On Aug 30, 3:00 pm, Bret Ludwig wrote:

I agree 8 Tracks are dog****. But, while the Revox was one of the
better consumer decks, why not ante up for a real one-an AG440 Ampex
maybe? Or even a 351.

Bret, the Revox A700 is perhaps the best 1/4" tape deck ever made.
Even more so than any Ampex ever, or even the (in)famous Crowns. I
kept one briefly, but frankly, the A77 met my needs, is much more
portable, and with the built in amps and speakers is far more
adaptable to most uses. So I made a nice little profit on the 700, and
kept the A77.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

Arny,

CDs contain only about half of that recorded information.

LOL, I wonder how he came up with "half." Arny, you should email him and ask
for the exact formula he used to determine that. :-)

--Ethan

GregS wrote:
In article , John Byrns wrote:
In article om,
Peter Wieck wrote:

On Aug 30, 9:46 am, "Arny Krueger" wrote:

Much obvious, but essentially meaningless stuff.
And those who like vinyl will continue to like it. And those who do
not will continue in their ways as well.

Nothing will change and nothing will be learned other than a
monumental waste of bandwidth will transpire if this thread gets legs.
Which it should not IMHO. Even the likes of the "commander" and Bret
should recognize that much and stay under their various rocks.
I like them both, the LP has the edge in the information carrying
capacity of the jacket, while the CD has the edge in convenience.

I thought there would be a lot of collectors of old jackets, but I have not
seen anything to my knowledge, except that I still have a stack of records,
and of course they are in the jackets.

greg

I recently sold several hundred LPs (from a 30 quid ebay job lot) to a
bloke who uses the covers to decorate rooms in his stately home in
Yorkshire. He's had frames built in some rooms so he can change the
covers to suit his mood. And why not :-)

Rob

On 8/30/07 2:00 PM, in article
, "Bret Ludwig"
wrote:

On Aug 30, 12:59 pm, Peter Wieck wrote:
On Aug 30, 1:38 pm, John Byrns wrote:

I like them both, the LP has the edge in the information carrying
capacity of the jacket, while the CD has the edge in convenience.

Exactly. It is permitted to "like them both". And even analog tape,
both via the ubiquitous A77 and even ~~SHUDDER~~ cassette or 8-Track.
I do own the mandatory A77, of course. A road-deck as it happens. It
even gets used on occasion. Also a few cassette decks, but never and
no 8-Tracks.
I agree 8 Tracks are dog****. But, while the Revox was one of the
better consumer decks, why not ante up for a real one-an AG440 Ampex
maybe? Or even a 351.

The Ampex units are total overkill for domestic use. I'd take a Revox A700
over an Ampex any day. For speed stability, that direct drive Pabst capstan
motor combined with the electronic servo tensioning, was just unbeatable.
And the electronics were modern and quiet. Plus, unlike the Ampex, the whole
package doesn't take up an entire room.

The Ampex units are total overkill for domestic use. I'd take a Revox A700
over an Ampex any day. For speed stability, that direct drive Pabst capstan
motor combined with the electronic servo tensioning, was just unbeatable.
And the electronics were modern and quiet. Plus, unlike the Ampex, the whole
package doesn't take up an entire room.

What's better about a Revox than an AG440 or a 351? Besides, aren't
the Studer versions of the Revox generally easier to use and more
desireable?

The new head and other part suppliers are geared up to supply Ampex
parts, morso than anything else.

Plus, 351 transports can be had for free sometimes, and you can build
your own electronics or use the aftermarket Inovonics units.

Peter Wieck wrote:

On Aug 30, 1:38 pm, John Byrns wrote:

I like them both, the LP has the edge in the information carrying
capacity of the jacket, while the CD has the edge in convenience.

Exactly. It is permitted to "like them both".

Indeed. Many of the arguments would stop if ignorant vinyl-lovers
would stop spewing their ignorance. Seems as though every half-wit
out there thinks they have sufficient knowledge of digital audio to
make bold statements about it's supposed limitations.

In article . com,
Bret Ludwig wrote:
Exactly. It is permitted to "like them both". And even analog tape,
both via the ubiquitous A77 and even ~~SHUDDER~~ cassette or 8-Track.
I do own the mandatory A77, of course. A road-deck as it happens. It
even gets used on occasion. Also a few cassette decks, but never and
no 8-Tracks.

I agree 8 Tracks are dog****.

They sounded better than the average cassette of the day due to running at
twice the speed. I've got a rather rare Woolensack recorder with Dolby B
which uses ferrichrome tape. Just as good as a decent 1/4" at 7.5 ips. Of
course they all suffer from the limited track running time.

--
*The hardness of the butter is proportional to the softness of the bread *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
Ethan Winer ethanw at ethanwiner dot com wrote:
CDs contain only about half of that recorded information.

LOL, I wonder how he came up with "half." Arny, you should email him and
ask for the exact formula he used to determine that. :-)

The recording is made up of noughts and ones. Noughts naturally are
nothing so only the ones count. Therefore 50% of the total.

--
*I must always remember that I'm unique, just like everyone else. *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article . com,
Bret Ludwig wrote:
Besides, aren't the Studer versions of the Revox generally easier to
use and more desireable?

Studer is the name for the pro machines - Revox the domestic ones. Most
are totally different.

--
*Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
dizzy wrote:

Peter Wieck wrote:

On Aug 30, 1:38 pm, John Byrns wrote:

I like them both, the LP has the edge in the information carrying
capacity of the jacket, while the CD has the edge in convenience.

Exactly. It is permitted to "like them both".

Indeed. Many of the arguments would stop if ignorant vinyl-lovers
would stop spewing their ignorance. Seems as though every half-wit
out there thinks they have sufficient knowledge of digital audio to
make bold statements about it's supposed limitations.

It would also be helpful if those here who accuse vinyl fans of saying
something would actually read the posts of those individuals.