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Keith G November 16th 04 11:02 PM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale Diamond II's
 

"mick" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:35:49 +0000, Kurt Hamster wrote:

snip

Sorry to break this to you Pinky, but in the real world not many give a
flying ****, all they want is to listen to music that is pleasing to the
ear.


AT LAST!!!! Someone talks sense! :-)

There *is* a place for perfectly flat, non-distorting wires with gain.



Except that they don't exist....






Keith G November 16th 04 11:12 PM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale Diamond II's
 

"Trevor Wilson" wrote


**Nor does it seem to be Keith's, for that matter.



It might interest you to know that 'Grammar' School I attended was founded
230 years *before* Arthur Phillip landed at Sydney and the fact that you are
too fekkin' thick to spot 'style', 'affectation' or deliberate
'colloquialisms' in anyone's posts (mine in particular) just goes to show
'ow fik yew akshewally are, boi.....





Trevor Wilson November 16th 04 11:17 PM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale Diamond II's
 

"Kurt Hamster" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:54:13 GMT, Trevor Wilson used
to say...


"Kurt Hamster" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:23:02 GMT, Trevor Wilson used
to say...


"Keith G" wrote in message
...

**Hmmm. OK. I'll let it drop.


You will? That's a relief!! :-)

**For me too. Your writing is appallingly bad. It would take all day to
dissect just one post.

Well it is a UK group and as English obviously isn't your first
language...


**Nor does it seem to be Keith's, for that matter.


How would you know? You're Australian.


**I realise that this may be a bit of a shock, but every Australian
schoolkid learns English grammar. I was an Australian schoolkid. Therefore,
I learned English grammar. I was also taught the English spelling of most
words. You know the stuff: Theatre, Metre, gaol, et al.

As to how I know that Keith's posts are an appalling indictment of the
British education system, I simply invite you to read a typical response,
from him, to one of my posts. If you REALLY cannot find fault, then YOU have
serious problems with the use and abuse of the English language.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au



Trevor Wilson November 16th 04 11:25 PM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale Diamond II's
 

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Trevor Wilson" wrote


**Nor does it seem to be Keith's, for that matter.



It might interest you to know that 'Grammar' School I attended was founded
230 years *before* Arthur Phillip landed at Sydney and the fact that you
are too fekkin' thick to spot 'style', 'affectation' or deliberate
'colloquialisms' in anyone's posts (mine in particular) just goes to show
'ow fik yew akshewally are, boi.....


**It matters not that your posting flaws are deliberate, or not, does it?


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au



Dave Plowman (News) November 16th 04 11:37 PM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale Diamond II's
 
In article ,
Kurt Hamster wrote:
The same 'high' temperature relative to the outside one? If you really
don't understand what I mean, then just remove the high. Makes no
difference. You're saving fuel by reducing the temperature, and wasting
some by leaving it on 24 hours.


I still don't think you are making sense.


Old scenario: 22 degrees - 3hrs in the morning, 5 in the evening = 8hrs
New scenario: 20 degrees - 24hrs a day


Now you tell me how the 2 degree drop over an 8 hour period is going to
make a difference and overide the heating being on for another 16 hours?


It would totally depend on the outside temperature. If this was say 20,
then the heating could be on for ever and not cost anything. At 22, it
would be on using fuel.


Did you think I was guessing?

Since you do about near everything else, why not this?

I rarely guess about something I care about.

FWIW, this isn't a matter of my opinion. Do some research if my word
isn't good enough. Which I'll expect you'll agree with.

This isn't a matter of my opinion. My gas bills tell me it works. I
choose them over you, natch!

You've made the classic mistake - so common on here - of advocating two
lines of action, reducing the overall temperture while running it 24
hours. And attributing the savings to the wrong one - running it 24 hours.


All so you can 'win' the point. ********, it works. My gas bills are
reducing.


Forgot for a minute you were one of those ******* who need to 'win'
everything and thought you might for once want to impart some sincere
advice. But of course I was mistaken.


Who said anything about me winning anything. I've already made my
statement based on the demonstrative proof of my gas bills.


The proof based on taking two courses of action and assigning the
improvement to the wrong one.

But you carry on - it's your money your wasting.

--
*Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Keith G November 16th 04 11:37 PM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale Diamond II's
 

"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Trevor Wilson" wrote


**Nor does it seem to be Keith's, for that matter.



It might interest you to know that 'Grammar' School I attended was
founded 230 years *before* Arthur Phillip landed at Sydney and the fact
that you are too fekkin' thick to spot 'style', 'affectation' or
deliberate 'colloquialisms' in anyone's posts (mine in particular) just
goes to show 'ow fik yew akshewally are, boi.....


**It matters not that your posting flaws are deliberate, or not, does it?




That's two 'nots' - did you mean to do that? (Poor syntax.... :-)

Off to do the movie now - 'Troy', so I might be back later. (Not looking
forward to it too muchly...)






Dave Plowman (News) November 16th 04 11:42 PM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale Diamond II's
 
In article ,
Kurt Hamster wrote:
It appears that neither do you. You seem to insist on accuracy that the
majority of people neither want or are interested in. You seem to think
that just because it's important to you then it should be that way to
everyone.


Sorry to break this to you Pinky, but in the real world not many give a
flying ****, all they want is to listen to music that is pleasing to the
ear.


Then why waste so much of your time posting here? After all there's
nothing more to be said if you believe your above statement. Just listen
to your music and enjoy it.

--
*Filthy stinking rich -- well, two out of three ain't bad

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Trevor Wilson November 17th 04 12:01 AM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale Diamond II's
 

"Kurt Hamster" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 00:17:21 GMT, Trevor Wilson used
to say...


"Kurt Hamster" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:54:13 GMT, Trevor Wilson used
to say...


"Kurt Hamster" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:23:02 GMT, Trevor Wilson used
to say...


"Keith G" wrote in message
...

**Hmmm. OK. I'll let it drop.


You will? That's a relief!! :-)

**For me too. Your writing is appallingly bad. It would take all day
to
dissect just one post.

Well it is a UK group and as English obviously isn't your first
language...

**Nor does it seem to be Keith's, for that matter.

How would you know? You're Australian.


**I realise that this may be a bit of a shock, but every Australian
schoolkid learns English grammar. I was an Australian schoolkid.
Therefore,
I learned English grammar. I was also taught the English spelling of most
words. You know the stuff: Theatre, Metre, gaol, et al.


Australian English perhaps, certainly not UK English.


**It's very bloody close. Trust me.


I understand Keith's writing style perfectly. Perhaps that because I'm
resident in this country and understand colloquialisms etc. Likewise I'm
sure that there would be a few things spoken in inner city Sydney that I
wouldn't have the first idea about.


**Very likely the case. I'm not speaking about colloquialisms. Read one of
his replies. Grammatically, they stink.


As to how I know that Keith's posts are an appalling indictment of the
British education system, I simply invite you to read a typical response,
from him, to one of my posts. If you REALLY cannot find fault, then YOU
have
serious problems with the use and abuse of the English language.


I can understand him, it's as simple as that.


**No, it is not as simple as that. I'll brief you with the recent past, then
you may understand where I am coming from.

* I made (one of my many) grammatical errors in one of my posts.
* Keith took it upon himself to criticise my incorrect use of grammar
(Clearly, Keith understood my words, in spite of my incorrect use of
English).
* I then suggested that Keith's grammar (not his use of colloquialisms) was
not of the highest standards.


Given that you have stated
that you have difficulties understanding what is basically standard
English dialect, and yours is the first comment I've seen complaining of
comprehension difficulties then my I suggest that a UK newsgroup may not
be an appropriate place for you.


**You may suggest that. That is your right to do so. When I have professed
my non-understanding of particular words or phrases, I ask. Usually, the
answer is short and polite. In any case, Keith chose some obscure, dead
language to make a point, the other day. Hardly common words in the UK, I
should think. Common, for those who went to schools which teach (taught)
those same dead (and useless) languages, however.


$DEITY forbid we get a Scouser or Geordie in here, you'll be well ****ed
then mate.


**I doubt it.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au



Tat Chan November 17th 04 12:23 AM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale DiamondII's
 
Kurt Hamster wrote:
On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 23:35:28 +0000, Ian Molton used
to say...


Keith G wrote:


OK: I consider valve amps to generally sound clear, warm and fluid and am
perfectly happy to ascribe all of that to some form of distortion. I
consider, by comparison, ss amps to sound vague, cold and harsh and am happy
to ascribe all of that to some form of distortion.



snip

Ok, in that case, explain to me why you cant seem to even accept the
possibility that (good) SS amps sound 'cold and harsh' due to an absence
of audible distortion.

(or will you continue to pretend that you ****-canned me (yeah, right))



Don't like to be ignored in your pursuit of the role of Pinky glove
puppet eh?



would you have posted that remark if Ian was a so-called "glove puppet"
for the valvies instead?

Btw, he posted a reasonable question.

Tat Chan November 17th 04 12:29 AM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale DiamondII's
 
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:54:48 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


My recollection is that he said *something very like* any ss amp costing
£300 or more qualified as 'good'



Wrong. I might well have said any *well-designed* SS amp costing more
than £300.


at the same time he made some stupid remark
(equally forgotten now) about valve amps - a subject he knows nothing about
in the modern context, btw.



There *is* no modern context for valve amps, you moron.



None of my EE friends learnt about valves in uni ... it was all BJTs,
JFETs and MOSFETs ...

welcome to the 21st century.

(so I guess the only people who will end up with practical, working
knowledge about valves will be people who service valve guitar amps ...)



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