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Dave Plowman (News) January 29th 10 08:29 AM

Radio Mics
 
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
Dunno what sort of 'broadcast' you're talking about but the sort of
boom used in TV and film studios is *not* motorised.


Then you have fallen behind both German and Swedish
TV who use remote control motorised booms.


To set a semi-permanent mic position or to follow action?

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Arny Krueger January 29th 10 11:15 AM

Radio Mics
 
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in
message
In article
, Arny
Krueger wrote:


A regular boom mic immobilizes the pastor which is
totally unacceptable these days, so you couldn't
possibly mean such a thing! ;-)


In the UK, that is known as a lazy arm stand.


In the US, boom and mini-boom.

I mostly use what we call a "mini-boom" which is composed of a telescoping,
locking sliding arm attached to the top of a standard round-base mic stand
by a clamping, rotating joint. On occasion the required arm extension and/or
microphone weight makes this assembly unstable, so a 10 pound barbell weight
slipped over the upright, sitting on top of the metal base. Major feature
is that it works and it is cheap - less than $50 per.

Or at least
in broadcasting. A boom is the sort of device used in TV
and film studios - invariably made by Fisher these days
and costs a small fortune new.


I looked up Fisher booms and they look like quite the thing. Rather
intrusive and overkill for our purposes. But clearly the right tool for a
certain job.

Fisher, BTW, was (is?) a US boom op who rightly disliked
the Mole Richardson design which was the most common one
before and decided to make one which did what he wanted.
And when a good operator designs something to make his
life easier you can get a classic design. It was almost
an open source design as many minor mods that other boom
ops suggested were later incorporated.


Looks like it would have a place in TV & film.



Dave Plowman (News) January 29th 10 12:10 PM

Radio Mics
 
In article ,
Arny Krueger wrote:
I looked up Fisher booms and they look like quite the thing. Rather
intrusive and overkill for our purposes. But clearly the right tool for a
certain job.


Fisher, BTW, was (is?) a US boom op who rightly disliked
the Mole Richardson design which was the most common one
before and decided to make one which did what he wanted.
And when a good operator designs something to make his
life easier you can get a classic design. It was almost
an open source design as many minor mods that other boom
ops suggested were later incorporated.


Looks like it would have a place in TV & film.


They are essential for some sort of things. Of course radio mics [spit]
are preferred now for many that were once the province of the boom.

But if you have audience participation a Fisher boom with a decent
operator can cover three times as many people as a fishpole and get there
quicker. Other thing is you can operate one for very long periods without
a break. Not possible with a pole held above your head. Just try it if you
don't believe me. ;-)

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Laurence Payne[_2_] January 29th 10 12:51 PM

Radio Mics
 
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:28:13 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

A regular boom mic immobilizes the pastor which is totally unacceptable
these days, so you couldn't possibly mean such a thing! ;-)


In the UK, that is known as a lazy arm stand. Or at least in broadcasting.
A boom is the sort of device used in TV and film studios - invariably made
by Fisher these days and costs a small fortune new.


If you Google "boom microphone" you will find that as well as the
accepted usage film and TV usage the term is currently used to
describe a type of headset. Dave may disapprove of this. But it is
so.

So there!

Dave Plowman (News) January 29th 10 02:19 PM

Radio Mics
 
In article ,
Laurence Payne wrote:
If you Google "boom microphone" you will find that as well as the
accepted usage film and TV usage the term is currently used to
describe a type of headset. Dave may disapprove of this. But it is
so.


Indeed. Arny has also used it to describe a type of mic stand with a
horizontal (adjustable) bit added.

I was merely pulling Mr Churches up on the pro use of the term -
something he feels so important in his own limited field.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Iain Churches[_2_] January 29th 10 03:25 PM

Radio Mics
 

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:28:13 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

A regular boom mic immobilizes the pastor which is totally unacceptable
these days, so you couldn't possibly mean such a thing! ;-)


In the UK, that is known as a lazy arm stand. Or at least in broadcasting.
A boom is the sort of device used in TV and film studios - invariably made
by Fisher these days and costs a small fortune new.


If you Google "boom microphone" you will find that as well as the
accepted usage film and TV usage the term is currently used to
describe a type of headset. Dave may disapprove of this. But it is
so.


The same goes for mic boom which seems to be used to
include the standard mic floor stand.

Maybe Dave's terminology is ex-BBC.
For example the STC 4021 mic known as the "apple and
biscuit" was know as the "ball and biscuit" outside the
Beeb.

Iain




Dave Plowman (News) January 29th 10 04:49 PM

Radio Mics
 
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
If you Google "boom microphone" you will find that as well as the
accepted usage film and TV usage the term is currently used to
describe a type of headset. Dave may disapprove of this. But it is
so.


The same goes for mic boom which seems to be used to
include the standard mic floor stand.


Maybe Dave's terminology is ex-BBC.
For example the STC 4021 mic known as the "apple and
biscuit" was know as the "ball and biscuit" outside the
Beeb.


The special cables for STC mics were called thistle cables at BBC TV as
was the mic - which wasn't in use anymore by the time I joined them except
for talkback.

I then worked for Thames TV who used much the same terms - certainly for
booms. Not much point in telling the lads we need two booms if they're
going to get two fishpoles or stands or headsets, is there now Iain?
Even more so these days as a freelance. People come from everywhere now.
But I'd expect anyone turning up to work in a studio to know what a boom
is regardless of where they're from.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Keith G[_2_] January 29th 10 06:25 PM

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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
...

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:28:13 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

A regular boom mic immobilizes the pastor which is totally unacceptable
these days, so you couldn't possibly mean such a thing! ;-)

In the UK, that is known as a lazy arm stand. Or at least in
broadcasting.
A boom is the sort of device used in TV and film studios - invariably
made
by Fisher these days and costs a small fortune new.


If you Google "boom microphone" you will find that as well as the
accepted usage film and TV usage the term is currently used to
describe a type of headset. Dave may disapprove of this. But it is
so.


The same goes for mic boom which seems to be used to
include the standard mic floor stand.

Maybe Dave's terminology is ex-BBC.
For example the STC 4021 mic known as the "apple and
biscuit" was know as the "ball and biscuit" outside the
Beeb.



I think you'll find it's a Wine Bar now....

;-)





Dave Plowman (News) January 29th 10 11:24 PM

Radio Mics
 
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
For example the STC 4021 mic known as the "apple and
biscuit" was know as the "ball and biscuit" outside the
Beeb.



I think you'll find it's a Wine Bar now....


Please go and have a drink there then. Plenty of asbestos to flavour it
with.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Iain Churches[_2_] January 30th 10 06:39 AM

Radio Mics
 

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
...

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:28:13 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

A regular boom mic immobilizes the pastor which is totally
unacceptable
these days, so you couldn't possibly mean such a thing! ;-)

In the UK, that is known as a lazy arm stand. Or at least in
broadcasting.
A boom is the sort of device used in TV and film studios - invariably
made
by Fisher these days and costs a small fortune new.

If you Google "boom microphone" you will find that as well as the
accepted usage film and TV usage the term is currently used to
describe a type of headset. Dave may disapprove of this. But it is
so.


The same goes for mic boom which seems to be used to
include the standard mic floor stand.

Maybe Dave's terminology is ex-BBC.
For example the STC 4021 mic known as the "apple and
biscuit" was know as the "ball and biscuit" outside the
Beeb.



I think you'll find it's a Wine Bar now....


Selling only good vintages I trust:-)






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