I have a pair of Warfedale speakers that have worked great for 30+ years. I
love 'em !

However, one of the woofers has developed cracks/holes in the rubber
surround. I can see that there are plenty of (none uk) companies offering
generic repair kits but nothing that seems to exactly fit these units. Also,
most of them are offering foam surrounds, not rubber. The cones are 247 mm
dia and the frames are 302 mm. I don't know the model number of these units.
They were being sold as kits by Warfedale around 1975. Each kit contained 3
drivers (woofer, mid-range, tweeter) as well as crossover units and plans
for the enclosures.

Questions:

Any UK companies offering repair kits ?
Pros and cons of replacing the rubber surrounds with foam surrounds ?

Any ideas/suggestions appreciated.

Jo

On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 15:11:00 +0000, Jo burbled:

I have a pair of Warfedale speakers that have worked great for 30+ years.
I love 'em !

However, one of the woofers has developed cracks/holes in the rubber
surround. I can see that there are plenty of (none uk) companies offering
generic repair kits but nothing that seems to exactly fit these units.
Also, most of them are offering foam surrounds, not rubber. The cones are
247 mm dia and the frames are 302 mm. I don't know the model number of
these units. They were being sold as kits by Warfedale around 1975. Each
kit contained 3 drivers (woofer, mid-range, tweeter) as well as crossover
units and plans for the enclosures.

Questions:

Any UK companies offering repair kits ? Pros and cons of replacing the
rubber surrounds with foam surrounds ?

Any ideas/suggestions appreciated.


I've been looking for replacement foam surrounds for a couple of pretty
old 10" Peerless drivers. Not much in the uk is there? I considered
getting some from the states, but of course no-one specifies that a
particular size is suitable for Peerless drivers - I've no idea how
generic they are.

--
Mick
(no M$ software on here... :-) )
Web: http://www.nascom.info

"Jo" wrote in message
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I have a pair of Warfedale speakers that have worked great for 30+
years. I
love 'em !

However, one of the woofers has developed cracks/holes in the rubber
surround. I can see that there are plenty of (none uk) companies
offering
generic repair kits but nothing that seems to exactly fit these
units. Also,
most of them are offering foam surrounds, not rubber. The cones are
247 mm
dia and the frames are 302 mm. I don't know the model number of
these units.
They were being sold as kits by Warfedale around 1975. Each kit
contained 3
drivers (woofer, mid-range, tweeter) as well as crossover units and
plans
for the enclosures.

Questions:

Any UK companies offering repair kits ?
Pros and cons of replacing the rubber surrounds with foam surrounds
?

Any ideas/suggestions appreciated.

Jo








At a guess they may be 10" Super RSDD (that's roll surround doped
diaphragm)

Wharfedale (please observe the H) is now part of the IAG group based
in Huntingdon and IMSMC still repair old original kit - you can but
ask.

Otherwise try Castle Acoustics in Skipton. The Co. was set up - again
IMSMC - by a chap called Cliff Collinson who worked for Gilbert Briggs
at Wharfedale at about the time it was taken over by Rank and I think
had much to do with the design of the 8" and 10" RSDD drive units. As
Castle build their own units they may be able to help.


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com

In ,
harrogate2 typed:

At a guess they may be 10" Super RSDD (that's roll surround doped
diaphragm)


They are actually 12" units...did they do a 12" Super RSDD around 1975 ?

Wharfedale (please observe the H) is now part of the IAG group based
in Huntingdon and IMSMC still repair old original kit - you can but
ask.


Thanks, I would expect Wharfedale (with the 'h' ) to insist on doing the
repairs rather than sending out parts. I will try them. I'll check them out.
They may, at least, have some info on the driver specs.

Otherwise try Castle Acoustics in Skipton. The Co. was set up - again
IMSMC - by a chap called Cliff Collinson who worked for Gilbert Briggs
at Wharfedale at about the time it was taken over by Rank and I think
had much to do with the design of the 8" and 10" RSDD drive units. As
Castle build their own units they may be able to help.

Again. thanks for the lead.

Jo

In news mick typed:

I've been looking for replacement foam surrounds for a couple of
pretty old 10" Peerless drivers. Not much in the uk is there? I
considered getting some from the states, but of course no-one
specifies that a particular size is suitable for Peerless drivers -
I've no idea how generic they are.


As you say, nothing much in the UK. I found plenty of US sites selling foam
and rubber surrounds but none for my speakers, which have cone diameter 247
mm (9,72") The closest was 9.5" You may have better luck with your drivers.

I'm also thinking replacement drivers as an alternative but as I don't have
the original specs I'm unsure about what to look for. Apart from physical
dimensions all I know is that the voice coil is 5 ohm and that they were
considered to be near top of the range units at the time. They are hefty
die-cast units with massive magnets and voice coils around 4 " diameter.

Good luck with your Peerless drivers.

Jo

"Jo" wrote in message
...
In ,
harrogate2 typed:

At a guess they may be 10" Super RSDD (that's roll surround doped
diaphragm)


They are actually 12" units...did they do a 12" Super RSDD around
1975 ?

Wharfedale (please observe the H) is now part of the IAG group
based
in Huntingdon and IMSMC still repair old original kit - you can
but
ask.


Thanks, I would expect Wharfedale (with the 'h' ) to insist on doing
the
repairs rather than sending out parts. I will try them. I'll check
them out.
They may, at least, have some info on the driver specs.

Otherwise try Castle Acoustics in Skipton. The Co. was set up -
again
IMSMC - by a chap called Cliff Collinson who worked for Gilbert
Briggs
at Wharfedale at about the time it was taken over by Rank and I
think
had much to do with the design of the 8" and 10" RSDD drive units.
As
Castle build their own units they may be able to help.

Again. thanks for the lead.

Jo




The size was that of the cone, and as you stated your cone was 247mm
across I would make that a 10"?


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com

In ,
harrogate2 typed:
"Jo" wrote in message
...
In ,
harrogate2 typed:

At a guess they may be 10" Super RSDD (that's roll surround doped
diaphragm)


They are actually 12" units...did they do a 12" Super RSDD around
1975 ?

Wharfedale (please observe the H) is now part of the IAG group based
in Huntingdon and IMSMC still repair old original kit - you can but
ask.


Thanks, I would expect Wharfedale (with the 'h' ) to insist on doing
the repairs rather than sending out parts. I will try them. I'll
check them out. They may, at least, have some info on the driver
specs.

Otherwise try Castle Acoustics in Skipton. The Co. was set up -
again IMSMC - by a chap called Cliff Collinson who worked for
Gilbert Briggs at Wharfedale at about the time it was taken over by
Rank and I think had much to do with the design of the 8" and 10"
RSDD drive units. As Castle build their own units they may be able
to help.

Again. thanks for the lead.

Jo




The size was that of the cone, and as you stated your cone was 247mm
across I would make that a 10"?

I see, I'm used to the more conventional sizing, that of the frame. FYI, my
spakers may well be RS DD units, since I just saw them described as "with
square magnets", which mine have.

Jo

"Jo" wrote in message
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In ,
harrogate2 typed:
"Jo" wrote in message
...
In ,
harrogate2 typed:

At a guess they may be 10" Super RSDD (that's roll surround
doped
diaphragm)


They are actually 12" units...did they do a 12" Super RSDD around
1975 ?

Wharfedale (please observe the H) is now part of the IAG group
based
in Huntingdon and IMSMC still repair old original kit - you can
but
ask.


Thanks, I would expect Wharfedale (with the 'h' ) to insist on
doing
the repairs rather than sending out parts. I will try them. I'll
check them out. They may, at least, have some info on the driver
specs.

Otherwise try Castle Acoustics in Skipton. The Co. was set up -
again IMSMC - by a chap called Cliff Collinson who worked for
Gilbert Briggs at Wharfedale at about the time it was taken over
by
Rank and I think had much to do with the design of the 8" and
10"
RSDD drive units. As Castle build their own units they may be
able
to help.

Again. thanks for the lead.

Jo




The size was that of the cone, and as you stated your cone was
247mm
across I would make that a 10"?

I see, I'm used to the more conventional sizing, that of the frame.
FYI, my
spakers may well be RS DD units, since I just saw them described as
"with
square magnets", which mine have.

Jo


Actually, thinking about it you may be right. I don't remember a 12"
RSDD......


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com

On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 09:50:57 GMT, "harrogate2"
wrote:

I see, I'm used to the more conventional sizing, that of the frame.
FYI, my
spakers may well be RS DD units, since I just saw them described as
"with
square magnets", which mine have.

Jo


Actually, thinking about it you may be right. I don't remember a 12"
RSDD......


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com


I seem to remember there was a ten inch as well as an eight. I may be
wrong though - it is a long time ago.

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 09:50:57 GMT, "harrogate2"
wrote:

I see, I'm used to the more conventional sizing, that of the frame.
FYI, my
spakers may well be RS DD units, since I just saw them described as
"with
square magnets", which mine have.

Jo


Actually, thinking about it you may be right. I don't remember a 12"
RSDD......


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com


I seem to remember there was a ten inch as well as an eight. I may be
wrong though - it is a long time ago.

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Your memory's good. In the mid '70s Wharfedale had a Bronze 8/RS/DD, a Super
8/RS/DD and the Super 10/RS/DD They were all, as their model numbers
suggest, roll surround, double diaphragm.

S.