a bunch of random guesses, showing no
pattern. This will be the likely result whether there is actually a
difference or not.

But use subjects who believe there is a difference, and have some
personal investment in hearing one, and if there is a difference, it
will be found.

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

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Paul Dormer wrote:
"Stewart Pinkerton" emitted :

My conclusion? Dormouse is a failed wannabee

At what?

Life, clearly.

You so funny. Pity it doesn't make sense ("wannabee").

But of course it makes perfect sense. Dormer as the bee who wanna be
important.

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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:28:54 +0100, Jim Lesurf
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In article , Stewart
Pinkerton
wrote:

Damn, I'll trade yours for mine any day! 'Sirens' is still one of my
favourite films................

Afraid I can't name-drop any famous people. However does it count that I
flew a few times on Concorde 001 long before the later versions went into
passenger service? :-)

Yes, that counts. One of the contractors in our office is unbearably
smug about having won a free flight for the last day she flew.........

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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:52:14 GMT, "Trevor Wilson"
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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 01:08:05 GMT, "Trevor Wilson"
wrote:


"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 09:49:20 GMT, "Trevor Wilson"
wrote:

I still remember going out on the **** with Billy Connelly after
working in Forbes Music Shop in Dundee, back when Billy was just a bad
banjo player who told jokes to stop the crowd pelting him.... :-)

**I can name drop too.

I shared a few beers with Elle McPherson at a few of her dad's backyard
BBQs
a few years back. I also assisted the delightful Hayley Mills and her
equally delightful dad ("don't call me Sir, just call me John") with some
audio gear a few years back. That's about it for me.

Damn, I'll trade yours for mine any day! 'Sirens' is still one of my
favourite films................

**Heheh. She's a crook actress (and a smoker), but hey, who gives a ****?

Quite so, and I'm sure I could find a satisfactory scenario which
didn't involve me kissing an ashtray, but kept her occupied.......
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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

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In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote:
When the DVDR70 works (most of the time) I regard it as excellent. Found
it *very* useful for recording Proms from BBCTV4 via DTTV. Gives
excellent results in my opinion. However the occasional crashes are
annoying as they mean 'lost' recordings.

I'm surprised you don't just use your RPC with an Irlam i16 with digital
input. I've found mine - using a 35 quid IDE burner - pretty reliable.
With probably cheaper blanks. Of course, adding extra wiring is easy in
this house - perhaps yours is not.

--
*If tennis elbow is painful, imagine suffering with tennis balls *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 18:15:05 +0100, Paul Dormer
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"Don Pearce" emitted :

DBTs are not immune to expectation effect...

Provided they are used (as they should be) on subjects who expect to
hear a difference, then they are.

Why do you think DBTs should only be used with subjects who *expect*
to hear differences, Don?

Think about it. Take a bunch of subjects who say "there won't be a
difference" and you will get a bunch of random guesses, showing no
pattern. This will be the likely result whether there is actually a
difference or not.

Yes... I'm sure "expectation effect" can work like that. Thus we have
to be careful when taking advice from religious dogmatists, whether
they [allegedly] lean toward objectiveness or subjectiveness.

But use subjects who believe there is a difference, and have some
personal investment in hearing one, and if there is a difference, it
will be found.

Consider the seemingly innocuous subject of "bedside manner" and the
profound physiological influence this can have in medical DBTs. Those
who have strongly held predetermined opinions may unwittingly
influence the performance of subjects, and there is the question of
confidence that the test conditions are suitably analogous to the
real-world scenario. [The "it will be found" conclusion is rather
presumptuous and optimistic.]

Give me 200+ subjects who can detect no difference in properly
conducted unbiased trials, then we're talking...

The "bedside manner" thing is exactly why trials are made double
blind. The proctor administering the trial must be unaware of which is
which, otherwise he can influence the result - wittingly or not.

And of course if an adequately sized DBT fails to identify a
diffidence, why would it be presumptuous to conclude that there was no
difference?

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

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"Paul Dormer" wrote in message
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"Trevor Wilson" emitted :

**Heheh. She's a crook actress (and a smoker), but hey, who gives a ****?

Elle? ;-)

**Of course. Ms Mills is a health nut.


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Trevor Wilson
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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In article , Stewart
Pinkerton
wrote:

Damn, I'll trade yours for mine any day! 'Sirens' is still one of my
favourite films................

Afraid I can't name-drop any famous people. However does it count that I
flew a few times on Concorde 001 long before the later versions went into
passenger service? :-)

**It does in my book.


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Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au