"Roy" x@y wrote in message ...
Keith G wrote:
...so it must be true!



What was interesting was the young lad on the TV prog said what he like
about the singles was the physical aspect of having something to see and
hold! (As opposed to the 'virtual music' of the iPods!) PG also said
summat like playing a record involved the visual sense and watching the
record play was an important part of the experience!!


So nothing to do with the quality of the sound then?


Not particularly, it would seem. The news report was very brief but the
point the lad was making was that it's better to have something *physical*
to play than mere files on the iPod things. FWIW, I concur..

But what are you saying - vinyl singles, the 'wireless' and, say, 256K MP3s
don't sound good? (Especially to someone who's not hung up on ''accuracy'
&c.....?)

What do you listen to:

Out jogging?
At work?
In the bathroom?
In the kitchen?
In the toilet?
In the car?
On a train/bus/plane?
In the shed/garage/workshop?
In the garden?*
On holiday?

(Did I miss anything...?? :-)


* shudder....

Keith G wrote:
"Roy" x@y wrote in message ...
Keith G wrote:
...so it must be true!

What was interesting was the young lad on the TV prog said what he like
about the singles was the physical aspect of having something to see and
hold! (As opposed to the 'virtual music' of the iPods!) PG also said
summat like playing a record involved the visual sense and watching the
record play was an important part of the experience!!

So nothing to do with the quality of the sound then?


Not particularly, it would seem. The news report was very brief but the
point the lad was making was that it's better to have something *physical*
to play than mere files on the iPod things. FWIW, I concur..

Well as my eyesight gets worse with age, I do concede the superior
"handleability" of LPs (well if you want to read the sleeve notes anyhow).


But what are you saying - vinyl singles, the 'wireless' and, say, 256K MP3s
don't sound good? (Especially to someone who's not hung up on ''accuracy'
&c.....?)

What do you listen to:

Out jogging?

Nothing

At work?

Nothing

In the bathroom?

My own singing

In the kitchen?

Anything via the open doors from the living room

In the toilet?

See bathroom

In the car?

Radio or CD (though the acoustic of the average car makes the source
medium pretty immaterial)

On a train/bus/plane?

iPOD

In the shed/garage/workshop?

Nothing

In the garden?*

Nothing

On holiday?

Usually nothing though sometimes iPOD


(Did I miss anything...?? :-)

The living room (where I do most of my listening).
Usually CD with the exception of my LP collection, Radio 3, sometimes
iTunes on the Mac or iPOD via the hi-fi.

Roy.

"Roy" x@y wrote in message ...
Keith G wrote:
"Roy" x@y wrote in message ...
Keith G wrote:


But what are you saying - vinyl singles, the 'wireless' and, say, 256K
MP3s don't sound good? (Especially to someone who's not hung up on
''accuracy' &c.....?)

What do you listen to:

Out jogging?

Nothing


OK...


At work?

Nothing


OK... :-(


In the bathroom?

My own singing


See below...


In the kitchen?

Anything via the open doors from the living room


Ditto....



In the toilet?

See bathroom


Busted lock? :-)



In the car?

Radio or CD (though the acoustic of the average car makes the source
medium pretty immaterial)


Ditto but I think it can sound very good. (Car radio/CD isn't anything
special, though....)


On a train/bus/plane?

iPOD


OK. Nice quiet headphones I trust?


In the shed/garage/workshop?

Nothing


Whaaat? No Roberts radio?? (Bugger, I'd slash a wrist...!!)


In the garden?*

Nothing


Good - same here...


On holiday?

Usually nothing though sometimes iPOD


OK.



(Did I miss anything...?? :-)

The living room (where I do most of my listening).
Usually CD with the exception of my LP collection, Radio 3, sometimes
iTunes on the Mac or iPOD via the hi-fi.


OK - fine by me....!! ;-)

Keith G wrote:
"Roy" x@y wrote in message ...
Keith G wrote:

In the toilet?
See bathroom


Busted lock? :-)

No, the foot up agin the door sorts that one out. It's just got great
acoustics.



In the car?
Radio or CD (though the acoustic of the average car makes the source
medium pretty immaterial)


Ditto but I think it can sound very good. (Car radio/CD isn't anything
special, though....)

I agree in my current motor it's a lot better than I've had before - but
it's still not conducive to hi-fi.


On a train/bus/plane?
iPOD


OK. Nice quiet headphones I trust?

Eh? I thought the rest of the carriage wanted to hear the Foo Fighters.


In the shed/garage/workshop?
Nothing


Whaaat? No Roberts radio?? (Bugger, I'd slash a wrist...!!)

I can be in and out of anything resembling a workshop before the intro's
over.


Roy.

In article ,
Roy x@y wrote:
What was interesting was the young lad on the TV prog said what he
like about the singles was the physical aspect of having something to
see and hold! (As opposed to the 'virtual music' of the iPods!) PG
also said summat like playing a record involved the visual sense and
watching the record play was an important part of the experience!!


So nothing to do with the quality of the sound then?

Of course not. If they are proper 45s, they are made out of the cheapest
re-cycled vinyl and mastered by the tea boy.

--
*If I worked as much as others, I would do as little as they *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Roy x@y wrote:
What was interesting was the young lad on the TV prog said what he
like about the singles was the physical aspect of having something to
see and hold! (As opposed to the 'virtual music' of the iPods!) PG
also said summat like playing a record involved the visual sense and
watching the record play was an important part of the experience!!


So nothing to do with the quality of the sound then?

Of course not. If they are proper 45s, they are made out of the cheapest
re-cycled vinyl and mastered by the tea boy.


Depends on the particular disc. Some have been mastered by top flight
mastering engineers and pressed on premium virgin vinyl.

Scott

In article om,
wrote:
Of course not. If they are proper 45s, they are made out of the
cheapest re-cycled vinyl and mastered by the tea boy.


Depends on the particular disc. Some have been mastered by top flight
mastering engineers and pressed on premium virgin vinyl.

I was referring to 'proper' 45s. ;-) Modern ones will just be another
teenage fashion.

--
*Welcome to **** Creek - sorry, we're out of paddles*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article om,
wrote:
Of course not. If they are proper 45s, they are made out of the
cheapest re-cycled vinyl and mastered by the tea boy.


Depends on the particular disc. Some have been mastered by top flight
mastering engineers and pressed on premium virgin vinyl.

I was referring to 'proper' 45s. ;-)

As opposed to improper ones???

Scott

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Roy x@y wrote:
What was interesting was the young lad on the TV prog said what he
like about the singles was the physical aspect of having something to
see and hold! (As opposed to the 'virtual music' of the iPods!) PG
also said summat like playing a record involved the visual sense and
watching the record play was an important part of the experience!!


So nothing to do with the quality of the sound then?

Of course not. If they are proper 45s, they are made out of the cheapest
re-cycled vinyl and mastered by the tea boy.

And that's from the man who has never mastered a disc in his life.
So he should know:-)

In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
Of course not. If they are proper 45s, they are made out of the
cheapest re-cycled vinyl and mastered by the tea boy.

And that's from the man who has never mastered a disc in his life.
So he should know:-)

So you considered pop single 45s in their heyday generally to be of the
highest quality, Iain?

And you are/were actually employed as a mastering engineer?

--
*Thank you. We're all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.