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In article , Andy Evans
wrote:
There *is* a place for perfectly flat, non-distorting wires with gain.
They are desperately needed for instrumentation purposes. I, personally,
am still unconvinced that they are needed for listening to music though!

Why has nobody stated this already!

Dunno about in this thread. However I think I've commented to the following
effect a number of times in the past:

That in most domestic audio systems the departures from 'flat' of the
frequency response and distortion levels produced by the loudspeakers and
the room acoustic are such that I'd suspect they are much greater than the
frequency response departures and distortion contributions of many
amplifiers.

However my personal response to that is to worry more about speakers and
rooms, and less about amplifiers. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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In article ,
Kurt Hamster wrote:
Now that all depends on what one considers as 'audio' now doesn't it?

Try reading the FAQ. Of course I'd expect you to argue with that too.

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In article ,
Kurt Hamster wrote:
I'm surprised anyone can be so thick as you and still manage to breathe.

You're still here aren't you? I note your keyboard bravery as well.

If insulting someone is bravery you must be Richard the Lionheart...

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In article ,
Tat Chan wrote:
you said if you knew Keith then you would have said that Ian was a glove
puppet if Ian posted pro-valve views (or echoed Keith's views).

However, since you said that Ian is trying to be Pinky's glove puppet
then does that imply you know SP?

Haven't you noticed the rodent's technique is simply to disagree with
*anything* certain people write?

It's called trolling.

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In article ,
Trevor Wilson wrote:
**I'm waiting to hear your point. More correctly: Your excuse for your
terrible writing style and your general inability to understand basic
logic and reason. Perhaps you paid too much attention to a long dead
(and useless) language, rather than useful subjects.

Brain damage from years of alcohol abuse.

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Nick Gorham wrote:
Tat Chan wrote:


so, yes, there are people other than guitar techs who know about valve
amps.

Let me shift the goalposts a bit ... ;)

Are there any universities that still teach valve (or tube) technology
as a *core* part of an EE degree?


I don't think so, you point being ?


valves are outdated technology?

;)

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Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:47:43 +0000, Kurt Hamster
wrote:


I gather it went tits up when your local council refuse collection went
out to tender.


Don't get me fekkin' started on these bozos! Now we have to have two,
count 'em *TWO* fekkin' great wheelie bins!! And we have to separate
everything out for the idle fekkers...............

two? what for?

surely one for general waste, and the other for recycling?

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Tat Chan wrote:

you said if you knew Keith then you would have said that Ian was a glove
puppet if Ian posted pro-valve views (or echoed Keith's views).


However, since you said that Ian is trying to be Pinky's glove puppet
then does that imply you know SP?


Haven't you noticed the rodent's technique is simply to disagree with
*anything* certain people write?

It's called trolling.


I'll be generous here ... he's entitled to his opinions, though I know that Kurt
seems to have disagreements with Stewart and Ian Molton ...

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Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:39:58 +1100, Tat Chan
wrote:


Stewart Pinkerton wrote:


On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 23:56:49 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:



"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...


"Keith G" wrote in message
...


'Cos the point is, if you have to go and buy a *good* amp (when we are
told all ss amps over £300 qualify as 'good' ??)

**I never said anything of the kind. Moreover, I don't beleive that anyone
ever said anything like that.

Oh yes they did - it wuz Pinkypoof.


More typical ******** from the hairy-arsed ex-trucker. I never said
any such thing, indeed I'll point you to Tim de Paravicini's
solid-state version of his Yoshino, which is a *very* bad amp, and
costs lots more than £300.

why is it "bad"?

- it isn't a wire with gain?
- lots of audible distortion?
- it "sounds" like a valve amp?


All of the above.


so a SS amp can be designed to sound like a valve amp?


btw, Marshall used to (still do?) make a line of guitar amps called the
"Valvestate" series. The amps were SS amps that were meant to sound like
valve amps (so I assume they sounded pleasant when overdriven) and were
cheaper than valve amps.


But they didn't in fact sound like valve amps..............

I don't have experience with valve guitar amps ... but I do have a Marshall
Valvestate ... maybe I should try to whack on heaps of distortion the next time
I crank out "Smoke on the Water"?

;)

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Tat Chan wrote:
Nick Gorham wrote:

Tat Chan wrote:


so, yes, there are people other than guitar techs who know about
valve amps.

Let me shift the goalposts a bit ... ;)

Are there any universities that still teach valve (or tube)
technology as a *core* part of an EE degree?



I don't think so, you point being ?


valves are outdated technology?

;)

I don't think anyone will argue that valves are old technology, but does
that as such have any bearing on anything ?

Are you suggesting that new is always better ?

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Nick