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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:32:12 +0100, Dave Plowman
wrote:

In article ,
jim wrote:
I only scout the newsgroups to pick up anything of interest. I'm
Garrard 401, M75ED, Walmart CD/tape, homebrew 6SL/SN7/6L6GC and silly
wardrobe size disco speakers. Dave, Arny, Pinko will tell me this is all
crap. On a scope, I can actually measure how crap it all is !!! So,
I'm actually listening to pleasureable distortion. Possibly 10% of what
I am listening to is manufactured or distorted by the sound system I
use. Sounds nice, though ...............

I cannot argue with silicon people because unfortunately they are RIGHT
!!! There are no technical standpoints on which you can get up on a
chair and shout --valves are better !! Silicon is best .. accept it ...
but like you, I will carry on listening to what I've got until they
invent something better regards

I, for one, wouldn't dream of telling you your system is crap. Others may
go by brands, but I prefer to hear things before judging. And if you say
you like the sound of what you have that's all that matters.

But if you'd said - with the usual flowery language - just how much
better your valves and vinyl sounded to any digital, that would be
different and invites argument.

It tends to be the same here all the time - the flames start when people
make outrageous statements about long obsolete technology - especially
when they weren't around at the time it was current and remember its flaws.

Quite so.
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:35:43 +0100, Dave Plowman
wrote:

In article ,
jim wrote:
E type ? Yes, had two of them. Mk1 3.8 and a 4.2 FHC. The 3.8 was
better, but neither matched up to the fun value of an Austin Healey 3000
Mk3,

Hmm. The 3.8 had a sweeter engine, but was ruined by that dreadful old
Moss box. The Jag all synchro one was a *vast* improvement. As was the
build quality of the 4.2 - not that that's saying much.

Nicely put, and dead on the money. Beautiful to look at (and listen
to), but *always* a rust-bucket, and even the last of the V12s were
thrown together by headless monkeys.............

Never much like the Healey. Dreadful steering and poor handling on
anything other than a billiard table. Fun, maybe, but not a car to live
with every day.

One of the prettiest sports cars ever built, but should *definitely*
be left on the drive to be admired in the summer sunshine, while you
take the Elise for a spin.................
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In article ,
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
Never much like the Healey. Dreadful steering and poor handling on
anything other than a billiard table. Fun, maybe, but not a car to live
with every day.

One of the prettiest sports cars ever built, but should *definitely*
be left on the drive to be admired in the summer sunshine, while you
take the Elise for a spin.................

I know it's called a hairdresser's car, but the MX5 is the modern
interpretation of what the original British sports car tried to be -
inexpensive but fun to drive and usable everyday. The Elise is strictly a
weekend fun car.

--
*Caution: I drive like you do.

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 02:11:14 +0100, Ronnie McKinley
wrote:

Ione could
have a hell of a joyride-time in a Bobcat loader!! :)

Yeah, I'd just *lurrve* one of these little beasties!

At one time my spreadsheets (getting on for 20 years ago - 'Multiplan'
or
summat?) told me I had over £10K's worth of tyres on the road at any one
time and my drivers spent £27 a month on 'Dandidash' (cab cleaner in
aerosols).....

Ok, you win. At least they all smelt reasonably interesting :)

Gee whiz, vinylstars in unreasonably priced cars!


The cars cost nowt compared with cost of the Mercedes and Seddon-Atkinson
lorries........

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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:35:43 +0100, Dave Plowman
wrote:

In article ,
jim wrote:
E type ? Yes, had two of them. Mk1 3.8 and a 4.2 FHC. The 3.8 was
better, but neither matched up to the fun value of an Austin Healey
3000
Mk3,

Hmm. The 3.8 had a sweeter engine, but was ruined by that dreadful old
Moss box. The Jag all synchro one was a *vast* improvement. As was the
build quality of the 4.2 - not that that's saying much.

Nicely put, and dead on the money. Beautiful to look at (and listen
to), but *always* a rust-bucket, and even the last of the V12s were
thrown together by headless monkeys.............

Never much like the Healey. Dreadful steering and poor handling on
anything other than a billiard table. Fun, maybe, but not a car to live
with every day.

One of the prettiest sports cars ever built,



Not a patch on the MGA with 2lt (?) TOHC engine, preferably in bright
red......

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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:32:12 +0100, Dave Plowman
wrote:

In article ,
jim wrote:
I only scout the newsgroups to pick up anything of interest. I'm
Garrard 401, M75ED, Walmart CD/tape, homebrew 6SL/SN7/6L6GC and silly
wardrobe size disco speakers. Dave, Arny, Pinko will tell me this is
all
crap. On a scope, I can actually measure how crap it all is !!! So,
I'm actually listening to pleasureable distortion. Possibly 10% of
what
I am listening to is manufactured or distorted by the sound system I
use. Sounds nice, though ...............

I cannot argue with silicon people because unfortunately they are RIGHT
!!! There are no technical standpoints on which you can get up on a
chair and shout --valves are better !! Silicon is best .. accept it
....
but like you, I will carry on listening to what I've got until they
invent something better regards

I, for one, wouldn't dream of telling you your system is crap. Others may
go by brands, but I prefer to hear things before judging. And if you say
you like the sound of what you have that's all that matters.

But if you'd said - with the usual flowery language - just how much
better your valves and vinyl sounded to any digital, that would be
different and invites argument.

It tends to be the same here all the time - the flames start when people
make outrageous statements about long obsolete technology - especially
when they weren't around at the time it was current and remember its
flaws.

Quite so.


Suck on this then - AFAIAC, my valves and vinyl **** on any digital music I
have ever heard including a £3K CDP. - Better resolution, better tone, more
'life', better soundstaging, better in every other respect and all well
within the range of my hearing.........

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On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:52:12 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

You tell me wot's going on then - the bashers drive off their enemies, cry
out 'good riddance' and then follow them trying to make nice nice
remarks......?

There are lots of good treatments for paranoia these days............
--

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On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 15:06:09 +0100, Ronnie McKinley
wrote:

In uk.rec.audio (Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:

we both have personalised plates these days (V6 ASP ....

What does the 'A' stand for? :)

Angus.
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:30:45 +0100, Kurt Hamster
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 08:19:00 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton used
to say...

On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 20:55:29 +0100, Kurt Hamster
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 19:09:40 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton used
to say...

On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 18:52:27 +0100, Kurt Hamster
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 17:04:06 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton used
to say...

If you'd been skilled as well as careful, you'd have been designing
and building solid-state amplifiers! :-)

Instead of working in, say, a bank?

Probably, but since I've never worked in a bank, I wouldn't know.....

Okay, a bank's datacentre then!

Wrong again, it's called an OMC..........

But then I guess you're used to being wrong!

But I'm not wrong am I Pinky?

It's an Output Management Centre, i.e. we do all the printed output
for customers, plus CDs, tapes and electronic data feeds. The data
centres are somewhat different, and are scattered for security and
redundancy. However, this has sod all to do with audio.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

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On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:57:57 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:32:12 +0100, Dave Plowman
wrote:

In article ,
jim wrote:
I only scout the newsgroups to pick up anything of interest. I'm
Garrard 401, M75ED, Walmart CD/tape, homebrew 6SL/SN7/6L6GC and silly
wardrobe size disco speakers. Dave, Arny, Pinko will tell me this is
all
crap. On a scope, I can actually measure how crap it all is !!! So,
I'm actually listening to pleasureable distortion. Possibly 10% of
what
I am listening to is manufactured or distorted by the sound system I
use. Sounds nice, though ...............

I cannot argue with silicon people because unfortunately they are RIGHT
!!! There are no technical standpoints on which you can get up on a
chair and shout --valves are better !! Silicon is best .. accept it
...
but like you, I will carry on listening to what I've got until they
invent something better regards

I, for one, wouldn't dream of telling you your system is crap. Others may
go by brands, but I prefer to hear things before judging. And if you say
you like the sound of what you have that's all that matters.

But if you'd said - with the usual flowery language - just how much
better your valves and vinyl sounded to any digital, that would be
different and invites argument.

It tends to be the same here all the time - the flames start when people
make outrageous statements about long obsolete technology - especially
when they weren't around at the time it was current and remember its
flaws.

Quite so.

Suck on this then - AFAIAC, my valves and vinyl **** on any digital music I
have ever heard including a £3K CDP. - Better resolution, better tone, more
'life', better soundstaging, better in every other respect and all well
within the range of my hearing.........

You have the right to be wrong................... :-)

Personal preferences are just fine, just don't try to justify them
with technobbable bull****. As Dave said. Specifically, don't post
crap such as 'better resolution' for a medium which in *fact* has at
least ten times *worse* resolution.

If you're sitting comfortably, I might even explain exactly *why* you
might have been fooled into thinking that this is the case. Again, for
about the tenth time...............
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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering