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Eiron February 19th 06 11:16 AM

A public apology to Andre Jute.
 
Andre Jute wrote:

So, let's see your apology, Eiron. In its absence I shall class you as
lying scum, the same way I do PinkoStinko.


I apologise for doubting that there was a complete circuit diagram available
of your KISS amplifier cum NiCad charger. It was here all the time:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/T...trafi-crct.jpg
How magnificent in its elegant simplicity! Truly a work of genius!
I particularly like the way it keeps four AA cells charged so your
digital camera is always ready in case a cynic doubts its existence.

--
Eiron

There's something scary about stupidity made coherent - Tom Stoppard.

Andre Jute February 19th 06 12:31 PM

A public apology to Andre Jute.
 

Eiron wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:

So, let's see your apology, Eiron. In its absence I shall class you as
lying scum, the same way I do PinkoStinko.


I apologise for doubting that there was a complete circuit diagram available
of your KISS amplifier cum NiCad charger. It was here all the time:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/T...trafi-crct.jpg


And here is a photo of the same amp built:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg
and on the net on 7 December 2004 at this reference:
http://www.allaudios.org/detail-9461307.html

How magnificent in its elegant simplicity! Truly a work of genius!


Thank you, Eiron. We can only try.

I particularly like the way it keeps four AA cells charged


Simplification, as you observe, is the hallmark of genius. That amp has
fewer parts than the so-called Gaincard (which sells for more than the
component cost of my KISS Amp 300B "UltraFi" the GainClones. It's
description is he
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/T...mp%20INDEX.htm

so your
digital camera is always ready in case a cynic doubts its existence.


So you too have noticed the fascist tendency of the naysayers on the
Usenet to demand proof of their negatives. That is an abrogation of the
human right to be innocent until proven guilty.

But never mind, I have proven Pinkerton grossly and knowingly guilty of
telling the same lie for a period of nearly fifteen months, while you,
his sockpuppet, have escaped by apologizing. A good outcome all round.
--
Eiron

There's something scary about stupidity made coherent - Tom Stoppard.


Indeed there is. I see it every time some dull clown fancies himself a
polemicist.

Andre Jute

And here, just for reference, is my original to which you are
responding:
****
Thanks, Eiron. You've just won me another 800 Euro in bets that some
sockpuppet would be dumb enough to claim I took the photos of the amp
recently.

Okay, you want a net reference as proof. Just for you, here is a photo
of the same amp:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg
on the net on 7 December 2004 at this reference:
http://www.allaudios.org/detail-9461307.html
And here is a description of how I made the potato amp by removing the
two 300B, just so clowns like you and Pinkerton can't claim it isn't
the same amp because the two 300B aren't sitting on it.
http://www.dvd-software.info/forums/ftopic27097.html
Read down a bit in this reference and you will find Pinkerton
commenting on 23 April 2005 on the photograph of an amp that he has
claimed many times since was not built. Pinkerton knew he was lying
when he repeatedly told his lie. Stewart Pinkerton is convicted out of
his own mouth of being lying scum.

We know Pinkerton owes me an apology, though of course he's such
uncivilized slime, I'm not holding my breath.

So, let's see your apology, Eiron. In its absence I shall class you as
lying scum, the same way I do PinkoStinko.

I reprint my original letter in this thread below. Thanks for helping
me prove my case point by point, Eiron, and of course for helping me
win a few bucks in bets! Come again, sport.

Andre Jute
Bring on the clowns. I like clowns. They crunch loudly when one steps
on them.

My original:

******
Here's a bit of usenet history that now has been running more than a
year:

Stewart Pinkerton claims that Andre Jute didn't build an amp.

Andre Jute repeatedly tells PinkoStinko the amp is built.

Still the scumball PinkoStinko calls Andre Jute a liar.

Andre Jute directs PinkoStinko to a photograph of the amp.

http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg


PinkoStinko refuses to accept the proof, claiming, "No such proof has
been offered, just another of your smoke and mirror deceptions." In his
own post, only a few lines below PinkoStinko's mindless denial
of reality and truth, we find the URL for the photograph of the amp
which PinkoStinko claims has not been built:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg


This stubborn, heated denial is all of a piece with what I have come to
think of as the Pinkerton Pathology, in which truth bears no relation
to the facts, anyone who tells Pinkerton the truth is abused as a liar
(another blatant example is in the quoted text below), anyone who holds



Pinkerton to his own statements is abused as liar, anyone who proves
from Pinkerton's own mouth that yesterday (or sometimes only minutes
ago) he said the opposite of what he now claims is abused as a liar.


Such a disconnection from objective reality is symptomatic of
psychopathology, an extreme form of the disassociation from congenial
society that Andy Evans already demonstrated goes with Pinkerton's
observable personality type.

Such a rejection of objective reality is well beyond jokes about
phrenology; it is very likely a disease and should be treated.

It of course also makes any opinion PinkoStinko offers on the objective
business of audio evaluation perfectly untrustworthy, as PinkoStinko
practises zero objectivity. Perhaps, in a moment of lucidity
PinkoStinko realized that he is lost to objectivity, which might
account for the squirming, hangdog way he tried to join me in the KISS
300B project on RAT late in 2004.


Andre Jute


Andre Jute February 19th 06 12:56 PM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 

flipper wrote:
On 18 Feb 2006 17:46:45 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:


Eiron wrote:
The problem, Andre, is that you claim the picture has been around for over a year:

Here's a photo that has been sitting there since
around a fortnight before you thought of your wretched KISASS travesty,
say 15 months:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg
None so blind as those who don't want to see, eh, Pinko?

Unfortunately there is no reference to that image on the internet before last
Wednesday
so you can't prove to the cynical Mr. Pinkerton that it was there a year ago.
Even more unfortunately, anyone can download the jpeg, check its properties and
see when you took the photograph.

--
Eiron

There's something scary about stupidity made coherent - Tom Stoppard.


Thanks, Eiron. You've just won me another 800 Euro in bets that some
sockpuppet would be dumb enough to claim I took the photos of the amp
recently.


He's just going by the properties stored in the jpg by, it would seem,
a Cannon Digital IXUS 300 camera when it took the picture at,
according to the properties, 1/60 sec, F/2.7, flash mode. subject
distance 459 mm, and time stamped 2/15/2006 12:21PM.


Thanks, Flipper; I see now. The only thing that was changed was the
resolution of the pic. I wanted to replace the small, netfriendly pic
on the net with a bigger one of the same for the usual creeps to perve
over. The high-res original pic is on a different computer, so I loaded
it from that computer back into the camera, carried the camera to the
computer with the broadband connection, then pasted the highres version
over the low-res version on the net to preserve the name. So a bunch of
date data was confused by being carelessly transferred. Big deal. There
is no difference except resolution: it is the same photo. Furthermore,
that photo is clearly of this amp:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg
which is on the net on 7 December 2004 at this reference:
http://www.allaudios.org/detail-9461307.html
and here is a description of how I made the potato amp by removing the
two 300B:
http://www.dvd-software.info/forums/ftopic27097.html
which tells you clearly that the photograph the little loudmouths are
muckraking about was taken first, that is before 7 December 2004!

All this information was in previous posts but the little suckerfish
you find on these conferences don't have any justification for wasting
oxygen except to put the worst possible interpretation on any tiny
little nit they can find.

This thread is about PinkoPsycho lying about the existence of that amp.
Read down a bit in the reference above and you will find Pinkerton
commenting on 23 April 2005 on the photograph of an amp that he has
claimed many times since was not built. Pinkerton knew he was lying
when he repeatedly told his lie. Stewart Pinkerton is convicted out of
his own mouth of being lying scum. Yet his sockpuppets entirely
overlook that unassailable provenance and instead try to convict me of
a mechanical glitch on an earlier photograph taken from a slightly
different angle. It's a smokescreen for the sickness of their hero, and
they know it.

Andre Jute


[email protected] February 19th 06 02:12 PM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 
McCOY, ANDREW; pseudonym of André Jute, (1945- )
* *The Meyeresco Helix (Grafton 0-586-07292-7, Sep '88 [Oct '88],
£3.50, 416pp, pb) Near-future thriller about a superhuman being. [Not
seen]


So, this is NOT you? Because if it is you, all your waffling is just
more fluff and flummery and you just hiding within your carefully
crafted fantasy world. That "pseudonym" note above was linked to your
pages, or I would never have found it. In any case, it is offered as to
why I indulge you by addressing you as "Mr. McCoy".

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Stewart Pinkerton February 19th 06 02:26 PM

Jute's lies multiply to Infinity - and beyond
 
On 18 Feb 2006 09:23:18 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:

Here's a bit of usenet history that now has been running more than a
year:


Indeed it has, so isn't it interesting that this photograph has
magically appeared just this week?

Stewart Pinkerton claims that Andre Jute didn't build an amp.


Correct - and not just me.

Andre Jute repeatedly tells PinkoStinko the amp is built.


Jute makes many fantastic claims - Munchausen Syndrome is like that.
And in fact, your claim above is in itself a lie, since you have
assiduously avoided stating as a fact that KISS existed, until last
week.

Still the scumball PinkoStinko calls Andre Jute a liar.


So does everyone else, because you keep telling obvious lies.

Andre Jute directs PinkoStinko to a photograph of the amp.
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg


Indeed, that is a photograph of an amplifier chassis with some
components visible on the top surface. Aside from the magical
appearance of the 300Bs on the top deck, it is in fact a photograph of
an earlier amplifier which you claimed was a 'development mule for the
KISS driver stage'. This amp does appear in the 'KISS project' pages
of your website, while the photograph above does not. Curious, no?

PinkoStinko refuses to accept the proof, claiming, "No such proof has
been offered, just another of your smoke and mirror deceptions."


It's certainly not proof that any such fully functional amplifier
existed a year ago.

In his own post, only a few lines below PinkoStinko's mindless denial
of reality and truth, we find the URL for the photograph of the amp
which PinkoStinko claims has not been built:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg


My claim predated the magical appearance of this photograph, more than
a *full year* after the event, which photograph is of course not
necessarily one of a fully functional amplifier. With Andrew Jute
McCoy, when he tells you that it's Tuesday, you automatically glance
at the calendar...........
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton February 19th 06 02:52 PM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 
On 18 Feb 2006 16:02:12 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:


Sander deWaal wrote:
" said:

Mr. McCoy:


(snip)

One wonders who this Mr McCoy is that Useless Wiecky keeps stalking.
His imaginary friend, perhaps, because he doesn't have any real
friends?


Have you forgotten that your real name is Andrew Jute McCoy, not the
pretentious frenchified abbreviation that you now affect?

--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton February 19th 06 03:01 PM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 
On 19 Feb 2006 05:56:21 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:


flipper wrote:
On 18 Feb 2006 17:46:45 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:


Eiron wrote:
The problem, Andre, is that you claim the picture has been around for over a year:

Here's a photo that has been sitting there since
around a fortnight before you thought of your wretched KISASS travesty,
say 15 months:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg
None so blind as those who don't want to see, eh, Pinko?

Unfortunately there is no reference to that image on the internet before last
Wednesday
so you can't prove to the cynical Mr. Pinkerton that it was there a year ago.
Even more unfortunately, anyone can download the jpeg, check its properties and
see when you took the photograph.

--
Eiron

There's something scary about stupidity made coherent - Tom Stoppard.

Thanks, Eiron. You've just won me another 800 Euro in bets that some
sockpuppet would be dumb enough to claim I took the photos of the amp
recently.


He's just going by the properties stored in the jpg by, it would seem,
a Cannon Digital IXUS 300 camera when it took the picture at,
according to the properties, 1/60 sec, F/2.7, flash mode. subject
distance 459 mm, and time stamped 2/15/2006 12:21PM.


Thanks, Flipper; I see now. The only thing that was changed was the
resolution of the pic. I wanted to replace the small, netfriendly pic
on the net with a bigger one of the same for the usual creeps to perve
over. The high-res original pic is on a different computer, so I loaded
it from that computer back into the camera, carried the camera to the
computer with the broadband connection, then pasted the highres version
over the low-res version on the net to preserve the name. So a bunch of
date data was confused by being carelessly transferred. Big deal. There
is no difference except resolution: it is the same photo.


And there *are* fairies at the bottom of your garden. If you're going
to lie, at least try to do it convincingly. The date stamp tells when
the photograph was taken, not when (if it ever was) the photo was
edited.

Furthermore,
that photo is clearly of this amp:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg
which is on the net on 7 December 2004 at this reference:
http://www.allaudios.org/detail-9461307.html
and here is a description of how I made the potato amp by removing the
two 300B:
http://www.dvd-software.info/forums/ftopic27097.html
which tells you clearly that the photograph the little loudmouths are
muckraking about was taken first, that is before 7 December 2004!


It tells you nothing of the sort.

All this information was in previous posts but the little suckerfish
you find on these conferences don't have any justification for wasting
oxygen except to put the worst possible interpretation on any tiny
little nit they can find.


Interesting that you have never before produced this 'evidence'...

This thread is about PinkoPsycho lying about the existence of that amp.
Read down a bit in the reference above and you will find Pinkerton
commenting on 23 April 2005 on the photograph of an amp that he has
claimed many times since was not built. Pinkerton knew he was lying
when he repeatedly told his lie. Stewart Pinkerton is convicted out of
his own mouth of being lying scum.


Bull****, and you know it, you pathetic psychopath.

Yet his sockpuppets entirely
overlook that unassailable provenance and instead try to convict me of
a mechanical glitch on an earlier photograph taken from a slightly
different angle. It's a smokescreen for the sickness of their hero, and
they know it.


I don't have sockpuppets, that's one of *your* specialties, because no
real person will swallow your constant bull****ting.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

[email protected] February 19th 06 03:12 PM

A public apology to Andre Jute.
 
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg

Right-click on the image.

Funny thing. The "properties" show that this image was both created and
modified on February 18, 2006. No images (so far) or links to images
with a date prior to the 18th of this month. Just words.

Mr. McCoy does pride himself on his words....

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


[email protected] February 19th 06 07:53 PM

A public apology to Andre Jute.
 

wrote:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg

Right-click on the image.

Funny thing. The "properties" show that this image was both created and
modified on February 18, 2006. No images (so far) or links to images
with a date prior to the 18th of this month. Just words.

Mr. McCoy does pride himself on his words....

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


If he's the genius he claims to be, I'm sure he'll figure out the
way to give any photograph the properties needed to
support any claims.
Perhaps a copy of the newspaper the day it was taken included
in the background of the next series of authentication photos.
How does it charge batteries from AC?
Neat schematic.
True genius.


Andre Jute February 19th 06 08:49 PM

A public apology to Andre Jute.
 

wrote:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg

Right-click on the image.

Funny thing. The "properties" show that this image was both created and
modified on February 18, 2006. No images (so far) or links to images
with a date prior to the 18th of this month. Just words.


Let's see. The image you say was created yesterday was referenced on
the net on 7 December 2004 at this reference:
http://www.allaudios.org/detail-9461307.html
and on RAT on 7 and 9 December 2004
http://groups.google.ie/group/rec.au...0 398798b8cfd
and here on 23 April 2005 Stewart Pinkerton himself comments on it:
http://www.dvd-software.info/forums/ftopic27097.html
Everyone on RAT has seen that image for years now (looks from the
copyright information that I made it in 2003...). Copies of it have
been sitting on Mick's site here
http://www.geocities.com/mixtel99/index.html
since 2003 or 2004 or whatever, too long ago to remember, and on John
Byrns's site here
http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/MZamp.jpg
since 2003 or 2004 or whatever, too long ago to remember.

That picture, so widely distributed, showing the amp under
construction, complete and in use with horns, is all the proof required
that you, Useless Wiecky, are a liar and that Stewart Pinkerton is an
habitual liar.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Useless Wiecky of Wyncote, PA, which must be very embarrassed to own up
to such a blind, deaf, hypocritical clown who is so easily exposed as a
liar.

Unsigned out of contempt for lying scum



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