"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message

In article ,
BBC is biased towards DAB wrote:
I also wonder how many who say 'internet' radio sounds better than
DAB are comparing like for like. Do they have a DAB tuner fed into
the
same sound system as their PC? Or are they comparing their PC
sound
system to a DAB portable radio?


Utterly ridiculous. Why would anyone compare the quality on a DAB
portable radio with what you hear on a hi-fi system??

Wondered when you'd turn up. Your search on DAB topics seems a bit
slow
compared to usual.


I don't search for DAB topics - I just stumbled across this thread.


But you could try reading *carefully* before replying.


I'm happy with what I said first time around, thanks.



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The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm

In article ,
BBC is biased towards DAB wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message

In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
I reckon that Dab as we know it will die away left behind by other
radio
tech, and theres still no firm date for digital changeover indeed a
lot
of the commercial sector can't afford to run DAB and FM
transmissions..

If enough pull out of DAB it will force the 'rental' costs down.
They were
ludicrous to start with.


Really? You were disputing that the transmission costs were high a
week or two ago. You seem to have changed your tune.

Are you thick or just a fool?

I argued that DAB costs aren't intrinsically higher than any other
transmission medium.

But since this is too difficult for you to understand I'll not bother
again.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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In article ,
BBC is biased towards DAB wrote:
BTW - I've never heard a decent DAB radio sound as bad as MW.

Try listening to Kerrang.

Just had a brief listen for the first time ever. Sounds exactly the same
as any other pop station. And far better quality than off MW.

A serious question - does your hearing cut off at under 5 kHz? Perhaps
you've been listening to pop music at too high a level for a long time.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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In article ,
BBC is biased towards DAB wrote:
I see you've snipped what I was responding to, so here's what Plowman
said:

"BTW - I've never heard a decent DAB radio sound as bad as MW."

So I was saying that Kerrang on DAB sounds as bad as MW.

Nice to see your logic is as always.

But if you take just one parameter, Kerrang on DAB is plainly transmitting
higher frequencies than you'll get off any AM broadcast. If you can't hear
that it explains a lot.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message

In article ,
David Looser wrote:
"BBC is biased towards DAB" wrote in message
...


I do find this phrase "BBC is biased towards DAB", odd to say the
least.
DAB simply stands for "Digital Audio Broadcasting" it says nothing
about coding standards or bit rates. And internet radio is a
completely
different animal, which can exist alongside digital broadcasting,
but
is hardly a replacement for it.

He's simply a sad person who spends his whole life grizzling about
the BBC
and DAB.


Awwwww, can't David attack what I write so he has to try and attack
the person instead?



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Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message

In article ,
BBC is biased towards DAB wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message

In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
I reckon that Dab as we know it will die away left behind by
other
radio
tech, and theres still no firm date for digital changeover indeed
a
lot
of the commercial sector can't afford to run DAB and FM
transmissions..

If enough pull out of DAB it will force the 'rental' costs down.
They were
ludicrous to start with.


Really? You were disputing that the transmission costs were high a
week or two ago. You seem to have changed your tune.

Are you thick or just a fool?


Oh, the irony.


I argued that DAB costs aren't intrinsically higher than any other
transmission medium.

But since this is too difficult for you to understand I'll not
bother
again.


And Tony Sayer told you that DAB was intrinsically more expensive.

What would you know about this anyway? Your early comments on this
subject seemed to suggest that you thought that it was mainly down to
electricity bills, which shows how utterly clueless you are about the
whole subject of transmission costs.



--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:13:22 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
BBC is biased towards DAB wrote:
I see you've snipped what I was responding to, so here's what Plowman
said:

"BTW - I've never heard a decent DAB radio sound as bad as MW."

So I was saying that Kerrang on DAB sounds as bad as MW.

Nice to see your logic is as always.

But if you take just one parameter, Kerrang on DAB is plainly transmitting
higher frequencies than you'll get off any AM broadcast. If you can't hear
that it explains a lot.

OK this needs to be settled. I've recorded 10 seconds of Kerrang from
DAB, followed by 10 seconds of a MW pop station, both from decent
tuners. As far as I am concerned there is no contest - DAB wins hands
down. Van Gogh would have heard the difference.

The DAB goes to 12kHz, the mw is dying by 4kHz.

http://81.174.169.10/odds/dab_mw.mp3

d

"BBC is biased towards DAB" wrote in message
...


But the BBC is extremely biased against Internet radio, so the BBC is
going to push everyone forcefully towards DAB whether that's the best
system for them or not. That's the point.


Is it? well well, so all those BBC internet streams are a figment of my
imagination are they?


David.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message

In article ,
BBC is biased towards DAB wrote:
BTW - I've never heard a decent DAB radio sound as bad as MW.

Try listening to Kerrang.

Just had a brief listen for the first time ever. Sounds exactly the
same
as any other pop station.


The fact that you'd say that speaks volumes about this entire issue.


And far better quality than off MW.


Listening to it now. It has improved since I last heard it, and I'd
put it at just above MW now - a triumph for 21st century digital
radio. Previously it was worse than MW. Seriously. And I bet the one
you can hear is **** as well, but you won't admit that, because it
doesn't suit your argument.


A serious question - does your hearing cut off at under 5 kHz?


Fool.



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Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm

"David Looser" wrote in message

"BBC is biased towards DAB" wrote in message
...


But the BBC is extremely biased against Internet radio, so the BBC
is
going to push everyone forcefully towards DAB whether that's the
best
system for them or not. That's the point.


Is it? well well, so all those BBC internet streams are a figment of
my
imagination are they?


Where did I say that? Hint: I didn't. I said "push everyone forcefully
towards DAB". That's correct. I didn't say "force everyone to get
DAB", just give them a massive shove in that direction for the next 10
years. Why? Because they're trying to protect their audiences, because
if people listen via the Internet they think they'll lose listeners.

That's the modern-day dishonest BBC for you.



--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm