On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:23:24 -0000, "Wally"
wrote:

Keith G wrote:

Been there, done that. Nice pleasant sound, even on ****e recordings,
hence not high fidelity. Also softens really great recordings, so
****e sound, basically.

Hmmm, how does that work - both a 'Nice pleasant sound' and '****e
sound'......???

Nice, pleasant, inoffensive, muffled ****e is what comes out of my DVD
player.

My DAC, being clearer and more detailed, is less forgiving and, therefore,
better.

Nice to see that *someone* around here can read English! :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

If you choose to compare equipment by subjective means and call one
better than the other then that's okay too.

as long as there is *zero* expectation that ANYONE will agree with one...

So are we agreeing to actually listen to the kit?
Or should we just buy Which's "best buy" plonk it on a shelf and play our
one abba cd every time we have a party? (If anyone tries to play abba then
they don't deserve a nice hi-fi.....or friends...........or anything
really!)

David

If you choose to compare equipment by subjective means and call one
better than the other then that's okay too.

as long as there is *zero* expectation that ANYONE will agree with one...

So are we agreeing to actually listen to the kit?
Or should we just buy Which's "best buy" plonk it on a shelf and play our
one abba cd every time we have a party? (If anyone tries to play abba then
they don't deserve a nice hi-fi.....or friends...........or anything
really!)

David

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:55:07 +0000, Kurt Hamster
wrote:

On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 07:56:48 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton used
to say...

Be 'honest'??? What is it with all you SS 'purists'? You want us valvey
types to break down in some sort of confessional hysteria about our
'weaknesses'??? I got news for you - *all* hifi gear distorts to some
degree,

No, good equipment does *not* possess any *audible* distortion -
that's why it all sounds the same. There should be a 'duh' in there
somewhere............

Perhaps you should READ what you are replying to.

Why does "to some degree" suddently metamorphose into "audible"?

Perhaps you should *read* that to which you are replying.

Distorting 'to some degree' is irrelevant if it's not *audible*.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:55:07 +0000, Kurt Hamster
wrote:

On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 07:56:48 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton used
to say...

Be 'honest'??? What is it with all you SS 'purists'? You want us valvey
types to break down in some sort of confessional hysteria about our
'weaknesses'??? I got news for you - *all* hifi gear distorts to some
degree,

No, good equipment does *not* possess any *audible* distortion -
that's why it all sounds the same. There should be a 'duh' in there
somewhere............

Perhaps you should READ what you are replying to.

Why does "to some degree" suddently metamorphose into "audible"?

Perhaps you should *read* that to which you are replying.

Distorting 'to some degree' is irrelevant if it's not *audible*.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

snip

because if its inaudible, what is the point in discussing it? it is
irrelevant.


Supertweeters?

snip

because if its inaudible, what is the point in discussing it? it is
irrelevant.


Supertweeters?

On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:41:10 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:09:42 +0000
Kurt Hamster spewed:

And theres only one measure of how good an amp really is, in real
terms.

No there isn't.

Care to explain? (obviously, Im only speaking of the conditions where an
amp is working within its rated limits)

Subjective identity is not a 'measure', per se.

Also as an aside. A line length of 72 characters is far *better* than
one of 123 characters.

Yeah, I have to turn hardwrap off for some things and I always forget to
turn it on again...

Aaah, OK, all is forgiven - Alzheimer's is a bugger, ain't it? :-)

--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:41:10 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:09:42 +0000
Kurt Hamster spewed:

And theres only one measure of how good an amp really is, in real
terms.

No there isn't.

Care to explain? (obviously, Im only speaking of the conditions where an
amp is working within its rated limits)

Subjective identity is not a 'measure', per se.

Also as an aside. A line length of 72 characters is far *better* than
one of 123 characters.

Yeah, I have to turn hardwrap off for some things and I always forget to
turn it on again...

Aaah, OK, all is forgiven - Alzheimer's is a bugger, ain't it? :-)

--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:47:48 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:

On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 07:51:32 +0000 (UTC)
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:

Been there, done that. Nice pleasant sound, even on ****e recordings,
hence not high fidelity. Also softens really great recordings, so
****e sound, basically.

you're as bad as Keith... you say 'nice pleasant sound' and '****e
sound' referring to the same thing, in the same paragraph!

They are not mutually exclusive in terms of *high fidelity* sound.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering