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Laurence Payne[_2_] January 14th 10 12:45 PM

Is this too mellow?
 
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 07:41:47 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Indeed. To have Arny post something that actually
reflects his clasmed skills, and matched the expectations
of others would be most refreshing.


Unfortunately Iain, it has fallen to me to do what others here lack the
stomach to do - which is make recordings of suboptimal and even poor
musicians, in suboptimal, even horrific rooms. In many cases I'm instructed
to not do anything overt to overcome either issue.


Fine. We all do this. I played for an amateur pantomime in the local
church hall just after Christmas. They had no budget to pay me as a
musician, but I recorded and videoed it, and made a few pennies
selling copies to the performers. They'll treasure it. It's
technically OK. But there's no way it's going on my show reel :-)

Remind me again why you felt yours worth presenting?

Laurence Payne[_2_] January 14th 10 12:46 PM

Is this too mellow?
 
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 07:38:31 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


In the current context, I'd be insane to post any audio files anywhere that
you can obtain them Iain, due to your maleveolence and/or incompetence. And
ditto for Laurence, because he has no tolerance for real-world people who
love music but are not necessarily the greatest experts in the world.


You don't like ANYONE do you, Arny? :-)

Arny Krueger January 14th 10 01:21 PM

Is this too mellow?
 
"Laurence Payne" wrote in message

On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 07:28:47 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

It's a high school chorus recorded in a nearly-empty
high school auditorium. It's quite clear that you would
deny the people involved with performances like this,
the benefits of a recording like this that they can use
for the purposes of instruction, or sentimentality. It
*is* a pretty good replica of what they sounded like at
the judge's seats at the time.


Fine. Remind us why you posted it?


It was so long ago I don't recall.



Arny Krueger January 14th 10 01:23 PM

Is this too mellow?
 
"Laurence Payne" wrote in message

On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 07:38:31 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


In the current context, I'd be insane to post any audio
files anywhere that you can obtain them Iain, due to
your malevolence and/or incompetence. And ditto for
Laurence, because he has no tolerance for real-world
people who love music but are not necessarily the
greatest experts in the world.


You don't like ANYONE do you, Arny? :-)


I like almost all of the people that I work with in the real world.

I have good relationships with a number of people on more mainstream HTML
forums.

Usenet is clearly on its way out the door. The absence of moderation
probably has a lot to do with it.



Arny Krueger January 14th 10 01:31 PM

Is this too mellow?
 
"Laurence Payne" wrote in message

On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 07:41:47 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Indeed. To have Arny post something that actually
reflects his clasmed skills, and matched the
expectations of others would be most refreshing.


Unfortunately Iain, it has fallen to me to do what
others here lack the stomach to do - which is make
recordings of suboptimal and even poor musicians, in
suboptimal, even horrific rooms. In many cases I'm
instructed to not do anything overt to overcome either
issue.


Fine. We all do this.


I'm glad that I could encourage you to be a little more realistic in what
you post, Laurence.

I played for an amateur pantomime
in the local church hall just after Christmas. They had
no budget to pay me as a musician, but I recorded and
videoed it, and made a few pennies selling copies to the
performers.


Subtract the making a few pennies part, and that's my situation. Also, the
venue is pretty horrific in terms of both lighting and sound, and the
performers are clearly in the need of lots of development. But, things are
progressing if only very slowly.

They'll treasure it. It's technically OK.
But there's no way it's going on my show reel :-)


Remind me again why you felt yours worth presenting?


It was so long ago I don't recall. Obviously, I've had more than enough
adversity theropy so that I will never do it again.

I'm actually amused by how far needy and inherently dishonest people like
Kitty and Iain will go - create their own recordings that they attribute to
me and then accuse me of incompetence when they criticize their own work.

Note that Iain can't even be bothered to show how he had the resources to do
what he claims he did. Just because its a high end console doesn't mean that
it has the equalization resources of even just middle-market DAW software
such as Audition.

Also, it is improbable that Iain actually did what he claims he did - he
probably had someone else do the actual knob twisting.



Keith G[_2_] January 14th 10 02:05 PM

Is this too mellow?
 
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Laurence Payne" wrote in message

On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 07:41:47 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Indeed. To have Arny post something that actually
reflects his clasmed skills, and matched the
expectations of others would be most refreshing.
Unfortunately Iain, it has fallen to me to do what
others here lack the stomach to do - which is make
recordings of suboptimal and even poor musicians, in
suboptimal, even horrific rooms. In many cases I'm
instructed to not do anything overt to overcome either
issue.

Fine. We all do this.


I'm glad that I could encourage you to be a little more realistic in what
you post, Laurence.

I played for an amateur pantomime
in the local church hall just after Christmas. They had
no budget to pay me as a musician, but I recorded and
videoed it, and made a few pennies selling copies to the
performers.


Subtract the making a few pennies part, and that's my situation. Also, the
venue is pretty horrific in terms of both lighting and sound, and the
performers are clearly in the need of lots of development. But, things are
progressing if only very slowly.

They'll treasure it. It's technically OK.
But there's no way it's going on my show reel :-)


Remind me again why you felt yours worth presenting?


It was so long ago I don't recall. Obviously, I've had more than enough
adversity theropy so that I will never do it again.

I'm actually amused by how far needy and inherently dishonest people like
Kitty and Iain will go - create their own recordings that they attribute to
me and then accuse me of incompetence when they criticize their own work.

Note that Iain can't even be bothered to show how he had the resources to do
what he claims he did. Just because its a high end console doesn't mean that
it has the equalization resources of even just middle-market DAW software
such as Audition.

Also, it is improbable that Iain actually did what he claims he did - he
probably had someone else do the actual knob twisting.




Barking....



Laurence Payne[_2_] January 14th 10 02:39 PM

Is this too mellow?
 
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:21:40 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Fine. Remind us why you posted it?


It was so long ago I don't recall.


That's OK. I expect someone else will. Maybe Goggle Groups. There
is no hiding place on the Internet. You are the sum of your postings.
You have my sympathy :-)

Laurence Payne[_2_] January 14th 10 02:41 PM

Is this too mellow?
 
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:31:20 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


Remind me again why you felt yours worth presenting?


It was so long ago I don't recall. Obviously, I've had more than enough
adversity theropy so that I will never do it again.


You know Arny, you could get some respect back by simply posting
something GOOD you've recorded. There must have been SOMETHING?

Arny Krueger January 14th 10 03:02 PM

Is this too mellow?
 
"Laurence Payne" wrote in message

On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:31:20 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


Remind me again why you felt yours worth presenting?


It was so long ago I don't recall. Obviously, I've had
more than enough adversity therapy so that I will never
do it again.


You know Arny, you could get some respect back by simply
posting something GOOD you've recorded. There must have
been SOMETHING?


Good? Good equipment, no problemo. Good performers, well not so much. Good
venue? Let's put it this way, the best places I've ever recorded in were
high school auditoriums.

As long as UKRA is dominated by trolls like Iain and Kitty, not a chance in
^%$# anything I ever record will be posted here.



Keith G[_2_] January 14th 10 04:05 PM

Is this too mellow?
 
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Laurence Payne" wrote in message

On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:31:20 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Remind me again why you felt yours worth presenting?
It was so long ago I don't recall. Obviously, I've had
more than enough adversity therapy so that I will never
do it again.

You know Arny, you could get some respect back by simply
posting something GOOD you've recorded. There must have
been SOMETHING?


Good? Good equipment, no problemo. Good performers, well not so much. Good
venue? Let's put it this way, the best places I've ever recorded in were
high school auditoriums.



Good grief.



As long as UKRA is dominated by trolls like Iain and Kitty, not a chance in
^%$# anything I ever record will be posted here.




How pathetic....


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