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"bcoombes" bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote in message
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Keith G wrote:



Bill, if I may say so, you are wrong to use that Dog Latin - it will very
quickly degenerate into the liberal use of phrases like:

"Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam
possit materiari?"


??...not a phrase or saying I know...something about wood chucks and
marble?


This is usenet, I'll say what I like, you say what what

you like, Dave can say what he likes. In the meantime if you haven't got
anything constructive to add STFU.


But IMO you were quite right to tell that TC 'wannabee moderator' to ****
off....


In so many words. :)


In so many words....

;-)

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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:07:26 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

Can you imagine a boom operator with
headphones and a fishpole at a church service:-)))

Only if a technical volunteer developed extreme delusions of grandeur.
Which, of course, could never happen :-)

:-))

A colleague and I have been trying to visualise the
scene. A boom op in jeans, and back-to-front
baseball cap and a t-shirt on which is printed:
"Jesus Saves. Moses Invests"


Actually, I think you'll find the Jews *hate* Moses: he comes out of Egypt
by way of the Red Sea, turns left and gets the Golan Heights - if he'd
turned right, he'd have got the oil...!!

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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:07:26 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

Can you imagine a boom operator with
headphones and a fishpole at a church service:-)))

Only if a technical volunteer developed extreme delusions of grandeur.
Which, of course, could never happen :-)

:-))

A colleague and I have been trying to visualise the
scene. A boom op in jeans, and back-to-front
baseball cap and a t-shirt on which is printed:
"Jesus Saves. Moses Invests"


Actually, I think you'll find the Jews *hate* Moses: he comes out of Egypt
by way of the Red Sea, turns left and gets the Golan Heights - if he'd
turned right, he'd have got the oil...!!

I wonder. Could we get all that in letters of a readable
size on the boom op's t-shirt?

:-)

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In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
Strictly speaking a boom is a very large mic stand on tripod
legs. In music we are careful to differentiate between boom
and stand for obvious reasons:-)

That is indeed where the term originated. Now apologise for calling a pole
a boom. They are not the same thing to a qualified technical person.

Booms are motorised for broadcast but static booms are
used for music recording.

Dunno what sort of 'broadcast' you're talking about but the sort of boom
used in TV and film studios is *not* motorised. It is controlled by a
series of bowden cables on pulleys. So purely mechanical.

They are large enough to reach
over the string section of a symphony orchestra, and have
cranks to raise the height of the main shaft, and to extend
the boom arm. Some have a pulley system to adjust the mic
cradle. Once set. they remain in that position for music
recording, so no operator is required.

The very first studio booms were an adaptation of that where controls for
panning the mic were added - but the whole thing had to be moved in and
out to position the mic in that plane. The next refinements added a
telescopic arm. Later, the ability to tilt the mic too.

--
*Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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"Iain Churches" wrote in message

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:53:23 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

What's he using now? Where's the mic? A cheap system
on a boom will sound much better than an expensive one
on the lapel.

Unless you've got a boom operator (way over the top for
a church this size)
the boom tethers the pastor, and that's highly
counter-productive.

You deliberately misunderstand "boom" I think :-)

Can you imagine a boom operator with
headphones and a fishpole at a church service:-)))

A regular boom mic immobilizes the pastor which is totally unacceptable
these days, so you couldn't possibly mean such a thing! ;-)

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
bcoombes bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
bcoombes bcoombes@orangedotnet wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
Can you imagine a boom operator with
headphones and a fishpole at a church service:-)))
Make up your mind. Either boom or pole. The correct terminology in the
UK is 'pole for a hand held device. A boom is a studio device where
the mic is controlled via effectively remote controls at the other
end. A studio boom op can usually be immediately proficient on a
'pole - assuming he has the physical strength. The reverse is not the
case. Learning to operate a studio boom well takes a deal of time.
Just one of the many skills needed for TV sound that you know nothing
about.

Whooosh!!!
Another Humpty Dumpty. Who thinks words mean just what he wants them
to.


Got your grumpy panties on today huh?

Nope - never grumpy. Just blunt in a polite sort of way.


Ok then, I should have said you've got your blunt but polite panties on.

--
Bill Coombes

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"Laurence Payne" wrote in message

On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:07:26 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

Can you imagine a boom operator with
headphones and a fishpole at a church service:-)))

Only if a technical volunteer developed extreme delusions
of grandeur. Which, of course, could never happen :-)

This is done in some very large churches. Not a fishpole but a motorized
boom.

No delusions of grandeur needed - just a need to do TV at the same time,
either broadcast or a private network for multiple locations.

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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:07:26 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

Can you imagine a boom operator with
headphones and a fishpole at a church service:-)))

Only if a technical volunteer developed extreme delusions of grandeur.
Which, of course, could never happen :-)

:-))

A colleague and I have been trying to visualise the
scene. A boom op in jeans, and back-to-front
baseball cap and a t-shirt on which is printed:
"Jesus Saves. Moses Invests"


Actually, I think you'll find the Jews *hate* Moses: he comes out of
Egypt by way of the Red Sea, turns left and gets the Golan Heights - if
he'd turned right, he'd have got the oil...!!

I wonder. Could we get all that in letters of a readable
size on the boom op's t-shirt?


Probably best to settle for a little label right at the end of the pole with
the words on it: "Nearer, my God, to thee, nearer to thee...."

:-)

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
Strictly speaking a boom is a very large mic stand on tripod
legs. In music we are careful to differentiate between boom
and stand for obvious reasons:-)

That is indeed where the term originated. Now apologise for calling a pole
a boom.

Actually if you check carefully, you will find I did not
do that. I referred to a boom op with a fishpole.


Booms are motorised for broadcast but static booms are
used for music recording.

Dunno what sort of 'broadcast' you're talking about but the sort of boom
used in TV and film studios is *not* motorised.

Then you have fallen behind both German and Swedish
TV who use remote control motorised booms.

Iain

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In article ,
Arny Krueger wrote:
A regular boom mic immobilizes the pastor which is totally unacceptable
these days, so you couldn't possibly mean such a thing! ;-)

In the UK, that is known as a lazy arm stand. Or at least in broadcasting.
A boom is the sort of device used in TV and film studios - invariably made
by Fisher these days and costs a small fortune new.

Fisher, BTW, was (is?) a US boom op who rightly disliked the Mole
Richardson design which was the most common one before and decided to make
one which did what he wanted. And when a good operator designs something
to make his life easier you can get a classic design. It was almost an
open source design as many minor mods that other boom ops suggested were
later incorporated.

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*Why do we say something is out of whack? What is a whack? *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.