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Iain Churches[_2_] September 11th 07 05:16 PM

Hmmm!
 
I talked on the phone with a chap today who
told me he had a very good idea for a high-end
loudspeaker cable.

It was based upon some thick twin co-axial with
two separate shields. He had then connected
the screen of the left wire to the inner of the right
wire, and the inner of the left wire to the screen
of the right wire. He made a cable like this for
both channels, and inserted it onto a 12mm
armoured hose-pipe, with Raychem 15mm shrink
sleeving at each end and "gold" terminals bought
from a car audio shop. He added, "I have found
there are great sonic advantages in this method"

There followed a long silence, and I, not knowing
quite what to say, replied: "Hmm! Interesting!
You might have something there. You
should make a quantity. It might sell well".

He replied: "I have. It does. At Euro 25 a metre!"

Iain





Arny Krueger September 11th 07 05:21 PM

Hmmm!
 

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
i.fi...

I talked on the phone with a chap today who
told me he had a very good idea for a high-end
loudspeaker cable.


Isn't "HighEnd Speaker Cable" synonymous with "Scam"?

No doubt right down your alley, Iain.

It was based upon some thick twin co-axial with
two separate shields. He had then connected
the screen of the left wire to the inner of the right
wire, and the inner of the left wire to the screen
of the right wire.


Since each cable has two screens, and which screen to use is not stated, the
instructions are gibberish. So is the engineering.

He made a cable like this for
both channels, and inserted it onto a 12mm
armoured hose-pipe, with Raychem 15mm shrink
sleeving at each end and "gold" terminals bought
from a car audio shop. He added, "I have found
there are great sonic advantages in this method"


No doubt based on a sighted evalution.

There followed a long silence, and I, not knowing
quite what to say, replied: "Hmm! Interesting!
You might have something there. You
should make a quantity. It might sell well".


He replied: "I have. It does. At Euro 25 a metre!"


Hey, people are also buying small quantities of tubed equipment. Go figure!



Mike Gilmour September 11th 07 05:27 PM

Hmmm!
 

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
i.fi...
I talked on the phone with a chap today who
told me he had a very good idea for a high-end
loudspeaker cable.

It was based upon some thick twin co-axial with
two separate shields. He had then connected
the screen of the left wire to the inner of the right
wire, and the inner of the left wire to the screen
of the right wire. He made a cable like this for
both channels, and inserted it onto a 12mm
armoured hose-pipe, with Raychem 15mm shrink
sleeving at each end and "gold" terminals bought
from a car audio shop. He added, "I have found
there are great sonic advantages in this method"

There followed a long silence, and I, not knowing
quite what to say, replied: "Hmm! Interesting!
You might have something there. You
should make a quantity. It might sell well".

He replied: "I have. It does. At Euro 25 a metre!"

Iain



Hi Iain,

Interesting. Max Townsend used to market speaker cable using several
paralleled co-axial cables, I believe it was a bit unwieldy when trying to
connect, probably not much harder than my Cogan Hall copper pipe 'cables'
;~)

Mike




Iain Churches[_2_] September 11th 07 05:57 PM

Hmmm!
 

"Mike Gilmour" wrote in message
...

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
i.fi...
I talked on the phone with a chap today who
told me he had a very good idea for a high-end
loudspeaker cable.

It was based upon some thick twin co-axial with
two separate shields. He had then connected
the screen of the left wire to the inner of the right
wire, and the inner of the left wire to the screen
of the right wire. He made a cable like this for
both channels, and inserted it onto a 12mm
armoured hose-pipe, with Raychem 15mm shrink
sleeving at each end and "gold" terminals bought
from a car audio shop. He added, "I have found
there are great sonic advantages in this method"

There followed a long silence, and I, not knowing
quite what to say, replied: "Hmm! Interesting!
You might have something there. You
should make a quantity. It might sell well".

He replied: "I have. It does. At Euro 25 a metre!"

Iain



Hi Iain,

Interesting. Max Townsend used to market speaker cable using several
paralleled co-axial cables, I believe it was a bit unwieldy when trying to
connect, probably not much harder than my Cogan Hall copper pipe 'cables'
;~)

Hello Mike. Nice to har from you:-)
I am sure this is not an original idea. I take no sides in the cable debate
whatsoever. Let people buy what makes them happy.

Iain



Iain Churches[_2_] September 11th 07 06:04 PM

Hmmm!
 

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
i.fi...

I talked on the phone with a chap today who
told me he had a very good idea for a high-end
loudspeaker cable.


Isn't "HighEnd Speaker Cable" synonymous with "Scam"?

No doubt right down your alley, Iain.


I think, Arny, the expression is right "up" your alley:-)

He asked if anyone at the workshop in which I
have a share would be willing to make this cable for
him. One chap has agreed. The initial order is for
600 metres in 3 metre lengths.

It was based upon some thick twin co-axial with
two separate shields. He had then connected
the screen of the left wire to the inner of the right
wire, and the inner of the left wire to the screen
of the right wire.


Since each cable has two screens, and which screen to use is not stated,


No. Each inner has one screen. The term he used
was "cross connected" I think that is clear enough.

the instructions are gibberish.

The instructions are clear

So is the engineering.

Did I say otherwise?

He replied: "I have. It does. At Euro 25 a metre!"


Hey, people are also buying small quantities of tubed equipment. Go
figure!


The initial order is for 600metres. Go count:-)

Iain




Eiron September 11th 07 06:23 PM

Hmmm!
 
Iain Churches wrote:
I talked on the phone with a chap today who
told me he had a very good idea for a high-end
loudspeaker cable.

It was based upon some thick twin co-axial with
two separate shields. He had then connected
the screen of the left wire to the inner of the right
wire, and the inner of the left wire to the screen
of the right wire. He made a cable like this for
both channels, and inserted it onto a 12mm
armoured hose-pipe, with Raychem 15mm shrink
sleeving at each end and "gold" terminals bought
from a car audio shop. He added, "I have found
there are great sonic advantages in this method"


It's a very old idea and still as pointless as ever
unless the point is to fleece audiophools.

--
Eiron.

Iain Churches[_2_] September 11th 07 06:27 PM

Hmmm!
 

"Eiron" wrote in message
...

It's a very old idea and still as pointless as ever
unless the point is to fleece audiophools.


Yes. I had a feeling he had not invented something
new. But he certainly does seem to have found
a market niche.

Iain



Arny Krueger September 11th 07 07:24 PM

Hmmm!
 

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
ti.fi...

"Eiron" wrote in message
...

It's a very old idea and still as pointless as ever
unless the point is to fleece audiophools.


Yes. I had a feeling he had not invented something
new. But he certainly does seem to have found
a market niche.


Some of us have these ethics thingies that keep us from perpetrating scams
like that.



Iain Churches[_2_] September 11th 07 08:00 PM

Hmmm!
 

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
. ..

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
ti.fi...

"Eiron" wrote in message
...

It's a very old idea and still as pointless as ever
unless the point is to fleece audiophools.


Yes. I had a feeling he had not invented something
new. But he certainly does seem to have found
a market niche.


Some of us have these ethics thingies that keep us from perpetrating scams
like that.


Come on Arny. Don't come over all sanctimonious on us.
If someone offered you USD100 an hr for making up cables,
you would not be able to get you fat little pensioners' legs under
the bench fast enough! And you know it:-)

Iain



Iain Churches[_2_] September 11th 07 08:00 PM

Hmmm!
 

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
. ..

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
ti.fi...

"Eiron" wrote in message
...

It's a very old idea and still as pointless as ever
unless the point is to fleece audiophools.


Yes. I had a feeling he had not invented something
new. But he certainly does seem to have found
a market niche.


Some of us have these ethics thingies that keep us from perpetrating scams
like that.


Come on Arny. Don't come over all sanctimonious on us.
If someone offered you USD100 an hr for making up cables,
you would not be able to get you fat little pensioners' legs under
the bench fast enough! And you know it:-)

Iain





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