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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:06:14 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

The way I have it is you record only the one ensemble -
no?

If you are talking about the church thing, there are actually two overapping
ensembles, the traditional ensemble and the contemporary ensemble. There is
also the speech, the drama, and production and some authoring of audio and
video that is used various ways, including accompianment.

The band and choir festival thing which is starting shortly, involves well
over 100 ensembles per year.

And Arny's going to record them all! Right down to 32Hz.

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"Laurence Payne" wrote in message

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:00:08 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Within the music-recording community it's best
to use them correctly, else you'll have to make constant
explanations of your personal usage.

I can be circumspect around people who like to think
they are more knowledgeable than the average bear. Thing
is, we all need to be knowledgeable about the average
bear.

Wriggle away. You know perfectly well where you're
posting.

I love baiting pedants and other stuffed shirts.

Use appropriate terminology if you want to be
understood.

Laurence the fact that you are taking exception in the way that you are
shows that you really understand what I am saying, but are objecting with
volume and force to puff yourself up. Strut on, dude! ;-)

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"Laurence Payne" wrote in message

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:06:14 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

The way I have it is you record only the one ensemble -
no?

If you are talking about the church thing, there are
actually two overlapping ensembles, the traditional
ensemble and the contemporary ensemble. There is also
the speech, the drama, and production and some authoring
of audio and video that is used various ways, including
accompaniment.

The band and choir festival thing which is starting
shortly, involves well over 100 ensembles per year.

And Arny's going to record them all! Right down to 32Hz.

As far as the festival work goes, down to whatever a NT4 does. ;-)

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"Keith G" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:

'Who Groves is'....???

Well Kitty, I can take that as a claim by you that there never was a person
named Grove who was related to this work:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grove_D..._and_Musicians

Grove's Dictionary
It was first published as A Dictionary of Music and Musicians in four
volumes (1878, 1880, 1883, 1899) edited by Sir George Grove with an Appendix
edited by J. A. Fuller Maitland and an Index edited by Mrs. Edmund
Wodehouse.

LOL!

He's got no ****ing idea has he? Wot a bull****ter!!

Speaking in the vernacular around here is a ton of fun.

Wot a great way to bait the local pedants!

LOL!

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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:


So one and all, read Bobby's book about mixing, but it
will be a cosmic waste of time unless you actually go
hands one with a mixing console fairly often. Good fun
for technical voyeurs, and there's nothing wrong with
that. But, its not me. For me mixing fair-sized events
is a participant sport that I play several times a week.

The way I have it is you record only the one ensemble -
no?

If you are talking about the church thing,



Yes, 'the church thing' I suppose...



there are actually two overapping
ensembles, the traditional ensemble and the contemporary ensemble. There is
also the speech, the drama, and production and some authoring of audio and
video that is used various ways, including accompianment.



And they want/need *everything* recorded...??

(Don't they ever get fed up of the mics??)



The band and choir festival thing which is starting shortly, involves well
over 100 ensembles per year.



Sorry, I don't understand what that means - the festival is a year's
recordings...??

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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:

'Who Groves is'....???

Well Kitty, I can take that as a claim by you that there never was a person
named Grove who was related to this work:



Somebody open a window, please....




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grove_D..._and_Musicians

Grove's Dictionary
It was first published as A Dictionary of Music and Musicians in four
volumes (1878, 1880, 1883, 1899) edited by Sir George Grove with an Appendix
edited by J. A. Fuller Maitland and an Index edited by Mrs. Edmund
Wodehouse.

LOL!

He's got no ****ing idea has he? Wot a bull****ter!!

Speaking in the vernacular around here is a ton of fun.

Wot a great way to bait the local pedants!

LOL!




Nice try Amy - keep wriggling if you want, but it isn't working...

;-)

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Also, the American idea of bass seems to in
general run far richer.

And yet you proposed "a broad dip" around 100Hz.

That might be your idea of bass, Iain.

But you contradict yourself with your statement
above, and then thinning out the LF.

No contradiction at all. In fact the two statements
are exactly complementary.

I don't consider 100 Hz to be bass. I consider it to
be the lowest end of midrange. I consider 32-64 Hz
to be bass.

The string bass is, as its name suggests, a bass
instrument? It's low E is 41Hz and a B, played on the
G string is 246 Hz

Obviously Iain has no clue about the bass instruments
that are used in contemporary music.

By contemporary music, most of us mean classical music
written since 1945. (see Grove's)

LOL!

Thanks a lot Iain for definatively showing that you
don't live in the same universe as just about everybody.

Almost all people alive today think that contemporary
music is the music that is played and listened to by
almost all of the people who our contemporaries.
Virtually none of them know who Groves is, or would care
what he says if they do.


Grove is a music reference dictionary,a standard work, in
four volumes not a person:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grove_D..._and_Musicians

Look up contemporary music.....

Talk about basing your life on books that almost nobody (in the real
world) ever reads! Far more people have read the Bible, which is another
book that few people actually read or follow.

Grove is a standard work - found in every library - conservatory of
music. It is a fundamental source of information for all musicians,
just as the works of Shakespeare are to students of language and
literature. The fact that you did not know about it, comes as
no surprtise:-)

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"Keith G" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:


So one and all, read Bobby's book about mixing, but it
will be a cosmic waste of time unless you actually go
hands one with a mixing console fairly often. Good fun
for technical voyeurs, and there's nothing wrong with
that. But, its not me. For me mixing fair-sized events
is a participant sport that I play several times a
week.

The way I have it is you record only the one ensemble -
no?

If you are talking about the church thing,

Yes, 'the church thing' I suppose...

there are actually two overapping
ensembles, the traditional ensemble and the contemporary
ensemble. There is also the speech, the drama, and
production and some authoring of audio and video that is
used various ways, including accompianment.

And they want/need *everything* recorded...??

Part of the job.

(Don't they ever get fed up of the mics??)

If there were no mics and the technology behind them, many of them would
never be heard by the audience.

The band and choir festival thing which is starting
shortly, involves well over 100 ensembles per year.

Sorry, I don't understand what that means - the festival
is a year's recordings...??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_festival

"Another type of music festival is the educative type, organised annually in
local communities, regionally or nationally, for the benefit of amateur
musicians of all ages and grades of achievement. While entrants perform
prepared pieces in the presence of an audience which includes competitors,
the essential feature of this type of festival is that each participant
receives verbal and written feedback, there and then, from a highly
qualified, professional adjudicator - someone who they might never meet in
any other way. They also usually receive a certificate, classified according
to merit, and some may win trophies. The competitive element is often played
down, however, as the important aspect is that participants can learn from
one another. Such festivals aim to provide a friendly and supportive
platform for musicians to share in the excitement of making music. For many
they provide a bridge between lessons & examinations and performing
confidently in public"

I am totally blown away by this definition because it succinctly and
accurately describes a relatively large process involving thousands of
people so completely and subtly. Particularly, "The competitive element is
often played down, however, as the important aspect is that participants can
learn from one another."

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"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:06:14 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

The way I have it is you record only the one ensemble -
no?

If you are talking about the church thing, there are actually two
overapping
ensembles, the traditional ensemble and the contemporary ensemble. There
is
also the speech, the drama, and production and some authoring of audio and
video that is used various ways, including accompianment.

The band and choir festival thing which is starting shortly, involves well
over 100 ensembles per year.

And Arny's going to record them all! Right down to 32Hz.

And provide hundreds of links for our deep pleasure
and edification.

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"Iain Churches" wrote in message


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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Talk about basing your life on books that almost nobody
(in the real world) ever reads! Far more people have
read the Bible, which is another book that few people
actually read or follow.

Grove is a standard work - found in every library -
conservatory of music.

Of course, but who goes to those places? The libraries are reasonably
well-attended, but how many go to the reference and/or music stacks?

It is a fundamental source of
information for all musicians, just as the works of
Shakespeare are to students of language and literature.

With the level of musicians that I work, I would suspect that less than a
third of the adults and almost none of the children know what Grove's is.


The fact that you did not know about it, comes as no surprtise:-)

Iain's ego kicks in again, making him babble.