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"What HiFi" - can it be trusted?



 
 
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Old January 8th 04, 11:57 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Julian Fowler
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On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:50:18 +0000, Ian Bell
wrote:

Keith G wrote:


Who TF gives a rat's arse about 'accurate reproduction' if it ain't
*musical*? - I'm in the business of entertaining myself, not supplying
myself with fekkin' laboratory data!


I do, because if it is *not* an accurate reproduction it won't be the the
performance the originator wanted you to hear.


Perfectly stated - the goal of hi-fidelity audio reproduction should
be to aloow the listener hear the music as the artists/producers
intended it to be heard (within the limitations of domestic
environments). How can I tell whether something is "musical" or not
(jn terms of the performance or its recording and production) if my
system isn't reproducing it with some degree of accuracy?

If that is not of interest
then you could always buy the sheet music ;-)


.... visions of the valve/vinyl brigade gathered around an out of tune
upright piano ... :-)

Julian

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Old January 8th 04, 12:00 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Ian Bell" wrote in message
...
Keith G wrote:


"Ian Bell" wrote

That doesn't surprise but then I bet they don't have identical
specs
anyway.



Actually, blind men don't wear specs - they mostly wear

shades......

You aobviously don't know very many blind men then.



Only these five:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keith_g/show/Mazin'%20Grace.mp3


Kool. Nice recording. Is there an album?



Several - start he

http://www.rosebudus.com/blindboys/

....and there's more than five of them now, it appears!!


Being blind hasn't stopped them breeding then ;-)




Wonder if they leave the lights on for that little 'extra'? :-)





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Old January 8th 04, 12:00 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Ian Bell" wrote in message
...
Keith G wrote:


"Ian Bell" wrote

That doesn't surprise but then I bet they don't have identical
specs
anyway.



Actually, blind men don't wear specs - they mostly wear

shades......

You aobviously don't know very many blind men then.



Only these five:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keith_g/show/Mazin'%20Grace.mp3


Kool. Nice recording. Is there an album?



Several - start he

http://www.rosebudus.com/blindboys/

....and there's more than five of them now, it appears!!


Being blind hasn't stopped them breeding then ;-)




Wonder if they leave the lights on for that little 'extra'? :-)





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Old January 8th 04, 12:01 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Ian Bell" wrote in message
...
Keith G wrote:


Who TF gives a rat's arse about 'accurate reproduction' if it ain't
*musical*? - I'm in the business of entertaining myself, not supplying
myself with fekkin' laboratory data!


I do, because if it is *not* an accurate reproduction it won't be the the
performance the originator wanted you to hear. If that is not of interest
then you could always buy the sheet music ;-)




I would reply to that but I've just used up today's quota......





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Old January 8th 04, 12:01 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Ian Bell" wrote in message
...
Keith G wrote:


Who TF gives a rat's arse about 'accurate reproduction' if it ain't
*musical*? - I'm in the business of entertaining myself, not supplying
myself with fekkin' laboratory data!


I do, because if it is *not* an accurate reproduction it won't be the the
performance the originator wanted you to hear. If that is not of interest
then you could always buy the sheet music ;-)




I would reply to that but I've just used up today's quota......





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Old January 8th 04, 12:04 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Wally
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Keith G wrote:

My DAC, being clearer and more detailed, is less forgiving and,
therefore, better.


Interesting, my recently-purchased eBench DVDP (38 quid!) sounds
quite good (for digital) ...


See, there you go - what does "sounds quite good (for digital)" mean, if it
isn't "nice, pleasant, inoffensive, muffled ****e"?


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  #327 (permalink)  
Old January 8th 04, 12:04 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Wally
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Default "What HiFi" - can it be trusted?

Keith G wrote:

My DAC, being clearer and more detailed, is less forgiving and,
therefore, better.


Interesting, my recently-purchased eBench DVDP (38 quid!) sounds
quite good (for digital) ...


See, there you go - what does "sounds quite good (for digital)" mean, if it
isn't "nice, pleasant, inoffensive, muffled ****e"?


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Wally
www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk
On webcam: Black Cat In Coal Cellar



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Old January 8th 04, 12:10 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Andy Evans
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the goal of hi-fidelity audio reproduction should be to aloow the listener hear
the music as the artists/producers
intended it to be heard

So what system best reproduces the sound of ringing cash registers.

=== Andy Evans ===
Visit our Website:- http://www.artsandmedia.com
Audio, music and health pages and interesting links.
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Old January 8th 04, 12:10 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Andy Evans
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Default "What HiFi" - can it be trusted?

the goal of hi-fidelity audio reproduction should be to aloow the listener hear
the music as the artists/producers
intended it to be heard

So what system best reproduces the sound of ringing cash registers.

=== Andy Evans ===
Visit our Website:- http://www.artsandmedia.com
Audio, music and health pages and interesting links.
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Old January 8th 04, 03:35 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Ian Molton
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On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:00:52 -0000
"Keith G" wrote:

Wonder if they leave the lights on for that little 'extra'? :-)


how would they know if anyone was watching? ;-)

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