WHY ANDREW JUTE MCCOY IS A LIAR
 

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:01:46 -0600, dave weil
wrote:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 11:17:24 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:06:45 -0500, George M. Middius cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote:




Stewèd Pukerton said:

participation in [the Special Olympics] does not imply brain
damage - were you hoping to qualify just on that account?

For anybody who's unfamiliar with Stewie's routines, this is a coded
message that means he's just cracked open a bottle of whiskeeey.

I never touch any spirit with an 'e' in it.............

That's a shame because a great tequila is a pleasure to drink. This is
probably an old-world bias on your part. You're missing out on a great
pleasure.

Rats! I forgot tequila. :-(

Having worked in Tucson Arizona for a couple of years, I have a
certain notoriety back home for my deadly Margaritas. People happily
knock back a large beaker of that tasty refreshing citrus drink at a
summer barbie, and then can't understand why their legs don't work
properly anymore... :-)

OTOH, sorry, tequila on its own tastes disgusting, hence the salt and
lime ritual. As ever, YMMV.

Not all tequila..here's a useful list
of 100% agave... wasting these in a margarita
is a sin....however even salt and lime can't redeem scotch.
Obviously those people have never been given the pleasure of a
fine Kentucky bourbon which at least has the decency of going
well with coke if you wish to retain the function of your legs :)

ScottW

WHY STEWART PINKERTON IS UNRELIABLE: 2. THE STATISTICS OF MALICE
 

Andre Jute wrote:

WHY STEWART PINKERTON IS UNRELIABLE

2. THE STATISTICS OF MALICE
In the latter part of 2004, at the request of leading members, I
started a major project called KISS on rec.audio.tubes (RAT). Pinkerton
arrived and announced he would deconstruct the project. Between the
beginning of October 2004 and the middle of February 2006 he sent 4607
messages to RAT, a labour conservatively estimated to have taken him
767 hours, or more than a quarter of his working hours in the same
period, the major part of his free time. He told us that the purpose
was to expose my ignorance and prevent others following in my
footsteps. His 4607 posts were all abusive. Only one, considered below,
was electronically specific enough for me to consider comparing it to
what I had published. As the result of Pinkerton's 4607 posts, not a
single line of the booklength KISS materials was altered, not a single
fact was altered, not a single schematic was altered in the slightest.
As the result of Pinkerton's 4607 posts, no party interested in the
KISS project in the beginning dropped out, and no one who became
interested during its course was deterred in the slightest.
Pinkerton's 4607 vicious posts gave him great satisfaction, according
to him, but had no other result whatsoever (except to make
Pinkerton's name a byword for barbaric insensitivity and foul
manners). In all Pinkerton's 4607 posts counted here, he did not once
analyze the circuit of the amp he objected to while it stood for more
than a year on public view. By contrast to Pinkerton's vicious and
loud slackness, Patrick Turner analyzed the circuit and made
suggestions which were incorporated, and John Byrns made another
important suggestion which we shall shortly discuss and then
incorporate because I have already tested it. From Pinkerton all this
while, zero. In short, Pinkerton's claim of my ignorance is a sham,
an excuse for him to indulge his malicious urge to bring pain to
everyone else, 4607 times in 15 months on a single newsgroup.

Andre Jute

Part of a series of articles:
WHY STEWART PINKERTON IS UNRELIABLE
1. BACKGROUND
2. THE STATISTICS OF MALICE
3. PINKERTON'S IGNORANCE OF THE BASICS
4. PINKERTON LIES ON PROFESSIONAL MATTERS FOR PERSONAL REASONS
5. CONCLUSION

Stewart Pinkerton writes to offer his own message count:
Click on the above links, use advanced search on author, restrict groups to rec.audio.tubes and dates from 1 October 2004 to current date, and you get the following results:
Andre Jute - 662
Stewart Pinkerton - 602

I'm happy to accept Pinkerton's count. But we should note that Jute was
presenting the major KISS project, and yet Pinkerton sent 90 per cent
as many posts as Jute did. This alone is indicative of Pinkerton
maliciously trying to take over Jute's project.

That Pinkerton waged a pointless flame war for its own sake is
indicated by Jute's summary: "As the result of Pinkerton's 602 posts,
not a single line of the booklength KISS materials was altered, not a
single fact was altered, not a single schematic was altered in the
slightest."

After 111 posts and 100 hours on public view, the revised count was the
only argument offered in this analysis of Pinkerton's malice. The other
facts stand unchallenged.

Andre Jute

WHY STEWART PINKERTON IS UNRELIABLE: 2. THE STATISTICS OF MALICE
 

But we should note that Jute was presenting the major KISS project,

Mr. McCoy:

As noted and as is becoming more and more clear as even your "Timmies"
and your various and sundry other acolytes appear to be abandoning you:

You write only for yourself. Drop the "we" crap. Lest you think
otherwise, I write only for myself as well...

And your "major " project just does also appear to happen to be a
loose system of fantasies supported by anecdotes of doubtful veracity.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

WHY ANDREW JUTE MCCOY IS A LIAR
 

"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote
in message ...



Stewèd Pukerton said:

participation in [the Special Olympics] does not imply brain
damage - were you hoping to qualify just on that account?

For anybody who's unfamiliar with Stewie's routines, this is a coded
message that means he's just cracked open a bottle of whiskeeey.


Time to drown out his sobrieeety.



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WHY ANDREW JUTE MCCOY IS A LIAR
 

On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 13:44:44 -0800, "ScottW"
wrote:


"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:01:46 -0600, dave weil
wrote:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 11:17:24 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:06:45 -0500, George M. Middius cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote:




Stewèd Pukerton said:

participation in [the Special Olympics] does not imply brain
damage - were you hoping to qualify just on that account?

For anybody who's unfamiliar with Stewie's routines, this is a coded
message that means he's just cracked open a bottle of whiskeeey.

I never touch any spirit with an 'e' in it.............

That's a shame because a great tequila is a pleasure to drink. This is
probably an old-world bias on your part. You're missing out on a great
pleasure.

Rats! I forgot tequila. :-(

Having worked in Tucson Arizona for a couple of years, I have a
certain notoriety back home for my deadly Margaritas. People happily
knock back a large beaker of that tasty refreshing citrus drink at a
summer barbie, and then can't understand why their legs don't work
properly anymore... :-)

OTOH, sorry, tequila on its own tastes disgusting, hence the salt and
lime ritual. As ever, YMMV.

Not all tequila..here's a useful list
of 100% agave... wasting these in a margarita
is a sin....however even salt and lime can't redeem scotch.

Indeed not - a fine single malt Scotch should only be served with more
of the same - or a dash of highland spring water.

Obviously those people have never been given the pleasure of a
fine Kentucky bourbon which at least has the decency of going
well with coke if you wish to retain the function of your legs :)

Any drink that goes well with Coke can be instantly dismissed...

Military intelligence = fine Kentucky Bourbon
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

WHY STEWART PINKERTON IS UNRELIABLE: 2. THE STATISTICS OF MALICE
 

On 5 Mar 2006 17:45:32 -0800, " wrote:

But we should note that Jute was presenting the major KISS project,

Mr. McCoy:

As noted and as is becoming more and more clear as even your "Timmies"
and your various and sundry other acolytes appear to be abandoning you:

You write only for yourself. Drop the "we" crap. Lest you think
otherwise, I write only for myself as well...

And your "major " project just does also appear to happen to be a
loose system of fantasies supported by anecdotes of doubtful veracity.

Interesting how fast Jute dropped his claim of 4607 posts from me, and
accepted the true number of 602. Also interesting (and entirely
predictable) that he assumes that it's all about him - these were my
*total* posts to RAT over an 18 month period. An average of one post a
day, and included my own 'major KISASS project', which is every bit as
substantial as Jute's endless turgid prose surrounding a very simple
amplifier.

Shame that he can't apply the same KISS principle to the 'design'
articles, which could have been wrapped up in a couple of hundred
lines, rather than the endless thousands of lines of purple prose,
wild assertions and self-aggrandisement that he's taken to get halfway
through the exercise to date.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

WHY STEWART PINKERTON IS UNRELIABLE: 2. THE STATISTICS OF MALICE
 

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...
said:

If one adds the line "In my opinion", or "just speaking for myself" ,
one is almost certain to be attacked for saying that by Arny Krueger.

Oh well, damned if you do, damned if you don't.


Actually, that's the best way to keep Arny from bothering with you at all.
It's when people say things like SET's are great sounding amps. Or CD
players have gigantic differences in sound quality, that will get his
attention.


See:
http://groups.google.nl/group/rec.au...5cb7e03aa27c90

Quote:
__________________________________________________ ____________

Me:

However, those are just my observations.


Arny:

Which you'll repeat early and often in the hope that they will
convince...
__________________________________________________ ____________

End Quote



I think that you know as well as anybody, that Stewart, while not exactly
shy about expressing his opinions, (as if that were strange around here)
is
in fact a well qualified EE.



Quote:
__________________________________________________ ____________

Me:

Pinkerton gets not nearly as much attacked as Arny, and
to be honest, I think that Pinkerton is a lot better
versed in electronics on a component level.


Arny:

I don't think you're qualified to judge either of us, Sander.


Me:

That, and he has a kind of humour that I can appreciate.


Arny:

You obviously tolerate racist comments well.
__________________________________________________ ____________

End Quote



I was thinking of people without quite so much history as the 2 of you have,
plus you were not discussing audio in that post.

WHY STEWART PINKERTON IS UNRELIABLE: 2. THE STATISTICS OF MALICE
 

"dave weil" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 21:49:02 GMT, wrote:


"dave weil" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 23:29:52 GMT, wrote:


"dave weil" wrote in message
m...
On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 17:12:02 GMT, wrote:

How would you know that an amp NOT YET BUILT would sound "****ty"?

Because it was an SET.

Can you give us the names of the last 10 SETs that you've listened to?

I could, but then I'd have to kill you.
Besides, one POS amp is enough, or are you telling me that there are SET
amps that can play at normal levels without massive distortion?

OK, how about even one SET that you have sampled? It would be nice to
know the associated gear (especially speakers) and what kind of music
you listened to. Quoting from any on-the-spot notes that you made
would be nice, but you can use your memory if you'd like. It would be
nice to hear what specifically bothered you about the sound.

BTW, are you telling me that if I listened to a single SS amp, like,
say a Phase Linear amp, I'd be able to condemn the whole species?
Because that's what you seem to be saying, that one can extrapolate
from a single example.


The only SET I ever heard was one that a friend had built from a kit.
This
was over 12 years ago. At the time I compare it to a 40 WPC HK730, which
easily sounded better to me.

I guess, since you haven't bothered to listen to any commercial SETs,
that we can pretty much disregard your comments about how SETs sound.

You mean there has been a sudden upswing in the technology and theya re not
distortion generators anymore?

I'm pretty sure the people who are going to buy an SET would never be
disuaded by the fact that they are getting into double digit distortion.

This guy was a very big tube and LP advocate and had no use whatsoever fo
SS, and that's his perogative. It's simply not what I care about.

And that doesn't really even say anything about the quality of his
build, the kind of kit it was, the type of tubes that were used, etc.
In fact, you can't even say what kind of speakers were being used.


They were like mine, his own design and very good.
He's the same guy that sold me the Accustat amp.

You seem to forget that it's about accuracy for me. Knowing that a device
is generating audible distortion automatically disqualifies it from being
considered for anything other than a doorstop/ room heater.

Ahhh, it's the "knowing". Sort of a placebo effect, eh?

No, distortion in SET's is very real.

It's bad enough that speakers have as much distortion as they do, I don't
want another device that would effectively double it. That's why I firmly
believe that the real high end that people ought to be pursuing is
loudspeakers. Nothing, absolutely nothing makes more improvement to an
audio system than upgrading speaker performance, either by tuning the room
passively or through active means, or some combination.

The single biggest producer of distortion in an audio system is coming
from
the speakers and the only methods I'm aware of for changing that are going
to come from new materials, sensors, more drivers, or auto EQ built into
the
speakers, ala the NHT's that were favorably reviewed in SP a while ago.
There's no point for me to bother with anything else, since it can't
improve
the overall accuracy of the system.

Then you shouldn't comment on how good or bad they are, since you're
not willing to even bother evaluating them (SETs) in person.

The fact that they generate distortion is a known fact, I'm not allowed to
state the known?

I'm not willing to evaluate things that are unquestionably not going to
improve my system.
An SET could never drive my speakers to an acceptable level anyway.

Show me one reasonably priced (under $1000.00) SET amp that can produce
100+
watts and not have audible distortion, and I'll consider it for a listen.

Why would you need 100+ watts? What is it about those words that
defines hi-fi for you?

Live levels. You can't approach that in most rooms with less than that
unless you have horns.

WHY STEWART PINKERTON IS UNRELIABLE: 2. THE STATISTICS OF MALICE
 

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On 5 Mar 2006 17:45:32 -0800, " wrote:

But we should note that Jute was presenting the major KISS project,

Mr. McCoy:

As noted and as is becoming more and more clear as even your "Timmies"
and your various and sundry other acolytes appear to be abandoning you:

You write only for yourself. Drop the "we" crap. Lest you think
otherwise, I write only for myself as well...

And your "major " project just does also appear to happen to be a
loose system of fantasies supported by anecdotes of doubtful veracity.

Interesting how fast Jute dropped his claim of 4607 posts from me, and
accepted the true number of 602. Also interesting (and entirely
predictable) that he assumes that it's all about him - these were my
*total* posts to RAT over an 18 month period. An average of one post a
day, and included my own 'major KISASS project', which is every bit as
substantial as Jute's endless turgid prose surrounding a very simple
amplifier.


I won another $500.00 for predicting that he would back off his first
number. I got word of winning the bet while I was giving shooting lessons
to the F.B.I. right after a session of tuning up my car to compete in the
Baja endurance classic. :-)


Shame that he can't apply the same KISS principle to the 'design'
articles, which could have been wrapped up in a couple of hundred
lines, rather than the endless thousands of lines of purple prose,
wild assertions and self-aggrandisement that he's taken to get halfway
through the exercise to date.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

WHY ANDREW JUTE MCCOY IS A LIAR
 

On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 07:18:53 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:

Any drink that goes well with Coke can be instantly dismissed...

And yet you're willing to drink something with a half-assed lemonade
and melted orange bonbons.