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Keith G[_2_] January 13th 10 03:37 PM

Is this too mellow?
 
Laurence Payne wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:23:24 +0000, Keith G
wrote:

We're working on that. Can you feel a strange warmth every
time you go near the trombone case?
Yes! How did you get my cat to pee on the carpet like that?


The cat pee'd in the airing cupboard??


Oh, all the time. It's doing it by the trombone case that's unusual.




It's trying to tell you to get it out, brush up and join the UKRAnian
All Stars for their next production - Moonlight Serenade, I believe!

:-)


(I calculate we need at least 16 tracks for the albumm - then we can
peddle it on the Net at top *greedy-********* MI prices and just sit
back and wait for the cash to come *pouring in*..!! ;-)



Iain Churches[_2_] January 13th 10 04:08 PM

Is this too mellow?
 

"Keith G" wrote in message
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Iain Churches wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message
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Laurence Payne wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:56:57 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

The piece comes over as being put
together, rather than existing in a natural acoustic setting.
Oh it's a composite alright - recorded in three different
countries, and played by people who have never met each
other.
A circumstance that makes it very hard for the players to listen to
each other and co-operate stylistically and rhythmically. It's easy
to phrase together when you can see each other (a little rehearsal
doesn't hurt either :-)


What I would like to see (hear) is dozens of people in different
locations
playing in a great big, brought together Bonzo Dog 'Intro Outro' type of
piece - then we could YouTube it!!


That would be great fun. BD were were a very good band.
Maybe The Temperance Seven is more our style?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDhaZElJ4Ho

Iain



Hmm....

A) I never liked them that much


OK. Only an idea. We could play highlights from
Meistersingers instead, but with a drum machine, some
sampled French horns, and Madonna shouting "Hey"
at various points. Or......


and B) It is a very *virtuosic* playing
style - is anybody up to that yet?


It's only a matter of practice, and blowing into
the sharp end and waggling your fingers, just
as the lady said.

Not to mention the vocal - but I bet SN could do it!

I had you in mind for that, Keith.
Bring your own megaphone.




Iain Churches[_2_] January 13th 10 04:11 PM

Is this too mellow?
 

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:22:12 +0000, Keith G
wrote:

Are you sure that isn't what she said *she* does? ;-)


WHAT did you say she was doing in Covent Garden?


Attending the hopera, but I only have her word for it:-)
Though come to think of it, it did seem a little odd when
she pulled out one of those MasterCard chip and pin
terminals from her pocket instead of a cellphone:-)






Arny Krueger January 13th 10 04:30 PM

Is this too mellow?
 
"Iain Churches" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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Kitty probably did the best job he could of implementing
my suggestion with his limited skills and equipment, and
posted the file he fabricated as evidence as part of a trumped=up test of
my recording skills.


You suggested EQ was carried out on Studer Vista console
http://www.studer.ch/products/product.aspx?pid=2
exactly as you specified it.


Please provide the name of the document and the page in that document that
describes this console's "FFT filter".




Arny Krueger January 13th 10 04:32 PM

Is this too mellow?
 
"Keith G" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Laurence Payne" wrote in
message
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:27:20 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

There's some distortion in the sax sound at 2.44.
Maybe in the recording chain, maybe spit sound from
the sax, maybe a MP3 artifact. Whatever it is, the
eq'd version emphasises it.
If its spit, its not distortion. Since you don't
know, your comment is meaningless.
Not worth arguing. "Unwanted sound" then.
Accurate use of words seems to be a lost art around
here.
Have a listen.
I have already listened to my own track, and compared
it to the fiction that Kitty posted here. He didn't
implement my recommendation exactly. Besides, my
recommendation was a just first cut, not a recipie for
a finished, mastered recording.

Wake up THICKO..!!

I only recorded the clarinet - I mixed NOTHING, I EQ'd
NOTHING.


What is this?


http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaMEQ.mp3


It's your suggestion EQ'd by *Iain* and sent to me for
purposes of posting a 'before and after'/'better or
worse' comparison'!


The key point being that this is not a file that I produced, or advised or
consented to. In short, its something that Iain cobbled together for
less-than-honorable purposes.

You *know* I neither have the software or skill (or the
inclination to acquire either one) do you not?


AFAIK, neither does Iain.



Arny Krueger January 13th 10 04:34 PM

Is this too mellow?
 
"Iain Churches" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
What is this?

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaMEQ.mp3


What does the EQ in the file name mean?


It identifies the file EQ'd precisely to your suggestions.


It appears that the hardware you used lacks the ability to do what you say.

Please provide the URL of a document, and a page number in that document,
that descibes the "FFT filter" in this console.




Keith G[_2_] January 13th 10 04:50 PM

Is this too mellow?
 
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Laurence Payne" wrote in
message
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:27:20 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

There's some distortion in the sax sound at 2.44.
Maybe in the recording chain, maybe spit sound from
the sax, maybe a MP3 artifact. Whatever it is, the
eq'd version emphasises it.
If its spit, its not distortion. Since you don't
know, your comment is meaningless.
Not worth arguing. "Unwanted sound" then.
Accurate use of words seems to be a lost art around
here.
Have a listen.
I have already listened to my own track, and compared
it to the fiction that Kitty posted here. He didn't
implement my recommendation exactly. Besides, my
recommendation was a just first cut, not a recipie for
a finished, mastered recording.
Wake up THICKO..!!

I only recorded the clarinet - I mixed NOTHING, I EQ'd
NOTHING.
What is this?


http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaMEQ.mp3


It's your suggestion EQ'd by *Iain* and sent to me for
purposes of posting a 'before and after'/'better or
worse' comparison'!


The key point being that this is not a file that I produced,




Exactly - not your concern and not your property. Much less anything to
be *paid for*...!!



or advised or
consented to.




Your consent was not required - you made a comment in a public forum.
What happened or did not happen as a consequence is beyond your control
and does not need your permission. If you think I am wrong, sue me....

Actually, I would have thought you would have considered yourself to be
lucky not to have just been told to **** off - no?

Remember, there is an element of 'parole'to be considered if you are not
to end up back in my ****ter - which I'm sure would mean life would be a
lot less rumbunctious for a few 'prissy types' here..??)




In short, its something that Iain cobbled together for
less-than-honorable purposes.



Your paranoia is showing agaim - even the clarinettist liked your
suggestion in various places!

I mentioned this before - you appear to have elected to ignore it. Your
privilege....



You *know* I neither have the software or skill (or the
inclination to acquire either one) do you not?


AFAIK, neither does Iain.




How you can draw that conclusion in the light of the current proceedings
simply beggars belief and serves only to illustrate your dishonesty....





Keith G[_2_] January 13th 10 04:54 PM

Is this too mellow?
 
Iain Churches wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message
...
Iain Churches wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message
...
Laurence Payne wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:56:57 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

The piece comes over as being put
together, rather than existing in a natural acoustic setting.
Oh it's a composite alright - recorded in three different
countries, and played by people who have never met each
other.
A circumstance that makes it very hard for the players to listen to
each other and co-operate stylistically and rhythmically. It's easy
to phrase together when you can see each other (a little rehearsal
doesn't hurt either :-)

What I would like to see (hear) is dozens of people in different
locations
playing in a great big, brought together Bonzo Dog 'Intro Outro' type of
piece - then we could YouTube it!!
That would be great fun. BD were were a very good band.
Maybe The Temperance Seven is more our style?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDhaZElJ4Ho

Iain


Hmm....

A) I never liked them that much


OK. Only an idea. We could play highlights from
Meistersingers instead, but with a drum machine, some
sampled French horns, and Madonna shouting "Hey"
at various points. Or......


Don't say it - *Domine*...!!!??




and B) It is a very *virtuosic* playing
style - is anybody up to that yet?


It's only a matter of practice, and blowing into
the sharp end and waggling your fingers, just
as the lady said.
Not to mention the vocal - but I bet SN could do it!

I had you in mind for that, Keith.
Bring your own megaphone.



Haven't got one - mebbe I could fettle a traffic cone....

:-)


bcoombes January 13th 10 04:59 PM

Is this too mellow?
 
Keith G wrote:


http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaMEQ.mp3


It's your suggestion EQ'd by *Iain* and sent to me for
purposes of posting a 'before and after'/'better or
worse' comparison'!


The key point being that this is not a file that I produced,




Exactly - not your concern and not your property. Much less anything to
be *paid for*...!!


Your consent was not required - you made a comment in a public forum.


I'm not sure if Arny has quite got the idea of unmoderated groups on usenet
yet..he seems to think that any criticism of him or his friends is 'libellous'
[his word in an earlier thread] or in some other way illegal.

--
Bill Coombes

Laurence Payne[_2_] January 13th 10 05:21 PM

Is this too mellow?
 
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:54:34 +0000, Keith G
wrote:

Don't say it - *Domine*...!!!??


Was Arny's recording THAT bad? Was it posted to show off technical
skill or for the musical content? Just trying to be charitable.


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