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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:04:49 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Ah, oops....

Swims bath oils and my AT-OC5 turned up this morning (fabulous condition,
c/w fixings, screwdriver, brush etc), now I'm sweating on a Technics DD
deck
where I *know* the seller hasn't removed the sodding platter (like I
asked)
and a*mint* (?) Technics AM/FM tuner.....


**Cyrus II owners eat yer hearts out!! :-P

The Cyrus has a lovely MC input that would suit that OC5 perfectly.


:-)


What's the situation with that new amp?


Only a ratty ss MM phono stage which ain't *that* quiet but which I hope
will allow me to record LPs to HDD without punching the meters through the
roof at virtually zero volume setting like I've been getting with the valve
phono stages!!

If I wanted to use the MC carts I'd have to use the *utterly silent* Orto
MCA-76 stepup that the beezer geezer Dave Whitter very kindly gave me (and
which is usually partnered with my *superb* Orto MC200 ultra low output MC
cart) !!

Ho hum....

:-P


Now, for all you snobby buggers that turn your noses up at 'universal
headshells', check this out:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AT-OC5.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/ATfixings.JPG

This cart was originally supplied on one, from what I can see of it!! -
Although I've had to fit it to one of my own!!



No heart-eating going on here - my Cyrus II performs very nicely and I
won't be buying any new amps for a long time to come. :-P


Me neither, I suppose.....

(Miserable innit?? :-)

Now, where's this bloody deck and tuner got to? I'm shackled to the bloody
front door - I don't want that deck going round the loop any more than is
absolutely necessary with the bloody platter *not* removed!!

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On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:47:43 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:04:49 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Ah, oops....

Swims bath oils and my AT-OC5 turned up this morning (fabulous condition,
c/w fixings, screwdriver, brush etc), now I'm sweating on a Technics DD
deck
where I *know* the seller hasn't removed the sodding platter (like I
asked)
and a*mint* (?) Technics AM/FM tuner.....


**Cyrus II owners eat yer hearts out!! :-P

The Cyrus has a lovely MC input that would suit that OC5 perfectly.


:-)


What's the situation with that new amp?


Only a ratty ss MM phono stage which ain't *that* quiet but which I hope
will allow me to record LPs to HDD without punching the meters through the
roof at virtually zero volume setting like I've been getting with the valve
phono stages!!

So you will be using it with another of your collection, then?

If I wanted to use the MC carts I'd have to use the *utterly silent* Orto
MCA-76 stepup that the beezer geezer Dave Whitter very kindly gave me (and
which is usually partnered with my *superb* Orto MC200 ultra low output MC
cart) !!

Ho hum....

:-P


Now, for all you snobby buggers that turn your noses up at 'universal
headshells', check this out:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AT-OC5.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/ATfixings.JPG

This cart was originally supplied on one, from what I can see of it!! -
Although I've had to fit it to one of my own!!


My arm has a fixed head shell - I've owned it for nearly forty years
and I suspect it is yet another bit of kit that will see me out quite
comfortably.



No heart-eating going on here - my Cyrus II performs very nicely and I
won't be buying any new amps for a long time to come. :-P


Me neither, I suppose.....

(Miserable innit?? :-)

Now, where's this bloody deck and tuner got to? I'm shackled to the bloody
front door - I don't want that deck going round the loop any more than is
absolutely necessary with the bloody platter *not* removed!!


You've really decided that the worst case scenario is going to happen.
You might get a nice surprise and find two huge bundles of bubble wrap
in there.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

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"Don Pearce" wrote


What's the situation with that new amp?


Only a ratty ss MM phono stage which ain't *that* quiet but which I hope
will allow me to record LPs to HDD without punching the meters through the
roof at virtually zero volume setting like I've been getting with the
valve
phono stages!!

So you will be using it with another of your collection, then?



Cartridges? Yes, I like the M75ED2 as much as anything for making MP3s -
tracks nice and quiet and creates a sound which is 'punchy' rather than
refined and plays back nicely from the computer. You might remember the
comparisons from a year or two back - one or two people picked the humble
(but excellent) AT95E as being as good as anything?? (Not many people picked
the V15/5!!)



This cart was originally supplied on one, from what I can see of it!! -
Although I've had to fit it to one of my own!!


My arm has a fixed head shell - I've owned it for nearly forty years
and I suspect it is yet another bit of kit that will see me out quite
comfortably.


That's also good. I like to fart around with the headshells - it's part of
the fun for me!!

Here's the new kid on the go:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AT-OC5%202.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AT-OC5%203.JPG

(I prefer no flash - don't show the dust!! :-)


Now, where's this bloody deck and tuner got to? I'm shackled to the bloody
front door - I don't want that deck going round the loop any more than is
absolutely necessary with the bloody platter *not* removed!!


You've really decided that the worst case scenario is going to happen.
You might get a nice surprise and find two huge bundles of bubble wrap
in there.


I put a note in the Paypal asking for the platter to be removed and the
tonearm be tied down (the included cart makes this deck a bit of a bargain).
The seller - no newbie, see:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1

emailed to say it was sent well-wrapped and the tonearm was tied down but he
couldn't get the platter off!

I told him there's two ways to get a stubborn platter off: 1) pull upwards
on the platter and get someone to rap the spindle smartly wiv a stick, 2)
put the whole thing in the post.....

;-)

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emailed to say it was sent well-wrapped and the tonearm was tied down but
he couldn't get the platter off!

I told him there's two ways to get a stubborn platter off: 1) pull upwards
on the platter and get someone to rap the spindle smartly wiv a stick, 2)
put the whole thing in the post.....

;-)

As I recall, the turntable bearings on those old DDs were pretty
substantial, and so should travel reasonably well even if not removed. I
would be a LOT more worried if he doesn't remove the arm counterweight.
Whether the arm is strapped down tight or not, there's a lot of energy that
has to be dissipated with every drop of the box, and arm bearings are not
the most rugged. I've seen arms completely ruined by being shipped with the
counterweight still attached.

S.

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On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:00:47 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote


What's the situation with that new amp?


Only a ratty ss MM phono stage which ain't *that* quiet but which I hope
will allow me to record LPs to HDD without punching the meters through the
roof at virtually zero volume setting like I've been getting with the
valve
phono stages!!

So you will be using it with another of your collection, then?



Cartridges? Yes, I like the M75ED2 as much as anything for making MP3s -
tracks nice and quiet and creates a sound which is 'punchy' rather than
refined and plays back nicely from the computer. You might remember the
comparisons from a year or two back - one or two people picked the humble
(but excellent) AT95E as being as good as anything?? (Not many people picked
the V15/5!!)


I remember - I suspect the V15 thing was some sort of basic
incompatibility with the arm. I'd never heard one sound that way
before. The M75ED2 is a good cart, though.



This cart was originally supplied on one, from what I can see of it!! -
Although I've had to fit it to one of my own!!


My arm has a fixed head shell - I've owned it for nearly forty years
and I suspect it is yet another bit of kit that will see me out quite
comfortably.


That's also good. I like to fart around with the headshells - it's part of
the fun for me!!

Here's the new kid on the go:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AT-OC5%202.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AT-OC5%203.JPG

(I prefer no flash - don't show the dust!! :-)


Looks just like mine! (my OC9, that is)


Now, where's this bloody deck and tuner got to? I'm shackled to the bloody
front door - I don't want that deck going round the loop any more than is
absolutely necessary with the bloody platter *not* removed!!


You've really decided that the worst case scenario is going to happen.
You might get a nice surprise and find two huge bundles of bubble wrap
in there.


I put a note in the Paypal asking for the platter to be removed and the
tonearm be tied down (the included cart makes this deck a bit of a bargain).
The seller - no newbie, see:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1

emailed to say it was sent well-wrapped and the tonearm was tied down but he
couldn't get the platter off!

I told him there's two ways to get a stubborn platter off: 1) pull upwards
on the platter and get someone to rap the spindle smartly wiv a stick, 2)
put the whole thing in the post.....

;-)

With luck he will have wrapped some gaffer tape round to stop the
platter shifting in the post.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

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"Serge Auckland" wrote in message
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emailed to say it was sent well-wrapped and the tonearm was tied down but
he couldn't get the platter off!

I told him there's two ways to get a stubborn platter off: 1) pull
upwards on the platter and get someone to rap the spindle smartly wiv a
stick, 2) put the whole thing in the post.....

;-)

As I recall, the turntable bearings on those old DDs were pretty
substantial, and so should travel reasonably well even if not removed.


It's not the bearing I'm worried about - if the platter comes off in transit
that's the tonearm, cart and lid gone as well as the top of the deck
probably scarred!!


I
would be a LOT more worried if he doesn't remove the arm counterweight.
Whether the arm is strapped down tight or not, there's a lot of energy
that has to be dissipated with every drop of the box, and arm bearings are
not the most rugged. I've seen arms completely ruined by being shipped
with the counterweight still attached.


Yes, you're not wrong and also trap a sheet of bubble wrap under the lid to
prevent it chafing shiny spots on the corners of the deck! The trouble is,
it seems there's only so much you can ask of anyone who is not looking to
make a fortune on a sale like this!

I feel a 'Notes To eBay Sellers' webpage coming on....!!

(The cart I got this morning not only had sellotape holding the stylus guard
on, it had a strip of waxy paper over the top of the cartridge to prevent it
sticking to the sellotape!!)

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"Don Pearce" wrote


I remember - I suspect the V15 thing was some sort of basic
incompatibility with the arm. I'd never heard one sound that way
before.


???

I forget which deck I wa using for those comparisons - might have been the
SL1210....


The M75ED2 is a good cart, though.


Yep. A good all-rounder for most 'modern music'!!


Looks just like mine! (my OC9, that is)


It's sounding absolutely fine - very 'full bodied'!! I wonder what the
difference is? The seller has said this in an email exchange this morning:

"I am glad to hear that the cartridge checks out ok, I upgraded to an
AT-OC9ml (via a Dynavector DV20XL) on the strength of this cartridge and to
be honest the OC-5 is not a million miles, sound wise from the OC9."

??


I told him there's two ways to get a stubborn platter off: 1) pull upwards
on the platter and get someone to rap the spindle smartly wiv a stick, 2)
put the whole thing in the post.....

;-)

With luck he will have wrapped some gaffer tape round to stop the
platter shifting in the post.


He said he had 'prevented it from moving about' (or somesuch) - probably
whanged a 4 inch cut nail through it!! :-)

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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Don Pearce" wrote


I remember - I suspect the V15 thing was some sort of basic
incompatibility with the arm. I'd never heard one sound that way
before.


???

I forget which deck I wa using for those comparisons - might have been the
SL1210....


The M75ED2 is a good cart, though.


Yep. A good all-rounder for most 'modern music'!!


Looks just like mine! (my OC9, that is)


It's sounding absolutely fine - very 'full bodied'!! I wonder what the
difference is? The seller has said this in an email exchange this morning:

"I am glad to hear that the cartridge checks out ok, I upgraded to an
AT-OC9ml (via a Dynavector DV20XL) on the strength of this cartridge and
to
be honest the OC-5 is not a million miles, sound wise from the OC9."

??


I told him there's two ways to get a stubborn platter off: 1) pull
upwards
on the platter and get someone to rap the spindle smartly wiv a stick, 2)
put the whole thing in the post.....

;-)

With luck he will have wrapped some gaffer tape round to stop the
platter shifting in the post.


He said he had 'prevented it from moving about' (or somesuch) - probably
whanged a 4 inch cut nail through it!! :-)

That would do it!

S.

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On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:32:11 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


Looks just like mine! (my OC9, that is)


It's sounding absolutely fine - very 'full bodied'!! I wonder what the
difference is? The seller has said this in an email exchange this morning:

"I am glad to hear that the cartridge checks out ok, I upgraded to an
AT-OC9ml (via a Dynavector DV20XL) on the strength of this cartridge and to
be honest the OC-5 is not a million miles, sound wise from the OC9."

??

Well, the ml stylus of the OC9 should be a bit kinder to the groove,
although it obviously will hit more defects. I suspect the internals
of the cartridge itself are pretty similar.



I told him there's two ways to get a stubborn platter off: 1) pull upwards
on the platter and get someone to rap the spindle smartly wiv a stick, 2)
put the whole thing in the post.....

;-)

With luck he will have wrapped some gaffer tape round to stop the
platter shifting in the post.


He said he had 'prevented it from moving about' (or somesuch) - probably
whanged a 4 inch cut nail through it!! :-)


Well, if he has, I hope he turned it over and hammered the sharp end
flat on the other side, or it might drop out and do more damage.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:32:11 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


Looks just like mine! (my OC9, that is)


It's sounding absolutely fine - very 'full bodied'!! I wonder what the
difference is? The seller has said this in an email exchange this morning:

"I am glad to hear that the cartridge checks out ok, I upgraded to an
AT-OC9ml (via a Dynavector DV20XL) on the strength of this cartridge and
to
be honest the OC-5 is not a million miles, sound wise from the OC9."

??

Well, the ml stylus of the OC9 should be a bit kinder to the groove,
although it obviously will hit more defects. I suspect the internals
of the cartridge itself are pretty similar.


OK. Usually the case with various manufacturers....


He said he had 'prevented it from moving about' (or somesuch) - probably
whanged a 4 inch cut nail through it!! :-)


Well, if he has, I hope he turned it over and hammered the sharp end
flat on the other side, or it might drop out and do more damage.


Sure, but in the interests of, er, *accuracy* 'cut nails' don't have 'sharp
ends'!!

http://www.vandykes.com/product/02220933/

;-)

(Bloody sharp edges though!!)