http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audio-Grou...item3f7d4189c8

https://tinyurl.com/y8rwh533

I've no idea what a piece of wire attached to a croc clip at one end and
a piece of rosewood (possibly containing silicon wafers?) connected to
the chassis of your Hi-Fi item is supposed to do. Presumably nothing as
they thoughtfully add the following caveat..

"Pls note : We can't 100% gurantee the Ground box have the expected
effect, because it is Subjective feelings，Different person, different
device, different condition and enviroment can let the respond
different, someone respond the ground box with great effect, another
person respond the box with little effect"

Makes 'running in' speaker cables seem positively sane!

"Richard Jones" wrote in message
news
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audio-Grou...item3f7d4189c8

https://tinyurl.com/y8rwh533

I've no idea what a piece of wire attached to a croc clip at one end
and a piece of rosewood (possibly containing silicon wafers?)
connected to the chassis of your Hi-Fi item is supposed to do.
Presumably nothing as they thoughtfully add the following caveat..

"Pls note : We can't 100% gurantee the Ground box have the expected
effect, because it is Subjective feelings,Different person,
different device, different condition and enviroment can let the
respond different, someone respond the ground box with great effect,
another person respond the box with little effect"

Makes 'running in' speaker cables seem positively sane!


Ah, so rip-off Russ has been giving lessons all over the world?


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com

Worrying thing is about Russ, a bit like David Icke, he has come to believe
his own claptrap.
OK here is a good one for you. Remove earth connection from my Rogers Cadet
and replace it by a 1 meg restore. Then use the earth from a vintage graphic
equaliser SEA10 by JVC to earth the system. Result halving of the 50 hz
buzz.
I only want 200 quid for this half watt 1 meg resistor.
grin.
Brian

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"Woody" wrote in message
news

"Richard Jones" wrote in message
news
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audio-Grou...item3f7d4189c8

https://tinyurl.com/y8rwh533

I've no idea what a piece of wire attached to a croc clip at one end and
a piece of rosewood (possibly containing silicon wafers?) connected to
the chassis of your Hi-Fi item is supposed to do. Presumably nothing as
they thoughtfully add the following caveat..

"Pls note : We can't 100% gurantee the Ground box have the expected
effect, because it is Subjective feelings,Different person, different
device, different condition and enviroment can let the respond different,
someone respond the ground box with great effect, another person respond
the box with little effect"

Makes 'running in' speaker cables seem positively sane!


Ah, so rip-off Russ has been giving lessons all over the world?


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com

Once upon a time on usenet Richard Jones wrote:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audio-Grou...item3f7d4189c8

https://tinyurl.com/y8rwh533

I've no idea what a piece of wire attached to a croc clip at one end
and a piece of rosewood (possibly containing silicon wafers?)
connected to the chassis of your Hi-Fi item is supposed to do. Presumably
nothing as they thoughtfully add the following caveat..

"Pls note : We can't 100% gurantee the Ground box have the expected
effect, because it is Subjective feelings,Different person, different
device, different condition and enviroment can let the respond
different, someone respond the ground box with great effect, another
person respond the box with little effect"

Makes 'running in' speaker cables seem positively sane!

Those don't work anyway! You need the silver wire version;
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audio-Grou...r/282511578977
This version is much better. It's a top seller having sold more than 3 times
as many as the copper wire version.

But if the croc clip isn't silver as well then....
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

Me no speaka de Englich.
Hmm,
I'm surprised nobody has not suggested rewiring the house with special
oxygen free mains cable by now.
Brian

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"~misfit~" wrote in message
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Once upon a time on usenet Richard Jones wrote:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audio-Grou...item3f7d4189c8

https://tinyurl.com/y8rwh533

I've no idea what a piece of wire attached to a croc clip at one end
and a piece of rosewood (possibly containing silicon wafers?)
connected to the chassis of your Hi-Fi item is supposed to do. Presumably
nothing as they thoughtfully add the following caveat..

"Pls note : We can't 100% gurantee the Ground box have the expected
effect, because it is Subjective feelings,Different person, different
device, different condition and enviroment can let the respond
different, someone respond the ground box with great effect, another
person respond the box with little effect"

Makes 'running in' speaker cables seem positively sane!

Those don't work anyway! You need the silver wire version;
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audio-Grou...r/282511578977
This version is much better. It's a top seller having sold more than 3
times as many as the copper wire version.

But if the croc clip isn't silver as well then....
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a
cozy little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

I'm surprised nobody has not suggested rewiring the house with special
oxygen free mains cable by now.

Unfortunately I have come across people who do just that.

Julf

Have you ever looked at mains supply cables? After all what they should be
doing in my view is fitting all new builds with filters that render internet
over the mains devices impossible to use. thy cause no end of issues with
equipment being interfered with etc.
Brian

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I'm surprised nobody has not suggested rewiring the house with special
oxygen free mains cable by now.

Unfortunately I have come across people who do just that.

Julf

perjantai 7. heinäkuuta 2017 14.56.06 UTC+3 Richard Jones kirjoitti:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audio-Grou...item3f7d4189c8

https://tinyurl.com/y8rwh533

I've no idea what a piece of wire attached to a croc clip at one end and
a piece of rosewood (possibly containing silicon wafers?) connected to
the chassis of your Hi-Fi item is supposed to do. Presumably nothing as
they thoughtfully add the following caveat..

"Pls note : We can't 100% gurantee the Ground box have the expected
effect, because it is Subjective feelings，Different person, different
device, different condition and enviroment can let the respond
different, someone respond the ground box with great effect, another
person respond the box with little effect"

Makes 'running in' speaker cables seem positively sane!

In response to Brian's comments:

Audiophiles have always had a reputation for gullibility. As long as there is a demand for audio snake oil, there will be purveyors in abundance.

I mentioned earlier, in another thread, about a colleague of mine who ran a pro audio repair shop. When things were quiet, he used to make shielded mains cables (a braided shield connected at the Schuko connector only) with a clear plastic sleeeve over. Most impressive. Once the jigs were set up the cables were quick and very cheap to produce. He sold them for 50e to a dealer in Sweden whose customers mainly in the UK, paid UKP85, for a 2 metre cable. He was turning them out in impressive quantities. It came to an end when the dealer found a Chinese supplier who could supply a 1m50 cable for much less money. The retailer lowered his price to 75e and sales increased!!

I can't comment about Russ Andrews, but if you want to know about audio "smoke and mirrors" Brian, Magic Alex will interest you. He was the man who promised to build the Beatles a 72-track analogue multitrack recorder at a time when the 4 track Studer J37 was state of the art. He also said that he would render studio acoustic treatment, tiles, screens etc, as unnecessary by using an acoustic "force-field" generated by six massive computers which be bought as redundant technology from British Aerospace. Similarly, he claimed that a control to studio "talkback" system would no longer be required as he could electronically tune players/producers/engineers to the "same artistic wavelength". The Beatles put him in charge of their technical R+D at Apple Electronics to design and build there new studio in Saville Row. He brought them to to verge of bankcruptcy.

I met Magic Alex at a party at the Saville Rowe premises. He certainly had some "interesting" ideas.

Iain

..

In response to Brian's comments:

Audiophiles have always had a reputation for gullibility. As long as there is a
demand for audio snake oil, there will be purveyors in abundance.

I mentioned earlier, in another thread, about a colleague of mine who ran a pro
audio repair shop. When things were quiet, he used to make shielded mains cables
(a braided shield connected at the Schuko connector only) with a clear plastic
sleeeve over. Most impressive. Once the jigs were set up the cables were quick
and very cheap to produce. He sold them for 50e to a dealer in Sweden whose
customers mainly in the UK, paid UKP85, for a 2 metre cable. He was turning
them out in impressive quantities. It came to an end when the dealer found a
Chinese supplier who could supply a 1m50 cable for much less money. The retailer
lowered his price to 75e and sales increased!!

I can't comment about Russ Andrews, but if you want to know about audio "smoke
and mirrors" Brian, Magic Alex will interest you. He was the man who promised to
build the Beatles a 72-track analogue multitrack recorder at a time when the 4
track Studer J37 was state of the art. He also said that he would render studio
acoustic treatment, tiles, screens etc, as unnecessary by using an acoustic
"force-field" generated by six massive computers which be bought as redundant
technology from British Aerospace. Similarly, he claimed that a control to
studio "talkback" system would no longer be required as he could electronically
tune players/producers/engineers to the "same artistic wavelength". The Beatles
put him in charge of their technical R+D at Apple Electronics to design and
build there new studio in Saville Row. He brought them to to verge of
bankcruptcy.



I met Magic Alex at a party at the Saville Rowe premises. He certainly had some
"interesting" ideas.

Iain



Any idea what he was smoking at all?...


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Tony Sayer

maanantai 17. heinäkuuta 2017 14.24.19 UTC+3 tony sayer kirjoitti:
.

In response to Brian's comments:

Audiophiles have always had a reputation for gullibility. As long as there is a
demand for audio snake oil, there will be purveyors in abundance.

I mentioned earlier, in another thread, about a colleague of mine who ran a pro
audio repair shop. When things were quiet, he used to make shielded mains cables
(a braided shield connected at the Schuko connector only) with a clear plastic
sleeeve over. Most impressive. Once the jigs were set up the cables were quick
and very cheap to produce. He sold them for 50e to a dealer in Sweden whose
customers mainly in the UK, paid UKP85, for a 2 metre cable. He was turning
them out in impressive quantities. It came to an end when the dealer found a
Chinese supplier who could supply a 1m50 cable for much less money. The retailer
lowered his price to 75e and sales increased!!

I can't comment about Russ Andrews, but if you want to know about audio "smoke
and mirrors" Brian, Magic Alex will interest you. He was the man who promised to
build the Beatles a 72-track analogue multitrack recorder at a time when the 4
track Studer J37 was state of the art. He also said that he would render studio
acoustic treatment, tiles, screens etc, as unnecessary by using an acoustic
"force-field" generated by six massive computers which be bought as redundant
technology from British Aerospace. Similarly, he claimed that a control to
studio "talkback" system would no longer be required as he could electronically
tune players/producers/engineers to the "same artistic wavelength". The Beatles
put him in charge of their technical R+D at Apple Electronics to design and
build there new studio in Saville Row. He brought them to to verge of
bankcruptcy.



I met Magic Alex at a party at the Saville Rowe premises. He certainly had some
"interesting" ideas.

Iain



Any idea what he was smoking at all?...

:-))

Much to his chagrin he (Magic Alex) was unable to demonstrate his forcefield acoustic as the LEB were (he said) unable to supply the current required without blacking out Oxford St, Regent St, and the southern end of Edgeware Rd. He had a contingency plan for the Underground and also BBC Maida Vale which may or may not have been affected.

Interesting chap:-))

Iain