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Iain Churches[_2_] January 21st 10 06:04 AM

Is this too mellow?
 

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:48:48 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:

Good thinking, but I need to speak to someone about before I do anything -
I
believe to open these things up you have to split 'em with a putty knifeor
summat similar! I got nothing to hide, but all my family photos are on
there
and pix of my departed dogs - I'd hate to bump into any of them somewhere
in
the future and my own picture of a badger did drop through the letterbox
once!!


When I was at college a photograph was taken (I'm admitting nothing)
of an accommodating young lady ... well ... accommodating ... a
trombone stand.

That picture pops up from time to time in most unexpected corners of
the globe :-)


Do you still view here with muted admiration?




Iain Churches[_2_] January 21st 10 06:21 AM

Is this too mellow?
 

"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message
o.uk...
Iain Churches wrote:
"David Looser" wrote in message
...
"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message
o.uk...
Arny Krueger wrote:
Please remind me why the US is supposed to be jealous of the UK over
*anything*?
There are lot's of things..universal health care for instance... but
here's a link to a really important one. [In an absence way of course]
http://www.kkk.com/

I agree entirely. Our relative lack of religious nutcases: creationists,
Bible literalists and believers in the "rapture", is a real plus not
only
for the UK but for Europe as a whole.


A Swedish friend of mine, a teacher, said to me:
"If I were an Englishman I don't think I would ever
be able to forgive the Americans for the rape of
your language.


The sad thing is your Swedish friend probably spoke better English than a
lot of the products of New Labour's schools. :(



That's a fact:-)

He tells a good story about how, after uni, he
travelled across America and visited Japan. He got a
job in a music store in Chicago, and the secretary to
the owner uses to get him (my pal) to write all the letters
as he was the only one who could a) put a sentence
together, and b) spell. English was his fourth language:-)

He cannot understand (neither can I for that matter) why
things that "can be done" are "doable", and why the friendy
"You are welcome" has given way to "No problem" and
how "guys" can refer to a group of people of either gender,
or what people mean by "doing stuff"

There are countless examples. People who live in the
UK have probably not noticed the slow changes as
much as those of us living outside the UK.

I still speak what was regarded as standard
English in the 1960's and 70s. The last time I was in
London, the son of a friend told me I "sounded like
one of them posh geezers"

I think I need to go to elocution lessons, innit.


Iain





Don Pearce[_3_] January 21st 10 06:25 AM

Is this too mellow?
 
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 09:21:58 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:


"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message
news:iPqdna6s6sXhx8rWnZ2dnUVZ8s1i4p2d@brightview. co.uk...
Iain Churches wrote:
"David Looser" wrote in message
...
"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message
o.uk...
Arny Krueger wrote:
Please remind me why the US is supposed to be jealous of the UK over
*anything*?
There are lot's of things..universal health care for instance... but
here's a link to a really important one. [In an absence way of course]
http://www.kkk.com/

I agree entirely. Our relative lack of religious nutcases: creationists,
Bible literalists and believers in the "rapture", is a real plus not
only
for the UK but for Europe as a whole.

A Swedish friend of mine, a teacher, said to me:
"If I were an Englishman I don't think I would ever
be able to forgive the Americans for the rape of
your language.


The sad thing is your Swedish friend probably spoke better English than a
lot of the products of New Labour's schools. :(



That's a fact:-)

He tells a good story about how, after uni, he
travelled across America and visited Japan. He got a
job in a music store in Chicago, and the secretary to
the owner uses to get him (my pal) to write all the letters
as he was the only one who could a) put a sentence
together, and b) spell. English was his fourth language:-)

He cannot understand (neither can I for that matter) why
things that "can be done" are "doable", and why the friendy
"You are welcome" has given way to "No problem" and
how "guys" can refer to a group of people of either gender,
or what people mean by "doing stuff"

There are countless examples. People who live in the
UK have probably not noticed the slow changes as
much as those of us living outside the UK.

I still speak what was regarded as standard
English in the 1960's and 70s. The last time I was in
London, the son of a friend told me I "sounded like
one of them posh geezers"

I think I need to go to elocution lessons, innit.


All is not lost. I know quite a few young people from around here and
they all speak beautifully modulated English of the traditional kind.
The odd unpleasant neologism has crept in, though, like a tendency to
say "can I get" rather than "may I have" in a restaurant. I have
explained that the waiter will get it so that they may have it, but
they don't really understand.

d

Iain Churches[_2_] January 21st 10 06:31 AM

Is this too mellow?
 

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 09:21:58 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:


"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message
news:iPqdna6s6sXhx8rWnZ2dnUVZ8s1i4p2d@brightview .co.uk...
Iain Churches wrote:
"David Looser" wrote in message
...
"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message
o.uk...
Arny Krueger wrote:
Please remind me why the US is supposed to be jealous of the UK over
*anything*?
There are lot's of things..universal health care for instance... but
here's a link to a really important one. [In an absence way of
course]
http://www.kkk.com/

I agree entirely. Our relative lack of religious nutcases:
creationists,
Bible literalists and believers in the "rapture", is a real plus not
only
for the UK but for Europe as a whole.

A Swedish friend of mine, a teacher, said to me:
"If I were an Englishman I don't think I would ever
be able to forgive the Americans for the rape of
your language.


The sad thing is your Swedish friend probably spoke better English than
a
lot of the products of New Labour's schools. :(



That's a fact:-)

He tells a good story about how, after uni, he
travelled across America and visited Japan. He got a
job in a music store in Chicago, and the secretary to
the owner uses to get him (my pal) to write all the letters
as he was the only one who could a) put a sentence
together, and b) spell. English was his fourth language:-)

He cannot understand (neither can I for that matter) why
things that "can be done" are "doable", and why the friendy
"You are welcome" has given way to "No problem" and
how "guys" can refer to a group of people of either gender,
or what people mean by "doing stuff"

There are countless examples. People who live in the
UK have probably not noticed the slow changes as
much as those of us living outside the UK.

I still speak what was regarded as standard
English in the 1960's and 70s. The last time I was in
London, the son of a friend told me I "sounded like
one of them posh geezers"

I think I need to go to elocution lessons, innit.


All is not lost. I know quite a few young people from around here and
they all speak beautifully modulated English of the traditional kind.
The odd unpleasant neologism has crept in, though, like a tendency to
say "can I get" rather than "may I have" in a restaurant. I have
explained that the waiter will get it so that they may have it, but
they don't really understand.


Glad to hear all is not lost.:-) Perhaps these are the "posh geezers"
to whom the lad was referring?

Iain



Jim Lesurf[_2_] January 21st 10 08:12 AM

Is this too mellow?
 
In article , Iain Churches
wrote:


I still speak what was regarded as standard English in the 1960's and
70s. The last time I was in London, the son of a friend told me I
"sounded like one of them posh geezers"


I think I need to go to elocution lessons, innit.


Nah. Jus get down wiv da yoof. Should help you get into recording the
latest 'stuff'. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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bcoombes January 21st 10 11:13 AM

Is this too mellow?
 
Keith G wrote:

I got nothing to hide,


Fess up Keith, you're another one who's been getting Arny's goat and now you're
afraid they will find all that goat pron on the Mac's drive. ;)

--
Bill Coombes

Iain Churches[_2_] January 21st 10 11:31 AM

Is this too mellow?
 

"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message
o.uk...
Keith G wrote:

I got nothing to hide,


Fess up Keith, you're another one who's been getting Arny's goat and now
you're afraid they will find all that goat pron on the Mac's drive. ;)


Bill. It's much more likely that if Arny's Billy/Nanny
has mysteriously disappeared, it's skin has been used
to make a tambourine:-)



Keith G[_2_] January 21st 10 11:35 AM

Is this too mellow?
 

"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message
o.uk...
Keith G wrote:

I got nothing to hide,


Fess up Keith, you're another one who's been getting Arny's goat and now
you're afraid they will find all that goat pron on the Mac's drive. ;)



Goat pron doesn't bother me - it's the idea that a pic of one of my dear old
mutts could end up floating about in the ether. This pic of a *bodger* (to
confuse the trawlbots) was taken in total blackness through a window on a
'floppy disk' Sony Mavica a long time ago (I photographed the 'crunching'
sounds):

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/Bodger.jpg


I put it on my (then) webpage and about six months later it came through the
door on a sodding wild animal and bird feed brochure!! (There's more....)

I just spoke to Buy It Direct and asked if many people were loath to send
computers back and the nice lady said 'Oh yes, all the time - especially the
clergy!'

OK, I'm joking but it ain't going back - not with my 17,000 pix, 18,000
'unregulated' MP3s, Swim's finances (backed up from her machine) going back
to the year dot as well as some of her work stuff which is very sensitive,
apparently.

So, I'm hoping it's the PSU and that they will check/replace/repair that on
its own, or I'll get one and try it - I'm waiting to hear back now.



Iain Churches[_2_] January 21st 10 11:41 AM

Is this too mellow?
 

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...

The odd unpleasant neologism has crept in, though, like a tendency to
say "can I get" rather than "may I have" in a restaurant. I have
explained that the waiter will get it so that they may have it, but
they don't really understand.


Maybe if, in reply to "Can I get....." the waiter replied:
"Certainly sir, it's on the left, top shelf, as you go through
the kitchen door", then they would understand.

Reminds me of the silly joke about the wine waiter
who recommends a bottle of Hock. The customer,
chuckles, nods, and replies "Hic, Haec, Hoc"
The waiter goes back to the kitchen.

After ten minutes, the customer asks. "Where is
my wine?" The waiter replies. "Sir, you declined it"

Iain



Arny Krueger January 21st 10 12:15 PM

Is this too mellow?
 
"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message

In article , David
wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
snip
5% of all Concordes ever built crashed with all onboard
lost. Only the US space shuttle comes to mind as being
a more dangerous aircraft, and it *is* rocket science.

\snip


This can also be put "There was only ever, in all of
Concorde's 25 year history, one crash, causing 113
fatalities.".


Sounds much better.


Either way, not very reliable as a statistic as the
sample is so small.


Agreed that the evidence does not support reaching any hard-and-fast
conclusions.

What I find interesting is that there were only 2 shuttle failures of about
100 flights, but the failures were widely chronologically separated so that
if you broke the flight schedule into two chronological groups of 50
flights, each group of 50 had a failure. The failures were totally unrelated
in terms of when or how they happened.

Agreed in advance that even this evidence with twice as many failures does
not support reaching any hard-and-fast conclusions.

Both systems (shuttle and Concorde) were SOTA designs that broke a lot of
new ground. Systems involving health and safety are usually engineered right
up front to be able to survive all foreseeable single point failures and the
more likely two point failures. It is not unusual for such systems to have a
lot of lesser but still critical weak points, including some that are not
foreseeable. If two or more of these lesser weak points fail at the same
time the result can be total failure. Of course the probability of each
failure sets design priorities.

Eventually over generations of systems of a kind, they become tolerant of a
wide range of failures, even when several of them happen at the same time.
For example if the main braking system on a car fails, there is still a
manual brake and engine braking. Neither are as effective or as easy to use
as the main brakes, but a somewhat skilled operator can use them to save
himself under most driving conditions.




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