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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:35:31 -0000, "David Looser"
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"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message
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Arny Krueger wrote:

Please remind me why the US is supposed to be jealous of the UK over
*anything*?

There are lot's of things..universal health care for instance... but
here's a link to a really important one. [In an absence way of course]
http://www.kkk.com/


I agree entirely. Our relative lack of religious nutcases: creationists,
Bible literalists and believers in the "rapture", is a real plus not only
for the UK but for Europe as a whole.


But in turn we must envy Americans their constitutional separation of
church and state, while we are obliged to fund the church of england
and the inbred cretins of the royal family who run it.


We don't fund the CofE. We *do*, partially, fund the historic churches and
Cathedrals, but we'd have to do that anyway. As for the "inbred cretins of
the royal family", they are cheaper than any presidency would be, and they
don't run the CofE, ever heard of the General Synod?

The main point is, though, that the CofE is harmless, whilst the religious
nutters who are so powerful in the US are not.

David.

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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:46:14 -0000, "David Looser"
wrote:

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:35:31 -0000, "David Looser"
wrote:

"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message
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Arny Krueger wrote:

Please remind me why the US is supposed to be jealous of the UK over
*anything*?

There are lot's of things..universal health care for instance... but
here's a link to a really important one. [In an absence way of course]
http://www.kkk.com/


I agree entirely. Our relative lack of religious nutcases: creationists,
Bible literalists and believers in the "rapture", is a real plus not only
for the UK but for Europe as a whole.


But in turn we must envy Americans their constitutional separation of
church and state, while we are obliged to fund the church of england
and the inbred cretins of the royal family who run it.


We don't fund the CofE. We *do*, partially, fund the historic churches and
Cathedrals, but we'd have to do that anyway. As for the "inbred cretins of
the royal family", they are cheaper than any presidency would be, and they
don't run the CofE, ever heard of the General Synod?


The queen is the head of the c of e. and when she dies her cretinous,
moslem-loving son will take over. Do you really fancy that? I'll opt
to pay whatever it costs to be a republic any day.

The main point is, though, that the CofE is harmless, whilst the religious
nutters who are so powerful in the US are not.

David.



You reckon our resident nutter the archbishop of Canterbury is
harmless? I don't. And all the while the bishops hold seats in the
house of lords as of right, we are living in a partial theocracy. I
don't like it.

d

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"David Looser" wrote in message
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"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message
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Arny Krueger wrote:

Please remind me why the US is supposed to be jealous of the UK over
*anything*?

There are lot's of things..universal health care for instance... but
here's a link to a really important one. [In an absence way of course]
http://www.kkk.com/


I agree entirely. Our relative lack of religious nutcases: creationists,
Bible literalists and believers in the "rapture", is a real plus not only
for the UK but for Europe as a whole.

A Swedish friend of mine, a teacher, said to me:
"If I were an Englishman I don't think I would ever
be able to forgive the Americans for the rape of
your language.

Is this too mellow?
 

Don Pearce wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:35:31 -0000, "David Looser"
wrote:

"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message
o.uk...
Arny Krueger wrote:
Please remind me why the US is supposed to be jealous of the UK over
*anything*?
There are lot's of things..universal health care for instance... but
here's a link to a really important one. [In an absence way of course]
http://www.kkk.com/

I agree entirely. Our relative lack of religious nutcases: creationists,
Bible literalists and believers in the "rapture", is a real plus not only
for the UK but for Europe as a whole.


But in turn we must envy Americans their constitutional separation of
church and state, while we are obliged to fund the church of england
and the inbred cretins of the royal family who run it.


Theoretical constitutional separation they may have but in actuality the
religious right ran the USA for large chunks of the last decade and were in a
position to do *MUCH* more harm [to America and the world] than the C of E or
our royals. And now, horror of horrors, comes the rise of Sarah Palin...arch
imbecile who makes any of our royals look like Albert Einstein.


--
Bill Coombes

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Iain Churches wrote:
"David Looser" wrote in message
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"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message
o.uk...
Arny Krueger wrote:
Please remind me why the US is supposed to be jealous of the UK over
*anything*?
There are lot's of things..universal health care for instance... but
here's a link to a really important one. [In an absence way of course]
http://www.kkk.com/

I agree entirely. Our relative lack of religious nutcases: creationists,
Bible literalists and believers in the "rapture", is a real plus not only
for the UK but for Europe as a whole.

A Swedish friend of mine, a teacher, said to me:
"If I were an Englishman I don't think I would ever
be able to forgive the Americans for the rape of
your language.


The sad thing is your Swedish friend probably spoke better English than a lot of
the products of New Labour's schools. :(

--
Bill Coombes

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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:29:10 +0000, bcoombes bcoombes@orangedotnet
wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:35:31 -0000, "David Looser"
wrote:

"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message
o.uk...
Arny Krueger wrote:
Please remind me why the US is supposed to be jealous of the UK over
*anything*?
There are lot\'s of things..universal health care for instance... but
here\'s a link to a really important one. [In an absence way of course]
http://www.kkk.com/

I agree entirely. Our relative lack of religious nutcases: creationists,
Bible literalists and believers in the "rapture", is a real plus not only
for the UK but for Europe as a whole.


But in turn we must envy Americans their constitutional separation of
church and state, while we are obliged to fund the church of england
and the inbred cretins of the royal family who run it.


Theoretical constitutional separation they may have but in actuality the
religious right ran the USA for large chunks of the last decade and were in a
position to do *MUCH* more harm [to America and the world] than the C of E or
our royals. And now, horror of horrors, comes the rise of Sarah Palin...arch
imbecile who makes any of our royals look like Albert Einstein.

The churches in America are just crooked rackets like any other, and
the money they scam out of their victims is simply the proceeds of
crime. Here the same activity is actually legislated for. But you are
right in a way. It is the very fact that the church is forced upon us
that allows us to reject it so easily.

d

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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:33:14 +0000, bcoombes bcoombes@orangedotnet
wrote:

Iain Churches wrote:
"David Looser" wrote in message
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"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message
o.uk...
Arny Krueger wrote:
Please remind me why the US is supposed to be jealous of the UK over
*anything*?
There are lot\'s of things..universal health care for instance... but
here\'s a link to a really important one. [In an absence way of course]
http://www.kkk.com/

I agree entirely. Our relative lack of religious nutcases: creationists,
Bible literalists and believers in the "rapture", is a real plus not only
for the UK but for Europe as a whole.

A Swedish friend of mine, a teacher, said to me:
"If I were an Englishman I don\'t think I would ever
be able to forgive the Americans for the rape of
your language.


The sad thing is your Swedish friend probably spoke better English than a lot of
the products of New Labour\'s schools. :(

He certainly understood the use of the subjunctive mood. How many
twenty-somethings could match that?

d

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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:46:14 -0000, "David Looser"
wrote:

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:35:31 -0000, "David Looser"
wrote:

"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message
news:T9udnaLbnryJ1MrWnZ2dnUVZ8t6dnZ2d@brightvi ew.co.uk...
Arny Krueger wrote:

Please remind me why the US is supposed to be jealous of the UK over
*anything*?

There are lot\'s of things..universal health care for instance... but
here\'s a link to a really important one. [In an absence way of course]
http://www.kkk.com/


I agree entirely. Our relative lack of religious nutcases: creationists,
Bible literalists and believers in the "rapture", is a real plus not
only
for the UK but for Europe as a whole.


But in turn we must envy Americans their constitutional separation of
church and state, while we are obliged to fund the church of england
and the inbred cretins of the royal family who run it.


We don\'t fund the CofE. We *do*, partially, fund the historic churches
and
Cathedrals, but we\'d have to do that anyway. As for the "inbred cretins of
the royal family", they are cheaper than any presidency would be, and they
don\'t run the CofE, ever heard of the General Synod?


The queen is the head of the c of e. and when she dies her cretinous,
moslem-loving son will take over.

The Queen\'s position as head of the CofE is entirely nominal. And where does
this "moslem-loving" bit come from? Why does it bother you that a
"moslem-loving" person is going to be nominal head of the CofE? Would you
rather have a Muslim-hating Christian fundamentalist in that role?

Do you really fancy that? I\'ll opt
to pay whatever it costs to be a republic any day.

The main point is, though, that the CofE is harmless, whilst the religious
nutters who are so powerful in the US are not.


You reckon our resident nutter the archbishop of Canterbury is
harmless?

Yes.

I don\'t.

No? what harm do you think he does? And how do you think it compares to the
sort of people who would push the world towards nuclear war because they
think it\'s helping to fulfill Biblical prophesy?

And all the while the bishops hold seats in the
house of lords as of right, we are living in a partial theocracy. I
don\'t like it.

It\'s not my ideal either, but there are plenty of things that bother me
infinitely more, such as the presence on British soil of American sovereign
military bases. It feels like living in an occupied country, and I don\'t
like it.

David.

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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:44:33 -0000, "David Looser"
wrote:

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:46:14 -0000, "David Looser"
wrote:

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:35:31 -0000, "David Looser"
wrote:

"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message
news:T9udnaLbnryJ1MrWnZ2dnUVZ8t6dnZ2d@brightv iew.co.uk...
Arny Krueger wrote:

Please remind me why the US is supposed to be jealous of the UK over
*anything*?

There are lot\'s of things..universal health care for instance... but
here\'s a link to a really important one. [In an absence way of course]
http://www.kkk.com/


I agree entirely. Our relative lack of religious nutcases: creationists,
Bible literalists and believers in the "rapture", is a real plus not
only
for the UK but for Europe as a whole.


But in turn we must envy Americans their constitutional separation of
church and state, while we are obliged to fund the church of england
and the inbred cretins of the royal family who run it.


We don\'t fund the CofE. We *do*, partially, fund the historic churches
and
Cathedrals, but we\'d have to do that anyway. As for the "inbred cretins of
the royal family", they are cheaper than any presidency would be, and they
don\'t run the CofE, ever heard of the General Synod?


The queen is the head of the c of e. and when she dies her cretinous,
moslem-loving son will take over.

The Queen\'s position as head of the CofE is entirely nominal. And where does
this "moslem-loving" bit come from? Why does it bother you that a
"moslem-loving" person is going to be nominal head of the CofE? Would you
rather have a Muslim-hating Christian fundamentalist in that role?


All religions are at their heart evil, but currently Islam is the
worst of the bunch. I don\'t want anybody who likes islam in charge -
even nominally - of anything in my country.

Do you really fancy that? I\'ll opt
to pay whatever it costs to be a republic any day.

The main point is, though, that the CofE is harmless, whilst the religious
nutters who are so powerful in the US are not.


You reckon our resident nutter the archbishop of Canterbury is
harmless?

Yes.

I don\'t.


Even though he has proposed that Sharia law be adopted by any of the
population that want it? How deep does the wedge have to be driven
before you see it is no longer just the thin edge?

No? what harm do you think he does? And how do you think it compares to the
sort of people who would push the world towards nuclear war because they
think it\'s helping to fulfill Biblical prophesy?

And all the while the bishops hold seats in the
house of lords as of right, we are living in a partial theocracy. I
don\'t like it.

It\'s not my ideal either, but there are plenty of things that bother me
infinitely more, such as the presence on British soil of American sovereign
military bases. It feels like living in an occupied country, and I don\'t
like it.


That bothers me far less. Those americans have no voting rights here
and they don\'t sit in our cabinet. I\'m quite happy to pay host to
them. We ask the same privilege of other countries - it is quite
common practice.

d

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Don Pearce wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:44:33 -0000, "David Looser"
wrote:

All religions are at their heart evil,

Bit sweeping don\'t you think?


but currently Islam is the worst of the bunch. I don\'t want anybody who likes islam in charge -
even nominally - of anything in my country.

Quite agree there.

Even though he has proposed that Sharia law be adopted by any of the
population that want it? How deep does the wedge have to be driven
before you see it is no longer just the thin edge?

Quite so.

That bothers me far less. Those americans have no voting rights here
and they don\'t sit in our cabinet.

Maybe not but they control vast tracts of corporate England which in turn
controls most of what goes on here. I\'m not saying that things would be better
under Chinese, Russian or EU hegemony..it\'s just that it\'s the Americans who do
run things one way or another so they have to be up for the criticism.

--
Bill Coombes