Laurence Payne wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:56:57 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

The piece comes over as being put
together, rather than existing in a natural acoustic setting.
Oh it's a composite alright - recorded in three different
countries, and played by people who have never met each
other.

A circumstance that makes it very hard for the players to listen to
each other and co-operate stylistically and rhythmically. It's easy
to phrase together when you can see each other (a little rehearsal
doesn't hurt either :-)



What I would like to see (hear) is dozens of people in different
locations playing in a great big, brought together Bonzo Dog 'Intro
Outro' type of piece - then we could YouTube it!!

:-)

Someone now tells me it's already been done..??

??

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Laurence Payne" wrote in message

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:27:20 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

There's some distortion in the sax sound at 2.44. Maybe
in the recording chain, maybe spit sound from the sax,
maybe a MP3 artifact. Whatever it is, the eq'd version
emphasises it.
If its spit, its not distortion. Since you don't know,
your comment is meaningless.

Not worth arguing. "Unwanted sound" then.

Accurate use of words seems to be a lost art around here.

Have a listen.

I have already listened to my own track, and compared it to the fiction that
Kitty posted here. He didn't implement my recommendation exactly. Besides,
my recommendation was a just first cut, not a recipie for a finished,
mastered recording.




Wake up THICKO..!!

I only recorded the clarinet - I mixed NOTHING, I EQ'd NOTHING.

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message

Anyway, here's the original again:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaM.mp3


And here's Arny's suggestion (EQ is not *my* work):

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaMEQ.mp3

So, it's a simple case of 'better or worse?'...??

What does the team think?

I finally did the obvious and double-checked your work Keith.




Keith? Kitty?

Make your mind up, nutter...

:-)



I also listened to it. Didn't sound right.

The facts became clear when I compared a detailed FFT analysis of the two
files.

Kitty,

since you apparently don't have the same sophisticated DAW tools as I
do, you were unable to duplicate my work well enough to produce a file that
was representative of my quick recommendation. I did my work with DAW
software FFT-based filters while it appears that you did your work with
something less accurate, perhaps an octave equalizer. You were unable to
follow my recipe exactly and ended up with more boost at 1 and 10 KHz.


Foaming at the mouth again....

Hasn't caught on to the fact that I did NONE of the above!

;-)


Kitty, due to your obvious need to libel me whenever you can,


Libel? Libel is when something is incorrect or untrue - are you claiming
you are not a raving, paranoid nutter then?

:-)



you and Iain
took a quick recommendation and falsely and deceptively turned it into a
test of my technical skills. The moral of the story is that when you are
dealing with people that have an emotional need to salve their hurt egos at
any cost to logic, reason, and truth; no good deed goes unpunished.



Anybody got a clue what this paranoid nutter is raving about

"Keith G" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Laurence Payne" wrote in
message
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:27:20 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

There's some distortion in the sax sound at 2.44. Maybe in the
recording chain, maybe spit sound from
the sax, maybe a MP3 artifact. Whatever it is, the
eq'd version emphasises it.
If its spit, its not distortion. Since you don't know,
your comment is meaningless.

Not worth arguing. "Unwanted sound" then.

Accurate use of words seems to be a lost art around here.

Have a listen.

I have already listened to my own track, and compared it
to the fiction that Kitty posted here. He didn't
implement my recommendation exactly. Besides, my
recommendation was a just first cut, not a recipie for a
finished, mastered recording.


Wake up THICKO..!!

I only recorded the clarinet - I mixed NOTHING, I EQ'd NOTHING.

What is this?

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaMEQ.mp3


What does the EQ in the file name mean?

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:12:49 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

To give you a bit of impetus:
http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Music/TTT.mp3



Just a simple backing line to start with would be handy!

Good track isn't it?

If that doesn't get Laurence's trombone player's adrenalin
pumping then nothing will.

Absolutely. I miss playing the thing. I could probably get back to a
standard I'd be happy to record and share in a month or two! But I
have neither the time or a reason to do so (with a real reason, of
course I'd FIND the time:-)

There's some samples of my keyboard playing on my web site, if anyone
wants to nit-pick. Though much of it was multi-tracked into a
sequencer, I can assure you it was all PLAYED, not step-entered or
otherwise constructed.

Iain Churches wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message
...
Iain Churches wrote:
"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:40:36 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

I'm trombone, not clarinet. And, sadly, more ex-trombone. It's one
of those things that aren't worth doing unless you do them every day,
and work moved in other directions many years ago.
Don't be so modest Laurence. We invited you, not Don Lusher!
(he's indisposed anyway:-)
It's not modesty! I really haven't taken it out the case for years.
Do it. Today:-)
To give you a bit of impetus:
http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Music/TTT.mp3


Just a simple backing line to start with would be handy!

Good track isn't it?



Yes - lovely!!

:-)



If that doesn't get Laurence's trombone player's adrenalin
pumping then nothing will.


He's fishing around in the loft for it as I type!!

;-)

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:47:04 +0000, Keith G
wrote:


What I would like to see (hear) is dozens of people in different
locations playing in a great big, brought together Bonzo Dog 'Intro
Outro' type of piece - then we could YouTube it!!

:-)

Someone now tells me it's already been done..??

There's a project by someone who went round the world getting
individuals to contribute in this way to the same song. I've seen the
video, presumably on YouTube. Can't remember the details, but someone
will.

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Laurence Payne" wrote in
message
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:27:20 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

There's some distortion in the sax sound at 2.44. Maybe in the
recording chain, maybe spit sound from
the sax, maybe a MP3 artifact. Whatever it is, the
eq'd version emphasises it.
If its spit, its not distortion. Since you don't know,
your comment is meaningless.
Not worth arguing. "Unwanted sound" then.
Accurate use of words seems to be a lost art around here.

Have a listen.
I have already listened to my own track, and compared it
to the fiction that Kitty posted here. He didn't
implement my recommendation exactly. Besides, my
recommendation was a just first cut, not a recipie for a
finished, mastered recording.

Wake up THICKO..!!

I only recorded the clarinet - I mixed NOTHING, I EQ'd NOTHING.

What is this?

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaMEQ.mp3


It's your suggestion EQ'd by *Iain* and sent to me for purposes of
posting a 'before and after'/'better or worse' comparison'!

You *know* I neither have the software or skill (or the inclination to
acquire either one) do you not?

I don't like *processed* anything - I'm actually with you on mic pairs,
but your paranoia would let you see that, would it?

Your trouble, Arny, stems from having too many cars with automatic
gearboxes - in the 'manual' UK, most people learn to engage the brain
before letting the mouth out...







What does the EQ in the file name mean?

Laurence Payne wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:47:04 +0000, Keith G
wrote:

What I would like to see (hear) is dozens of people in different
locations playing in a great big, brought together Bonzo Dog 'Intro
Outro' type of piece - then we could YouTube it!!

:-)

Someone now tells me it's already been done..??

There's a project by someone who went round the world getting
individuals to contribute in this way to the same song. I've seen the
video, presumably on YouTube. Can't remember the details, but someone
will.



Oh 'Teach the world to sing' or summat similar - yes, I've seen it and
it's *excellent* - I'm talking about a big band piece like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DUEAG5eO6c


I could get Shiny Nigel to do the vocals!

:-)


And I'm sure I could do 'spoons' or summat!

:-)

Roy Rogers on Trigger....

Laurence Payne wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:12:49 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

To give you a bit of impetus:
http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Music/TTT.mp3


Just a simple backing line to start with would be handy!
Good track isn't it?

If that doesn't get Laurence's trombone player's adrenalin
pumping then nothing will.

Absolutely. I miss playing the thing. I could probably get back to a
standard I'd be happy to record and share in a month or two! But I
have neither the time or a reason to do so (with a real reason, of
course I'd FIND the time:-)

There's some samples of my keyboard playing on my web site, if anyone
wants to nit-pick. Though much of it was multi-tracked into a
sequencer, I can assure you it was all PLAYED, not step-entered or
otherwise constructed.




OK, let's have a link then!!