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"Laurence Payne" wrote in message ... On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:48:48 -0000, "Keith G" wrote: Good thinking, but I need to speak to someone about before I do anything - I believe to open these things up you have to split 'em with a putty knifeor summat similar! I got nothing to hide, but all my family photos are on there and pix of my departed dogs - I'd hate to bump into any of them somewhere in the future and my own picture of a badger did drop through the letterbox once!! When I was at college a photograph was taken (I'm admitting nothing) of an accommodating young lady ... well ... accommodating ... a trombone stand. That picture pops up from time to time in most unexpected corners of the globe :-) Do you still view here with muted admiration? |
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"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message o.uk... Iain Churches wrote: "David Looser" wrote in message ... "bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message o.uk... Arny Krueger wrote: Please remind me why the US is supposed to be jealous of the UK over *anything*? There are lot's of things..universal health care for instance... but here's a link to a really important one. [In an absence way of course] http://www.kkk.com/ I agree entirely. Our relative lack of religious nutcases: creationists, Bible literalists and believers in the "rapture", is a real plus not only for the UK but for Europe as a whole. A Swedish friend of mine, a teacher, said to me: "If I were an Englishman I don't think I would ever be able to forgive the Americans for the rape of your language. The sad thing is your Swedish friend probably spoke better English than a lot of the products of New Labour's schools. :( That's a fact:-) He tells a good story about how, after uni, he travelled across America and visited Japan. He got a job in a music store in Chicago, and the secretary to the owner uses to get him (my pal) to write all the letters as he was the only one who could a) put a sentence together, and b) spell. English was his fourth language:-) He cannot understand (neither can I for that matter) why things that "can be done" are "doable", and why the friendy "You are welcome" has given way to "No problem" and how "guys" can refer to a group of people of either gender, or what people mean by "doing stuff" There are countless examples. People who live in the UK have probably not noticed the slow changes as much as those of us living outside the UK. I still speak what was regarded as standard English in the 1960's and 70s. The last time I was in London, the son of a friend told me I "sounded like one of them posh geezers" I think I need to go to elocution lessons, innit. Iain |
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On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 09:21:58 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote: "bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message news:iPqdna6s6sXhx8rWnZ2dnUVZ8s1i4p2d@brightview. co.uk... Iain Churches wrote: "David Looser" wrote in message ... "bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message o.uk... Arny Krueger wrote: Please remind me why the US is supposed to be jealous of the UK over *anything*? There are lot's of things..universal health care for instance... but here's a link to a really important one. [In an absence way of course] http://www.kkk.com/ I agree entirely. Our relative lack of religious nutcases: creationists, Bible literalists and believers in the "rapture", is a real plus not only for the UK but for Europe as a whole. A Swedish friend of mine, a teacher, said to me: "If I were an Englishman I don't think I would ever be able to forgive the Americans for the rape of your language. The sad thing is your Swedish friend probably spoke better English than a lot of the products of New Labour's schools. :( That's a fact:-) He tells a good story about how, after uni, he travelled across America and visited Japan. He got a job in a music store in Chicago, and the secretary to the owner uses to get him (my pal) to write all the letters as he was the only one who could a) put a sentence together, and b) spell. English was his fourth language:-) He cannot understand (neither can I for that matter) why things that "can be done" are "doable", and why the friendy "You are welcome" has given way to "No problem" and how "guys" can refer to a group of people of either gender, or what people mean by "doing stuff" There are countless examples. People who live in the UK have probably not noticed the slow changes as much as those of us living outside the UK. I still speak what was regarded as standard English in the 1960's and 70s. The last time I was in London, the son of a friend told me I "sounded like one of them posh geezers" I think I need to go to elocution lessons, innit. All is not lost. I know quite a few young people from around here and they all speak beautifully modulated English of the traditional kind. The odd unpleasant neologism has crept in, though, like a tendency to say "can I get" rather than "may I have" in a restaurant. I have explained that the waiter will get it so that they may have it, but they don't really understand. d |
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"Don Pearce" wrote in message ... On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 09:21:58 +0200, "Iain Churches" wrote: "bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message news:iPqdna6s6sXhx8rWnZ2dnUVZ8s1i4p2d@brightview .co.uk... Iain Churches wrote: "David Looser" wrote in message ... "bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message o.uk... Arny Krueger wrote: Please remind me why the US is supposed to be jealous of the UK over *anything*? There are lot's of things..universal health care for instance... but here's a link to a really important one. [In an absence way of course] http://www.kkk.com/ I agree entirely. Our relative lack of religious nutcases: creationists, Bible literalists and believers in the "rapture", is a real plus not only for the UK but for Europe as a whole. A Swedish friend of mine, a teacher, said to me: "If I were an Englishman I don't think I would ever be able to forgive the Americans for the rape of your language. The sad thing is your Swedish friend probably spoke better English than a lot of the products of New Labour's schools. :( That's a fact:-) He tells a good story about how, after uni, he travelled across America and visited Japan. He got a job in a music store in Chicago, and the secretary to the owner uses to get him (my pal) to write all the letters as he was the only one who could a) put a sentence together, and b) spell. English was his fourth language:-) He cannot understand (neither can I for that matter) why things that "can be done" are "doable", and why the friendy "You are welcome" has given way to "No problem" and how "guys" can refer to a group of people of either gender, or what people mean by "doing stuff" There are countless examples. People who live in the UK have probably not noticed the slow changes as much as those of us living outside the UK. I still speak what was regarded as standard English in the 1960's and 70s. The last time I was in London, the son of a friend told me I "sounded like one of them posh geezers" I think I need to go to elocution lessons, innit. All is not lost. I know quite a few young people from around here and they all speak beautifully modulated English of the traditional kind. The odd unpleasant neologism has crept in, though, like a tendency to say "can I get" rather than "may I have" in a restaurant. I have explained that the waiter will get it so that they may have it, but they don't really understand. Glad to hear all is not lost.:-) Perhaps these are the "posh geezers" to whom the lad was referring? Iain |
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wrote: I still speak what was regarded as standard English in the 1960's and 70s. The last time I was in London, the son of a friend told me I "sounded like one of them posh geezers" I think I need to go to elocution lessons, innit. Nah. Jus get down wiv da yoof. Should help you get into recording the latest 'stuff'. :-) Slainte, Jim -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
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Keith G wrote:
I got nothing to hide, Fess up Keith, you're another one who's been getting Arny's goat and now you're afraid they will find all that goat pron on the Mac's drive. ;) -- Bill Coombes |
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"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message o.uk... Keith G wrote: I got nothing to hide, Fess up Keith, you're another one who's been getting Arny's goat and now you're afraid they will find all that goat pron on the Mac's drive. ;) Bill. It's much more likely that if Arny's Billy/Nanny has mysteriously disappeared, it's skin has been used to make a tambourine:-) |
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"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message o.uk... Keith G wrote: I got nothing to hide, Fess up Keith, you're another one who's been getting Arny's goat and now you're afraid they will find all that goat pron on the Mac's drive. ;) Goat pron doesn't bother me - it's the idea that a pic of one of my dear old mutts could end up floating about in the ether. This pic of a *bodger* (to confuse the trawlbots) was taken in total blackness through a window on a 'floppy disk' Sony Mavica a long time ago (I photographed the 'crunching' sounds): http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/Bodger.jpg I put it on my (then) webpage and about six months later it came through the door on a sodding wild animal and bird feed brochure!! (There's more....) I just spoke to Buy It Direct and asked if many people were loath to send computers back and the nice lady said 'Oh yes, all the time - especially the clergy!' OK, I'm joking but it ain't going back - not with my 17,000 pix, 18,000 'unregulated' MP3s, Swim's finances (backed up from her machine) going back to the year dot as well as some of her work stuff which is very sensitive, apparently. So, I'm hoping it's the PSU and that they will check/replace/repair that on its own, or I'll get one and try it - I'm waiting to hear back now. |
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"Don Pearce" wrote in message ... The odd unpleasant neologism has crept in, though, like a tendency to say "can I get" rather than "may I have" in a restaurant. I have explained that the waiter will get it so that they may have it, but they don't really understand. Maybe if, in reply to "Can I get....." the waiter replied: "Certainly sir, it's on the left, top shelf, as you go through the kitchen door", then they would understand. Reminds me of the silly joke about the wine waiter who recommends a bottle of Hock. The customer, chuckles, nods, and replies "Hic, Haec, Hoc" The waiter goes back to the kitchen. After ten minutes, the customer asks. "Where is my wine?" The waiter replies. "Sir, you declined it" Iain |
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
In article , David wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... snip 5% of all Concordes ever built crashed with all onboard lost. Only the US space shuttle comes to mind as being a more dangerous aircraft, and it *is* rocket science. \snip This can also be put "There was only ever, in all of Concorde's 25 year history, one crash, causing 113 fatalities.". Sounds much better. Either way, not very reliable as a statistic as the sample is so small. Agreed that the evidence does not support reaching any hard-and-fast conclusions. What I find interesting is that there were only 2 shuttle failures of about 100 flights, but the failures were widely chronologically separated so that if you broke the flight schedule into two chronological groups of 50 flights, each group of 50 had a failure. The failures were totally unrelated in terms of when or how they happened. Agreed in advance that even this evidence with twice as many failures does not support reaching any hard-and-fast conclusions. Both systems (shuttle and Concorde) were SOTA designs that broke a lot of new ground. Systems involving health and safety are usually engineered right up front to be able to survive all foreseeable single point failures and the more likely two point failures. It is not unusual for such systems to have a lot of lesser but still critical weak points, including some that are not foreseeable. If two or more of these lesser weak points fail at the same time the result can be total failure. Of course the probability of each failure sets design priorities. Eventually over generations of systems of a kind, they become tolerant of a wide range of failures, even when several of them happen at the same time. For example if the main braking system on a car fails, there is still a manual brake and engine braking. Neither are as effective or as easy to use as the main brakes, but a somewhat skilled operator can use them to save himself under most driving conditions. |
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