In article ,
Martin wrote:
I've been thinking about getting a demagnetizer to make my old records
sound better. I've seen them advertised and wondered if they were any
good and what kind of difference I could expect once I've invested in
one.

This is to go with my old Amstrad stack unit which is in my bedroom. Do
you think it would be a worthwhile buy for me?

It would be a start if you found out what magnetism is.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:09:37 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

It would be a start if you found out what magnetism is.

No, tell us? Not what it DOES, we know that. But what it is.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Martin wrote:
I've been thinking about getting a demagnetizer to make my old records
sound better. I've seen them advertised and wondered if they were any
good and what kind of difference I could expect once I've invested in
one.

This is to go with my old Amstrad stack unit which is in my bedroom. Do
you think it would be a worthwhile buy for me?

It would be a start if you found out what magnetism is.

They must work, Stereophile reviewed the RL-30 record demagnetizer and
it removes the high frequency glaze and harshness from the records.

I believe my records will benefit because they sound harsh playing on my
old Amstrad stack in my bedroom.

What do you think? Stereophile must be telling the truth or they'd not
write the review. eh! For a grand it sounds like a bargain if it
improves the sound on my old Amstrad.

In article ,
Laurence Payne NOSPAMlpayne1ATdsl.pipex.com wrote:
On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:09:37 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

It would be a start if you found out what magnetism is.

No, tell us? Not what it DOES, we know that. But what it is.

Of course I can tell you that since I possess it in bucket loads.

Charisma.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:29:44 +0000, Laurence Payne
NOSPAMlpayne1ATdsl.pipex.com wrote:

On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:09:37 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

It would be a start if you found out what magnetism is.

No, tell us? Not what it DOES, we know that. But what it is.

A student was at his interview for a university electronics course.
"So, what exactly IS an electron, then?" asked the prof. "I, errr - -
- ", stammered the student, "I did know, but I have forgotten".

"Oh dear", said prof", "There were just two beings in the entire
universe who know what an electron is, and one of them has forgotten".

d

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Martin wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Martin wrote:

I've been thinking about getting a demagnetizer to make my old records
sound better. I've seen them advertised and wondered if they were any
good and what kind of difference I could expect once I've invested in
one.

This is to go with my old Amstrad stack unit which is in my bedroom. Do
you think it would be a worthwhile buy for me?

It would be a start if you found out what magnetism is.

They must work, Stereophile reviewed the RL-30 record demagnetizer and
it removes the high frequency glaze and harshness from the records.

For a while I imagined this MUST be a joke but not so ....

http://stereophile.com/features/1007reccomps/

" Acoustic Revive RL-30 Mk.3 record demagnetizer: $1975
The RL-30 Mk.3 removed the high-frequency glaze from harsh-sounding LPs to make
a believer out of Mikey. "I'm sorry to report that demagnetizing LPs
works—consistently and decidedly," he said. Its conservative looks and useful
dustcover give it an edge over Furutech's De Mag, in MF's opinion. (Vol.29
No.10) "

Any credibiltiy Stereophile may once have had just went out the window. What a
bunch of ****wits ! Just goes to show how unreliable the human ear is.

Graham

On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:08:08 +0000, Eeyore
wrote:

For a while I imagined this MUST be a joke but not so ....

http://stereophile.com/features/1007reccomps/

" Acoustic Revive RL-30 Mk.3 record demagnetizer: $1975
The RL-30 Mk.3 removed the high-frequency glaze from harsh-sounding LPs to make
a believer out of Mikey. "I'm sorry to report that demagnetizing LPs
works—consistently and decidedly," he said. Its conservative looks and useful
dustcover give it an edge over Furutech's De Mag, in MF's opinion. (Vol.29
No.10) "

I'd love to see the actual review! And the one for the Benz unit at
a tenth of the price, which "...seems to do the job as well as any of
them."

Laurence Payne wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

For a while I imagined this MUST be a joke but not so ....

http://stereophile.com/features/1007reccomps/

" Acoustic Revive RL-30 Mk.3 record demagnetizer: $1975
The RL-30 Mk.3 removed the high-frequency glaze from harsh-sounding LPs to make
a believer out of Mikey. "I'm sorry to report that demagnetizing LPs
works—consistently and decidedly," he said. Its conservative looks and useful
dustcover give it an edge over Furutech's De Mag, in MF's opinion. (Vol.29
No.10) "

I'd love to see the actual review! And the one for the Benz unit at
a tenth of the price, which "...seems to do the job as well as any of
them."

I found this online ..........

"RL-30 Mark III Large-sized Demagnetizer for Analog records and Cables. Including
Tourmaline Negative Ion effect. Limited series - 300 examples

LP are magnetized from the beginning due to magnetic substances included in the
vinyl.

The RL-30 Mark III can completely demagnetize LPs, cables and receptacles, and all
kind of optical discs such as CD, HDCD, SACD, DVD, DVD Audio as well as CD-R, DVD-R
and MD, and can rejuvenate their original sound/picture quality.
By using RL-30 III for CD-R or DVD-R in advance, you can create a high quality
sound/picture recording without errors.

It is also effective to make a great improvement of audio cables, connectors and
power cables preventing the inevitable buildup of magnetic fields.

RL-30 III is also equipped with "negative ion (minus ion) generator" which will
improve the sound by making it more vivid and natural."

http://www.playstereo.com/product_in...6&osCsid=f 45

If it was in the UK at least you ought to be able to get that removed under the
Trades Descriptions Act.

It's time to pull the rug from under all this voodoo nonsense.

Graham

In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article , Laurence Payne
NOSPAMlpayne1ATdsl.pipex.com wrote:
On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:09:37 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

It would be a start if you found out what magnetism is.

No, tell us? Not what it DOES, we know that. But what it is.

Of course I can tell you that since I possess it in bucket loads.

Charisma.

Do you think it would upset the makers and sellers of this gadget if we
pointed out to them that according to general relativity, 'magnetism' as
such doesn't exist? Just a relativistic correction for the electric field.
8-]

Or doe you think it will prompt them to make even more expensive boxes and
claim they manipulate the higher dimensional extensions which cause an LP
not to be a disc, but an 11-dimensional object? :-)

*Thats* why people like turntables. The rubber band used to spin the
turntable is a closed loop in multidimensional space. String theory. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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Signal wrote:
Martin wrote:

Eiron wrote:
Martin wrote:
Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Martin
wrote:
I've been thinking about getting a demagnetizer to make my old records
sound better. I've seen them advertised and wondered if they were any
good and what kind of difference I could expect once I've invested in
one.
This is to go with my old Amstrad stack unit which is in my bedroom. Do
you think it would be a worthwhile buy for me?
ahem The above has all the signs of being a wind-up (gramophone?) :-)

I did think of asking about 100 quid hook-up cables and £30/m speaker
wire, but I thought that might give the game away

On a more serious note, have any of you been following the Randi/Pear
cables saga? It's getting more and more viscious as the insults fly
left, right and centre.
Where is that debate taking place?
Is viscious like an angry octopus, vicious and viscous?
oops
there's a couple of forum posts on Randi's web site, if you have a poke
around there's a small handfull

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=97586

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=95361

Pear's CEO response

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/double-bl...oax-307473.php
http://tinyurl.com/2n6dfe

M



James Randi's challenge requires proof on the basis.. "demonstrate any
psychic, supernatural or paranormal ability". No cable mfrs claim any
such properties for their cables - so surprise surprise.. nobody is
willing to partake under these terms. The $1m cable challenge(s) are
vapid, inapplicable, and merely exist as an underhand method of
rubbishing cable makers.

If the challenge was "to demonstrate reliable statistical evidence of
an audible difference under controlled circumstances" (blah blah blah)
- ie. no requirement for proof of fairies or telekinesis if a
difference is found - then he might get a few punters up to the plate.
But is that what he really wants..? Doubt it!

How much did you pay for your speaker cables and inter-connects?