"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote

But whatever your agenda, together with Stewart, you
succeeded in driving away some good people, before
Stewart's rather sudden demise.

Prove it.


He doesn't have to, not to me - I know it's *fact* (in ukra)...

"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message

Iain wrote to Arny K

And now you talk about "harm and discomfort in others"
Just a tiny bit hypocritical, wouldn't you agree?


'Ang on a minute - Arny has never been a *tiny* bit hypocritical in his
entire life...

Put it down to English understatement, Keith:-)

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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message

Iain wrote to Arny K

And now you talk about "harm and discomfort in others"
Just a tiny bit hypocritical, wouldn't you agree?


'Ang on a minute - Arny has never been a *tiny* bit hypocritical in
his entire life...

Put it down to English understatement, Keith:-)



Wasted on the Yanks*, Iain - they need *all* the dots joined up, I
find...

;-)


*Well, one of them, anyway....

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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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And isn't he doing a great job? Seeing you and the
other remaining wrecker of this group (Plowie)
squirming and squealing, like you both are, is most
amusing - especially when he seems to be able to do
it so easily!

It appears that imagining harm and discomfort for
others cheers you up, Keith. Perhaps there is a dog or
cock fight that you could go and entertain yourself
with?

Arny. Some time ago, I was curious as to your raison
d'etre on RAT which is a NG dedicated to tube audio,
after both you and Stewart P expressed your disdain
for tubes and the people who enjoyed building amplifiers
with them.

As usual Iain, your imagination is working overtime.
Once people quit pressing the myth that tubes
necessarily sound better than the best SS equipment, I
can enjoy tubes for what they are - a technological
sentimental journey, and a technological backwater for
people who can't master the more difficult art of
building SS power amps.


I'm sure one reason people turned to valves was to build
a better amp they could buy for anything like the same
amount of money and many would have chosen valves as the
easier route, but I'm not sure even that's valid now that
the Chinese are *fully* onboard - at all price levels. I
suspect that anybody who builds a valve amp now is
because they *want* to and can only surmise they prefer
the resultant sound from one.

It's known as constructor's ear.

Don't assume that others can't hear the benefits, simply
because you (obviously) can't....

They have proven themselves to only be able to hear the benefits when they
can see that their favorite amp is playing.

It's all about prejudice and bias.

"Keith G" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote

But whatever your agenda, together with Stewart, you
succeeded in driving away some good people, before
Stewart's rather sudden demise.

Prove it.


He doesn't have to, not to me - I know it's *fact* (in
ukra)...

If its a fact then it is easy to prove. If it is nonsense, then you can't
prove it to be anything but nonsense.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote

But whatever your agenda, together with Stewart, you
succeeded in driving away some good people, before
Stewart's rather sudden demise.

Prove it.


He doesn't have to, not to me - I know it's *fact* (in
ukra)...

If its a fact then it is easy to prove.


You missed the 'He doesn't have to' bit, presumably?


If it is nonsense, then you can't
prove it to be anything but nonsense.


??

Sure. Fine. Glad we got that cleared up....

"Arny Krueger" wrote

As usual Iain, your imagination is working overtime.
Once people quit pressing the myth that tubes
necessarily sound better than the best SS equipment, I
can enjoy tubes for what they are - a technological
sentimental journey, and a technological backwater for
people who can't master the more difficult art of
building SS power amps.


I'm sure one reason people turned to valves was to build
a better amp they could buy for anything like the same
amount of money and many would have chosen valves as the
easier route, but I'm not sure even that's valid now that
the Chinese are *fully* onboard - at all price levels. I
suspect that anybody who builds a valve amp now is
because they *want* to and can only surmise they prefer
the resultant sound from one.

It's known as constructor's ear.


Interesting label - did you invent it yourself?

But even if such a thing does exist in mature people capable of
designing and/or building electronic kit such as valve amps, what does
it matter? They build (or try to build) what it is they think they want
want.

(I don't know about amps sounding or not sounding the same, but anyone
who can't distinguish between a well-matched system with a valve amp at
its heart and a similarly well-matched system with an SS amp is stone
deaf, IMO...)



Don't assume that others can't hear the benefits, simply
because you (obviously) can't....

They have proven themselves to only be able to hear the benefits when
they can see that their favorite amp is playing.

It's all about prejudice and bias.


You can say that again....

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message


I can enjoy tubes for what they are - a technological sentimental journey,
and a technological backwater for people who can't master the more
difficult art of building SS power amps.

Who would bother to do such a thing? SS amps are as cheap
as chips. Has the reason why people build tube amps totally
escaped you?


Stewart used the term "spearing fish in a barrel" and you
stated that it was your duty to keep Patrick Turner under
control (rather a sad deluded statement, as the level of
Patrick's knowledge is at least 60dB above your own!)

In your dreams Iain, even your alleged level of technical knowlege is 144
db above mine.

db? (Both letters lower case) There you go again:-) It's a good
thing you are not a musician Arny. You could not write Gb dim
and expect people to know that you meant Gb Aug.


Both of you, as I recall used the term "feet of clay" to describe
others on the group.

Oh come on Iain don't be shy. I used "feet of clay" to describe you.

You replied, I am told, to my BBC pal in identical terms earlier.
I presume that you got the term from Stewart - it is unlikely
you could have thought it up on your own.

But whatever your agenda, together with Stewart, you
succeeded in driving away some good people, before
Stewart's rather sudden demise.

Prove it.

I correspond regularly with people who have left
Usenet because of their aversion to "John the Baptist" (that's
you Arny:-) Some ten names come to mind in just a few
seconds. That's something for a true Christian to be proud
of!

Prove it.

Simply reading the posts is all the proof required.

And now you talk about "harm and discomfort in others"

A phrase that trolled you quite effectively, Iain. Thanks for indicting
yourself again!

Your choice of phrase illustrates how well you live up to
your reputation as a sanctimonious born-again hypocrite.

But, I must admit you *are* consistent:-)

Further discussion with you on this matter is pointless.

Iain.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote

But whatever your agenda, together with Stewart, you
succeeded in driving away some good people, before
Stewart's rather sudden demise.

Prove it.


He doesn't have to, not to me - I know it's *fact* (in
ukra)...

If its a fact then it is easy to prove. If it is nonsense, then you can't
prove it to be anything but nonsense.


Arny. You sound like a Lewis Carroll character:-)
LOL:-)

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote

But whatever your agenda, together with Stewart, you
succeeded in driving away some good people, before
Stewart's rather sudden demise.

Prove it.


He doesn't have to, not to me - I know it's *fact* (in
ukra)...


If its a fact then it is easy to prove. If it is nonsense, then you can't
prove it to be anything but nonsense.



So, now, how about this religion stuff?

--
Nick