loudspeaker stereo imaging
 

Kurt Hamster wrote:

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:30:48 +0000, Ian Bell used
to say...

Dave Plowman wrote:


two sonically independant drivers (ie. no sound leaks across from one
ear to the other)

But the ear positions sounds by more than just relative levels - and
this is lost on a conventional recording when listened to on headphones.


How?

Ian

Apart from binaural, have you ever heard sounds coming from in front of
you (or to the rear for that matter) whilst listening with headphones?

Yes to them all.


Ian

loudspeaker stereo imaging
 

Ian Molton writes:

On the contrary, it is essential in arranging the basic room acoustics
to give the best possible listening environment within the constraints
imposed.

Except that unless you are planning a new building, or have a big wad of
cash to re-design your room, you're stuck with the walls and furnishings
you already have.

Sure, you could build an acoustically neutral room with big pointy
spikes all over the walls, and position everything so that there just
the one perfect listening spot... but thats well beyond most peoples
budgets...

I think the main problem is that most people don't have a dedicated
listening room, so is quite hard to balance the room's acoustics with
other uses or even try to place the loudspeakers in a better position.

This is the main reason because I don't upgrade my speakers (20 year
old sealed box with refurbished cones). I have a furniture with six
doors of the same size, behind the loudspeakers, and I can't get rid of
that (i have to put my dresses somewhere).

Mike

loudspeaker stereo imaging
 

Ian Molton writes:

On the contrary, it is essential in arranging the basic room acoustics
to give the best possible listening environment within the constraints
imposed.

Except that unless you are planning a new building, or have a big wad of
cash to re-design your room, you're stuck with the walls and furnishings
you already have.

Sure, you could build an acoustically neutral room with big pointy
spikes all over the walls, and position everything so that there just
the one perfect listening spot... but thats well beyond most peoples
budgets...

I think the main problem is that most people don't have a dedicated
listening room, so is quite hard to balance the room's acoustics with
other uses or even try to place the loudspeakers in a better position.

This is the main reason because I don't upgrade my speakers (20 year
old sealed box with refurbished cones). I have a furniture with six
doors of the same size, behind the loudspeakers, and I can't get rid of
that (i have to put my dresses somewhere).

Mike

loudspeaker stereo imaging
 

Kurt Hamster wrote:

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:44:36 +0000, Ian Bell used
to say...

Kurt Hamster wrote:

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:30:48 +0000, Ian Bell used
to say...

Dave Plowman wrote:


two sonically independant drivers (ie. no sound leaks across from one
ear to the other)

But the ear positions sounds by more than just relative levels - and
this is lost on a conventional recording when listened to on
headphones.


How?

Ian

Apart from binaural, have you ever heard sounds coming from in front of
you (or to the rear for that matter) whilst listening with headphones?

Yes to them all.

That maybe your problem then!

Not mine, his ;-)

Ian

loudspeaker stereo imaging
 

Kurt Hamster wrote:

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:44:36 +0000, Ian Bell used
to say...

Kurt Hamster wrote:

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:30:48 +0000, Ian Bell used
to say...

Dave Plowman wrote:


two sonically independant drivers (ie. no sound leaks across from one
ear to the other)

But the ear positions sounds by more than just relative levels - and
this is lost on a conventional recording when listened to on
headphones.


How?

Ian

Apart from binaural, have you ever heard sounds coming from in front of
you (or to the rear for that matter) whilst listening with headphones?

Yes to them all.

That maybe your problem then!

Not mine, his ;-)

Ian

loudspeaker stereo imaging
 

Mike wrote:

Ian Molton writes:

On the contrary, it is essential in arranging the basic room acoustics
to give the best possible listening environment within the constraints
imposed.

Except that unless you are planning a new building, or have a big wad of
cash to re-design your room, you're stuck with the walls and furnishings
you already have.

Sure, you could build an acoustically neutral room with big pointy
spikes all over the walls, and position everything so that there just
the one perfect listening spot... but thats well beyond most peoples
budgets...

I think the main problem is that most people don't have a dedicated
listening room, so is quite hard to balance the room's acoustics with
other uses or even try to place the loudspeakers in a better position.


Exactly.

Ian

loudspeaker stereo imaging
 

Mike wrote:

Ian Molton writes:

On the contrary, it is essential in arranging the basic room acoustics
to give the best possible listening environment within the constraints
imposed.

Except that unless you are planning a new building, or have a big wad of
cash to re-design your room, you're stuck with the walls and furnishings
you already have.

Sure, you could build an acoustically neutral room with big pointy
spikes all over the walls, and position everything so that there just
the one perfect listening spot... but thats well beyond most peoples
budgets...

I think the main problem is that most people don't have a dedicated
listening room, so is quite hard to balance the room's acoustics with
other uses or even try to place the loudspeakers in a better position.


Exactly.

Ian

loudspeaker stereo imaging
 

In article ,
Ian Bell wrote:
But the ear positions sounds by more than just relative levels - and
this is lost on a conventional recording when listened to on
headphones.


How?

Well, it measures the time a sound takes to reach each ear, for a start.

--
*Go the extra mile. It makes your boss look like an incompetent slacker *

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

loudspeaker stereo imaging
 

In article ,
Ian Bell wrote:
But the ear positions sounds by more than just relative levels - and
this is lost on a conventional recording when listened to on
headphones.


How?

Well, it measures the time a sound takes to reach each ear, for a start.

--
*Go the extra mile. It makes your boss look like an incompetent slacker *

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

loudspeaker stereo imaging
 

In article ,
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
I'm quite familiar with binaural, but it's pretty uncommon on commercial
recordings given its extremely limiting effects on modern production
techniques. It also doesn't IMHO give good compatibility with how most
listen - on speakers.

This has nothing to do with your comment regarding "You can't position
sounds accurately with headphones as you can with speakers", which is
fundamentally untrue.

No it's not. You can't guarantee front back information with headphones
even with the best binaural recordings. You may *think* you can, but it's
an illusion based on knowing were the sound comes from in the first place.
But wouldn't survive your favourite DBTs...

--
*If you can read this, thank a teecher

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn