On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:11:18 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote


The capsule of the NT1-A (unlike that of the NT1) is entirely
Australian made.


I wonder...???

When I was investigating cheap mics a year or two ago a lot of roads seem to
lead back to an anonymous-looking outfit in China with a name or initials
beginning with 'Y' - I think, can't be sure now. (Note obvious pun
avoided....;-)


OK, I Googled and got lucky - I think it's ShuaiYin:

http://www.shuaiy.com/


If you can't get anywhere with that (I gave up), there's a couple of
references he

http://homerecording.about.com/od/mi...100_Review.htm

http://recordinghacks.com/microphones/CAD/Trion-6000



Yes, the Chinese do an awful lot of this stuff, both badged and OEM.
The NT1-A isn't part of it, though.

d

Glenn Richards wrote:

Yes, I know you can just both sing into the same mic... but the other
vocal part is a female voice so will probably need different EQ. She's
also not as loud as me so... two tracks would be better!

Was considering a pair of SM58s but I believe these are designed with
ruggedness first and sound quality second with live stage use in mind.
So any suggestions?

It's for recording a demo, not a full blown studio, so don't want to
spend loads on it!


As recommended by someone in here, I've just bought a pair of these:
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/produc...ched-pair.html
Haven't used them in anger yet, but they sound great in tests. Your pre-amp
does have 48V phantom ?

On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:02:13 +0100, "TonyL"
wrote:

As recommended by someone in here, I've just bought a pair of these:
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/produc...ched-pair.html
Haven't used them in anger yet, but they sound great in tests. Your pre-amp
does have 48V phantom ?

Have you tried them on vocals? This isn't one of Behringer's
recommended applications for this model. Which doesn't mean they
WON'T sound good close up to a voice, but I'd check first with someone
who's tried.

Laurence Payne wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:02:13 +0100, "TonyL"
wrote:

As recommended by someone in here, I've just bought a pair of these:
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/produc...ched-pair.html
Haven't used them in anger yet, but they sound great in tests. Your
pre-amp does have 48V phantom ?

Have you tried them on vocals? This isn't one of Behringer's
recommended applications for this model. Which doesn't mean they
WON'T sound good close up to a voice, but I'd check first with someone
who's tried.


Only with my own crappy vocals. I'll try them out for real next week
with/without the built-in filter.

"Laurence Payne"
"TonyL"

As recommended by someone in here, I've just bought a pair of these:
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/produc...ched-pair.html
Haven't used them in anger yet, but they sound great in tests. Your
pre-amp
does have 48V phantom ?

Have you tried them on vocals? This isn't one of Behringer's
recommended applications for this model.


** Probably because of the same problem the NT-1 has.



...... Phil

"Glenn Richards" wrote in message
. uk...
Right... I have some backing tracks that I need to record vocals on using
Audition. At the moment I have an el-cheapo cardioid mic from Maplin (kind
of like a poor man's SM58) that I've had since I was about 15. It works to
a point but I need something a bit better.

So without breaking the bank, any recommendations? (Yes, I have an
offboard mic pre-amp, I'm not using the noise-ridden AC97 input!)

If it's affordable I'd like to get a pair of them, not for stereo use,
I've got a singing partner and would rather like to be able to record both
parts at once rather than using an overdub. You get a better interaction
if you're both at the mic at the same time.

Yes, I know you can just both sing into the same mic... but the other
vocal part is a female voice so will probably need different EQ. She's
also not as loud as me so... two tracks would be better!

Was considering a pair of SM58s but I believe these are designed with
ruggedness first and sound quality second with live stage use in mind. So
any suggestions?

It's for recording a demo, not a full blown studio, so don't want to spend
loads on it!

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Hi Glenn,

If you are keen on singing together with your partner at the mic and like
the intimacy of that, I would suggest that you get a mic that has an
omni-directional pattern rather than a cardioid. You will pick up some of
the room as well (obviously), but that will add to the atmosphere and you
will tend to get a response with less bumps in it. This will widen your
choice of available devices to do the job.

You could also try a PZM microphone, (or a pair of them for stereo) although
you will have to give it a boundary (ies) to get any decent bottom end.

Regards

Mike

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:12:04 +0100, "fredbloggstwo"
wrote:

If you are keen on singing together with your partner at the mic and like
the intimacy of that, I would suggest that you get a mic that has an
omni-directional pattern rather than a cardioid. You will pick up some of
the room as well (obviously), but that will add to the atmosphere and you
will tend to get a response with less bumps in it. This will widen your
choice of available devices to do the job.

He specifically said he wanted to record two separate tracks.


You could also try a PZM microphone, (or a pair of them for stereo) although
you will have to give it a boundary (ies) to get any decent bottom end.

What advantage do you feel PZMs would bring? Generally, they're a
neat idea desperately looking for an application :-)

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:12:04 +0100, "fredbloggstwo"
wrote:

If you are keen on singing together with your partner at the mic and like
the intimacy of that, I would suggest that you get a mic that has an
omni-directional pattern rather than a cardioid. You will pick up some of
the room as well (obviously), but that will add to the atmosphere and you
will tend to get a response with less bumps in it. This will widen your
choice of available devices to do the job.

He specifically said he wanted to record two separate tracks.


You could also try a PZM microphone, (or a pair of them for stereo)
although
you will have to give it a boundary (ies) to get any decent bottom end.

What advantage do you feel PZMs would bring? Generally, they're a
neat idea desperately looking for an application :-)


Hi Lawrence,

I was trying to suggest an alternative to saving the OP some cash.
Multimiking/multitracking is one of the worst things to happen to recording
IMHO, both quality and psychologically. The OP wanted to sing with his
partner at the mic so I took that line to help him. A good single omni mic
is probably more honest and give a better sound than a pair of eq'd
mulitracked. If his cash would go to it, I would have suggested a good
figure of 8 so as to sing opposite at the same mic, but they start to get
pricey. :-)

As for the PZMs, have an experiment sometime if you haven't already: with a
good baffle, you can get some very good recordings.

Regards

Mike

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:20:35 +0100, "fredbloggstwo"
wrote:


I was trying to suggest an alternative to saving the OP some cash.
Multimiking/multitracking is one of the worst things to happen to recording
IMHO, both quality and psychologically. The OP wanted to sing with his
partner at the mic so I took that line to help him. A good single omni mic
is probably more honest and give a better sound than a pair of eq'd
mulitracked. If his cash would go to it, I would have suggested a good
figure of 8 so as to sing opposite at the same mic, but they start to get
pricey. :-)

I might agree with you. But as he specifically said he wanted two
mics, not to share one with his partner...

In article ,
fredbloggstwo wrote:
I was trying to suggest an alternative to saving the OP some cash.
Multimiking/multitracking is one of the worst things to happen to
recording IMHO, both quality and psychologically.

Possibly, but for the home musician it opens up all sort of possibilities
otherwise impossible. Not many can afford to hire a studio and orchestra -
let alone one which is internally balanced. ;-)

The OP wanted to sing
with his partner at the mic so I took that line to help him. A good
single omni mic is probably more honest and give a better sound than a
pair of eq'd mulitracked.

Omnis are ideal as hand held vocal mics. Where you don't need deafening
levels of foldback and PA. But used more distantly will pick up more room
acoustic/background sounds. Which you probably won't want if working at
home.

If his cash would go to it, I would have
suggested a good figure of 8 so as to sing opposite at the same mic,
but they start to get pricey. :-)

Well of course the traditional large diaphragm condenser mics were all
switchable between omni, cardiod and fig eight due to having two
diaphragms one on each side of the capsule. By matrixing these you get the
various DPs.

As for the PZMs, have an experiment sometime if you haven't already:
with a good baffle, you can get some very good recordings.

They can have their uses - but these tend to be rather restricted.

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