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Stephen Worth November 12th 06 07:14 PM

Independent View Of LP versus CD
 
In article , Arny Krueger
wrote:

Trouble is, $250 isn't what it costs to put together a credible vinyl setup,
following the instructions above.


Look for Dual 1218, 1219. 1228s or 1229 if you want a good
turntable for less money. Riga and Thorens are well known and
sell for more at ebay, although you can find them at swap meets
and thrift stores for less. But there are LOTS of good 70s turntables
out there, many of them selling for $50 to $100.

See ya
Steve

--
Rare 78 rpm recordings on CD! http://www.vintageip.com/records/
Building a museum and archive of animation! http://www.animationarchive.org/
The Quest for the BEST HOTDOG in Los Angeles! http://www.hotdogspot.com/
Rediscovering great stuff from the past! http://www.vintagetips.com/


Stephen Worth November 12th 06 07:18 PM

Independent View Of LP versus CD
 
In article , Jim Lesurf
wrote:

A) have been made using various non-RIAA pre-emphasis curves. So requiring
a rather flexible correct network for replay, and some suitable knowledge
or judgement on the part of the user. On this basis a normal 'good preamp'
may not suffice. (Unless the aim is to sample the results and then correct
them in the digital domain.)

B) may not actually be '78 rpm'. So may also require the replay speed to be
alterable, by ear. (Or, as above, be corrected once sampled.)


The Dual turntables I mentioned above have pitch control and
interchangable headshells. That's what I use for 78s. If you are
going to play 78s, you need a good graphic equalizer and two
or three sizes of stylii. That's a bit more expensive, but not
terribly so.

See ya
Steve

--
Rare 78 rpm recordings on CD! http://www.vintageip.com/records/
Building a museum and archive of animation! http://www.animationarchive.org/
The Quest for the BEST HOTDOG in Los Angeles! http://www.hotdogspot.com/
Rediscovering great stuff from the past! http://www.vintagetips.com/


Stephen Worth November 12th 06 07:30 PM

Independent View Of LP versus CD
 
In article , Arny Krueger
wrote:

Mr. Worth always seems to put on his rose-colored glasses when he talks
about vinyl. ;-)


Mr Worth is speaking from experience. When I first got into 78s, I
put together a great rig to play them for about $300. My audio
workstation for denoising and mastering cost a fortune to put
together, but the basic equipment to play records isn't expensive.
People just keep trying to make it more complicated than it is.

Here is an example of a low cost, good sounding system...

Dual 1228 ($75 to $100)
Used 70s preamp with phono input ($40)
New cartridge ($50)

To play 78s with this turntable add...

15 band graphic equalizer ($50)
3 mil conical cartridge and headshell ($125)

This rig will play just about anything you ask it to (Except for
Pathe hill and dale records) You can add cartridges mounted
on headshells with more stylii sizes to get better sound quality
with some 78s as you can afford it, but a 3 mil conical will
play 80% of all of the 78s out there with good sound.

See ya
Steve

--
Rare 78 rpm recordings on CD! http://www.vintageip.com/records/
Building a museum and archive of animation! http://www.animationarchive.org/
The Quest for the BEST HOTDOG in Los Angeles! http://www.hotdogspot.com/
Rediscovering great stuff from the past! http://www.vintagetips.com/


Stephen Worth November 12th 06 07:32 PM

Independent View Of LP versus CD
 
In article , News
wrote:

Is it? What is great to you may be rubbish to others. If there was a
commercial opening for this 'great' music it would have been released on
CD, in the main.


Now you are proving to be ignorant of both music and the record
business.

See ya
Steve

--
Rare 78 rpm recordings on CD! http://www.vintageip.com/records/
Building a museum and archive of animation! http://www.animationarchive.org/
The Quest for the BEST HOTDOG in Los Angeles! http://www.hotdogspot.com/
Rediscovering great stuff from the past! http://www.vintagetips.com/


Stephen Worth November 12th 06 07:34 PM

Independent View Of LP versus CD
 
In article , News
wrote:

I'm sure there is material never released on LP too - 78 rpm only.


I can vouch for that. There are amazing treasures on 78 that you
will never hear if you only own a CD player.

See ya
Steve

--
Rare 78 rpm recordings on CD! http://www.vintageip.com/records/
Building a museum and archive of animation! http://www.animationarchive.org/
The Quest for the BEST HOTDOG in Los Angeles! http://www.hotdogspot.com/
Rediscovering great stuff from the past! http://www.vintagetips.com/


Dave Plowman (News) November 12th 06 10:57 PM

Independent View Of LP versus CD
 
In article ,
Stephen Worth wrote:
I'm sure there is material never released on LP too - 78 rpm only.


I can vouch for that. There are amazing treasures on 78 that you
will never hear if you only own a CD player


Or 33/45 rpm only turntable - as by far the majority are.

I'm sure there's some 'treasures' on cylinders too.

--
*Why is the third hand on the watch called a second hand?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) November 12th 06 10:58 PM

Independent View Of LP versus CD
 
In article ,
Stephen Worth wrote:
Is it? What is great to you may be rubbish to others. If there was a
commercial opening for this 'great' music it would have been released
on CD, in the main.


Now you are proving to be ignorant of both music and the record
business.


Well, there's a nice little business opening for you if you reckon the
world is just begging for all these 'treasures'.

--
*I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Mr.T November 13th 06 04:55 AM

Independent View Of LP versus CD
 

"Stephen Worth" wrote in message
...
A good cartridge can be bought for $50.


Anybody who thinks a $50 cartridge is good, surely is not too worried about
music quality OR their records!

Classical music in particular is a bargain on LP. Beautiful sounding
pressings with great performances routinely sell for a dollar or two a
disk.


I'm glad you are happy with them, and your $50 cartridge then.

MrT.



Stephen Worth November 13th 06 07:55 PM

Independent View Of LP versus CD
 
In article , Mr.T
MrT@home wrote:

Anybody who thinks a $50 cartridge is good, surely is not too worried about
music quality OR their records!


A $50 conical/spherical tip cartridge is kinder to records than the
most expensive elliptical, and it's a lot easier to keep in proper
alignment. There are quite a few good sounding cartridges in that price
range. It's a common audiophool mistake to judge sound quality by the
price.

See ya
Steve

--
Rare 78 rpm recordings on CD! http://www.vintageip.com/records/
Building a museum and archive of animation! http://www.animationarchive.org/
The Quest for the BEST HOTDOG in Los Angeles! http://www.hotdogspot.com/
Rediscovering great stuff from the past! http://www.vintagetips.com/


Mr.T November 14th 06 07:44 AM

Independent View Of LP versus CD
 

"Stephen Worth" wrote in message
...
Anybody who thinks a $50 cartridge is good, surely is not too worried

about
music quality OR their records!


A $50 conical/spherical tip cartridge is kinder to records than the
most expensive elliptical, and it's a lot easier to keep in proper
alignment.


What crap. A mistracking cheap conical stylus does infinitely more damage to
a record groove than a high performance line contact stylus connected to a
high performance cartridge.

There are quite a few good sounding cartridges in that price range.


I'm sure they are good enough for those $1 records you buy too.

It's a common audiophool mistake to judge sound quality by the price.


It's a moronic mistake to consider a $50 cartridge playing a $1 record, is
better than CD quality. But if you're happy with crap, don't let me stop
you, I'm sure I don't care.

MrT.






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