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Keith G January 16th 08 11:11 PM

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Keith G wrote:
That's nice for you. So just accept that others may also prefer to
work in different parts of the industry. And don't look down your nose
at them in quite such an obvious way.



Ay oop! Plowie's trying impose restrictions on Iain's 'looking down his
nose' activities!


I seek to impose restrictions on nobody, Keithie baby. Just fair comment.

(Seems he never learned that one has to earn the respect of others and
that it's no good just whining about feeling hard done by...?!)


You certainly need to earn some respect after having your arse kicked all
the way across the Atlantic...



Oh dear, Plowie's *projecting* again - the only person who's getting his
arse kicked (on a daily basis) in this group is himself! (I don't know why
he persists in making himself look so foolish, I can only presume he *likes*
it??)

Plowie, listen up - I have no idea what you are prattling on about, but I do
know I don't need anybody's respect that I don't already have! Why don't you
pack up being such a ****ing idiot and smarten yourself up a bit? You really
are a sour little 'washed-up pro' mess, stinking up what might have been an
interesting *recreational* forum...

.....but which is becoming pointless and boring, unfortunately....

:-[



--
*Aim Low, Reach Your Goals, Avoid Disappointment *



Compared to Iain's accomplishments, as a 'recordist', you certainly did
that!!

LOL!!



Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.



Dave Plowman (News) January 16th 08 11:46 PM

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In article ,
Keith G wrote:
You really are a sour little 'washed-up pro' mess, stinking up what
might have been an interesting *recreational* forum...


What - somewhere to advertise your junk? Get real.

--
*The statement above is false

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Keith G January 17th 08 09:35 PM

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
You really are a sour little 'washed-up pro' mess, stinking up what
might have been an interesting *recreational* forum...


What - somewhere to advertise your junk? Get real.



I got another book to add to that list (wherever it is):

Graf - Modern Dictionary Of Electronics

('Mode purity' anyone?)



--
*The statement above is false

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.



Dave Plowman (News) January 17th 08 10:24 PM

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In article ,
Keith G wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
You really are a sour little 'washed-up pro' mess, stinking up what
might have been an interesting *recreational* forum...


What - somewhere to advertise your junk? Get real.



I got another book to add to that list (wherever it is):


Graf - Modern Dictionary Of Electronics


I take it sold unread?

--
*Keep honking...I'm reloading.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Keith G January 18th 08 12:35 AM

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
You really are a sour little 'washed-up pro' mess, stinking up what
might have been an interesting *recreational* forum...

What - somewhere to advertise your junk? Get real.



I got another book to add to that list (wherever it is):


Graf - Modern Dictionary Of Electronics


I take it sold unread?




Mostly - I was OK 'til I got to 'pig discharge' then I felt a little queasy
and had to pack it in....





--
*Keep honking...I'm reloading.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.



Iain Churches[_2_] January 18th 08 06:54 AM

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"Keith G" wrote in message
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I, OTOH, have been beavering away all day packing surplus valves for
eBay!!


That's an enjoyable way to spend the day.
I wish I had known about these.

Good valves are very hard currency these
days. People keep coming up with stashes
of NOS Telefunkens and Mullards. I even
saw a couple of "Wehrmacht" valves a while
back. They were also made by Telefunken
and of very high standard.
The Fuhrer insisted:-)

Most people who have stocks of valves like to
barter and exchange, that's great fun (perhaps we
are only just slightly more grown up than we were
when as kids we collected cigarette cards)

A chap in he UK asked me to transcribe his favourite
LPs for him, and said I could keep them afterwards.
The New Seekers (what an incentive - no accounting
for taste:-)

I said I would be happy to help him out without charge, and
he could donate the LPs to Oxfam (they are queuing up outside
the Oxfam shop in Bexley for mint copies of The New Seekers:-)
Then he came up with a box (he didn't say how many)
of KT77s, Genelex in original packing, of no use to him
which he would have given me as payment for the work.
I told him what they were worth - he was amazed.

One has to be careful putting valves on e-Bay to mark
them as "cosmetically good but untested" otherwise if a
few of them turn out to have low emission or cathode to
heater shorts, then you can accrue enough negative feedback
on eBay to last a lifetime! But why am I telling you this?
You are a wily old eBayer. You know the ropes.

I spend quite a lot of my spare time testing valves for
people, and now have a second AVO tester, a Mk IV
which came from the UK. It's a beauty, and almost
mint. It came with all original documentation.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...ontPanel02.jpg



Cheers
Iain




Keith G January 18th 08 12:14 PM

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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
ti.fi...


"Keith G" wrote in message
...

I, OTOH, have been beavering away all day packing surplus valves for
eBay!!


That's an enjoyable way to spend the day.



No, you can have too much of a good thing:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/L1010334.JPG

:-)


I wish I had known about these.



Nothing to interest you, Iain - mostly (nearly all) modern-made, Chinese
300Bs. (All used, but sounding perfectly fine.) I am selling them because
the Bez has gone now - a blokey came to hear the Dynacos, was curious about
the Bezzer and *grabbed it* when he heard it!! (He has since been back and
now has the Dynacos as well!!)

If I build (buy?) another SET it will be a another 2A3 jobbie with better
trannies (?) than the Hammonds I have in the one here - I prefer the 2A3 and
don't want to be caught up in the extra 'overhead' of the current 300B
fashion with the higher prices for everything associated with that valve,
which I feel is overpriced by comparison to the 2A3 and offers no
significant sonic advantage that I have been able to hear so far.. (??)

(Sales line for an OK Chinese SET - 90% of the sonics for 10% of the price
of a true *quality* amplifier..??)



Good valves are very hard currency these
days.



Yep, but, if anything, a bit cheaper now than they were a few years back?


I said I would be happy to help him out without charge, and
he could donate the LPs to Oxfam (they are queuing up outside
the Oxfam shop in Bexley for mint copies of The New Seekers:-)



:-)


One has to be careful putting valves on e-Bay to mark
them as "cosmetically good but untested" otherwise if a
few of them turn out to have low emission or cathode to
heater shorts, then you can accrue enough negative feedback
on eBay to last a lifetime! But why am I telling you this?
You are a wily old eBayer. You know the ropes.



I have listed my valves only as 'used' and only say not tested if/when
asked. If anyone complained I would refund them instantly and without
question - not that I give a rat's botty about NFB; I am nicely arrived at
the point where I am *done with kit* now and don't need/plan to buy
anything!



I spend quite a lot of my spare time testing valves for
people, and now have a second AVO tester, a Mk IV
which came from the UK. It's a beauty, and almost
mint. It came with all original documentation.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...ontPanel02.jpg


Lovely bit of kit that!




Iain Churches[_2_] January 19th 08 12:33 PM

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"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
ti.fi...


"Keith G" wrote in message
...

I, OTOH, have been beavering away all day packing surplus valves for
eBay!!


That's an enjoyable way to spend the day.



No, you can have too much of a good thing:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/L1010334.JPG

:-)


I wish I had known about these.



Nothing to interest you, Iain - mostly (nearly all) modern-made, Chinese
300Bs. (All used, but sounding perfectly fine.) I am selling them because
the Bez has gone now - a blokey came to hear the Dynacos, was curious
about the Bezzer and *grabbed it* when he heard it!! (He has since been
back and now has the Dynacos as well!!)



It seems that the Chinese are getting better at quality control.
I have used Chinese preamp tubes but with good quality
Ruskie and NOS German and British tubes available,
what is the point?

The only experience I have with Chinese power tubes
was worrying to say the least, a quad of KT88s. Close to
the end of a two hour listening session one pair broke into
visually impressive pyrotechnics. I returned them to the
dealer in the UK who refunded the money.

If I build (buy?) another SET it will be a another 2A3 jobbie with better
trannies (?) than the Hammonds I have in the one here.


Yes. There are few makers that can really be considered for a serious
amp. Hammond is not one of them IME. Lundahl is excellent, and I
have always been very happy with Sowter. Both are expensive.

- I prefer the 2A3 and
don't want to be caught up in the extra 'overhead' of the current 300B
fashion with the higher prices for everything associated with that valve,
which I feel is overpriced by comparison to the 2A3 and offers no
significant sonic advantage that I have been able to hear so far.. (??)


300B amps are very much preferred flavour at the moment. I
very much want to build a good SET one day. There are people on
this and other groups who have very good first hand experience, so
there is no need for me to try to re-invent the wheel.

(Sales line for an OK Chinese SET - 90% of the sonics for 10% of the price
of a true *quality* amplifier..??)


But it's the 10% which sets a good one apart:-)
Just been following the post mortem of a Chinese PP monobloc
The OPT was potted in a very nice stainless steel cube, which
when cut open, revealed much cat-litter filler and a miniscule
open frame transformer, the kind one used to see in cheap
radio-grams years ago.

But, I must admit, the rest of the Chinky is very nice indeed.
Good point to point, and a high-quality stainless steel chassis.
(How do they do it for the money??) Cosmetically, it may
not be to the taste of people in ther Western world, but
that's not a major issue. There is room for a much bigger
mains transformer and OPT so these will be fitted. They
will probably turn this into a very good sounding
amplifier, still cheaper than one of the true *quality*
marques.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...ontPanel02.jpg


Lovely bit of kit that!


and becoming hard to find in this kind of condition.
My colleague has the later (last) AVO the VCM 163
which is now rarer than hen's teeth.

Cheers
Iain





Iain Churches[_2_] January 19th 08 01:45 PM

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...

Are you so incapable of comprehension that you need things 'pointed out to
you'? Or is this by one of your phantom 'friends' that reads this group
but is too terrified to post themselves that you've mentioned so often?


Even you surely must have noticed the number of interesting
people who have disappeared from this group in the past
say eight years or so.

I am thinking in particular of two, both with BBC backgrounds.
One had been at BBC Bristol for many years, the other had,
it turned out much later, been technical director and Magnegraph
when they were in Hanway PlaceW1.

Both knew much too much about analogue, valves and disc
cutting to suit the prevailing agenda. You, the Flying Scotsman
and The Tambourine Man quickly shut the door in their faces.

Both of these interesting people, and several others,
I am happy to say, still keep in regular touch
by e-mail.

Perhaps it's my kind face and sunny disposition:-)

Iain









Iain Churches[_2_] January 19th 08 02:00 PM

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article i,
Iain Churches wrote:


Besides there could not be a worse place.


Explained earlier.
Even worse than the edge of the
music stand.


Not so if separation is the main goal.


Good sound is surely the main goal. Strings need
ambience, not separation.

A bsic rule of thumb, taught to every single
student of recording arts: When recording a brass
section, never sit the trumpets and trombones behind
the saxophones/woodwind. Take a look at any TV
show, you will see that they are invariable sitting in
that order.


As they are on any stage big band.
WW are always at the front.


Take a look at any of the books that deal with studio layout.
Alton Everest, John Woram.Even Tremaine has a chapter
on this. If you think about it, the optimum brass/saxes/woodwind
setup is obvious, I did not think ít up.

Sounds like
you always want to 'improve' on nature?



What is natural about the woodwind sitting at the front
in a recording? For a concert, they sit immediately behind
the strings because their acoustic volume is less than the
brass. But as soon as you start to record, or use any SR,
the matter needs to be carefully reconsidered.

I think it is only natural to want to achieve the very
best result that one can in the circumstances.
Or do you say "Oh to Hell with it. Who Cares?
It's only TV!" ?


Ted Heath (bandleader not politician) used to say that
the saxophones were the children of the orchestra, and
had to sit at the front. They needed his direction. Then
when the red light went on, and they began to play, most
of the players shut their eyes. It wouldn't have mattered
where they sat! Only small changes were necessary to
give the section a lot more bite and tighten the whole
sound of the band, due solely to much reduced leakage.

Iain






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