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Ian Molton November 17th 04 12:44 PM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale DiamondII's
 
Tat Chan wrote:

two? what for?

surely one for general waste, and the other for recycling?


Its worse than that here. we have THREE and we only get collection of
two of them every other week.

one wheelie for rubbish
one wheelie for 'garden waste' (fekkin' hillarious as our garden is
largely concrete)
one box (which reeks because they always give us someone elses back) for
recycling (cans and glass bottles only since they're too incompetant to
recycle even plastic bottles, let alone any metal not in the shape of a
can...

Keith G November 17th 04 01:10 PM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale Diamond II's
 

"Tat Chan" wrote in message
...
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:47:43 +0000, Kurt Hamster
wrote:


I gather it went tits up when your local council refuse collection went
out to tender.



Don't get me fekkin' started on these bozos! Now we have to have two,
count 'em *TWO* fekkin' great wheelie bins!! And we have to separate
everything out for the idle fekkers...............


two? what for?

surely one for general waste, and the other for recycling?



Presumably, but we get 3 - one for crap, one for recycling and one for
garden (green, compostable) waste and it works very well.

The incredibly selfish, short-sighted and lazy remark you are replying to is
an excellent indicator of the sort of mindless chav who actually thinks
pushing 6 million packages of ****e into the ecology every week (?) is
summat to be proud of!!




Keith G November 17th 04 01:13 PM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale Diamond II's
 

"Tat Chan" wrote in message
...
Nick Gorham wrote:
Tat Chan wrote:


so, yes, there are people other than guitar techs who know about valve
amps.

Let me shift the goalposts a bit ... ;)

Are there any universities that still teach valve (or tube) technology
as a *core* part of an EE degree?



I don't think so, you point being ?


valves are outdated technology?




What, like scissors??






Ian Molton November 17th 04 01:14 PM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale DiamondII's
 
Kurt Hamster wrote:
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 02:48:05 +0000, Ian Molton used
to say...


Jim Lesurf wrote:


The difficulty here is that we have no well-founded theory or set of
observations that allow us to define the required 'effect' in functional
terms we could consider implimenting in engineering. Until we do, it
remains hard to say what might or might not be buildable to achive the
(ill-defined) result.


I'd settle for simply being able to demonstrate that the effect is
audible in DBTs by those who claim to hear it.



DBTs do not take into account psycho-acoustics.


I fail to see why not. if a person is perceiving something that isnt
there due to nonlinearities in their hearing / perception, they will
probably hear the same 'something' on every recording where it is present.

psycho-acoustic phenomena arent 'made up', they are an artifact of a
persons hearing.

If the effects existence can be verified, THEN Im interested in tracking
it down.


Why?


Because I find that most times someone makes an extrodinary claim, it is
genuinely ********. Im not interested in tracking down a figment of
someone elses immagination.

Ian Molton November 17th 04 01:15 PM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale DiamondII's
 
Kurt Hamster wrote:

So isn't it about time you added your page to the UKRA website so that
we can all see the results of the wisdom you have gained in the field of
audiophilia?


Why? If I get round to putting up a page about audio it'll be on my website.

Keith G November 17th 04 01:15 PM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale Diamond II's
 

"Tat Chan"


Oh yes they did - it wuz Pinkypoof.


More typical ******** from the hairy-arsed ex-trucker. I never said
any such thing, indeed I'll point you to Tim de Paravicini's
solid-state version of his Yoshino, which is a *very* bad amp, and
costs lots more than £300.

why is it "bad"?

- it isn't a wire with gain?
- lots of audible distortion?
- it "sounds" like a valve amp?



All of the above.


so a SS amp can be designed to sound like a valve amp?




Difficult to find an advert for an ss amp in a UK comic that doesn't use the
word 'valvelike' at some point, these days......






Ian Molton November 17th 04 01:18 PM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale DiamondII's
 
Kurt Hamster wrote:

That wasnt my question. My question asked why Keith couldnt accept the
'cold harsh sound' of SS amps was due to a LACK of audible distortion.


Who said he couldn't accept it? He has remarked several times that he
doesn't really care why the sound was off.


I say so. Hes remarked a number of times that SS amps distort or remove
something. he seems desperate to prove that valve amps offer 'value
added' and SS amps take away from the sound.

I said nothing about wether valve amps distort.


That would make a change. I got so used to it being your mantra that I
presumed it was at the root of your question.


Yeah well, we all know you like to presume too much m8.

Ian Molton November 17th 04 01:25 PM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale DiamondII's
 
Keith G wrote:
"Tat Chan" wrote in message


valves are outdated technology?


What, like scissors??


No, not like scissors. Valves have been superceeded. Scissors (arguably)
have not.

Andy Evans November 17th 04 01:36 PM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale Diamond
 
I don't think anyone will argue that valves are old technology, but does that
as such have any bearing on anything ?

Certainly does - it encourages new production of UX bases to get those lovely
26,27,37,53,56,76 tubes back up and running!

=== Andy Evans ===
Visit our Website:- http://www.artsandmedia.com
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Don Pearce November 17th 04 01:48 PM

Valve amp (preferably DIY) to drive apair of Wharfedale Diamond II's
 
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:10:55 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Tat Chan" wrote in message
...
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:47:43 +0000, Kurt Hamster
wrote:


I gather it went tits up when your local council refuse collection went
out to tender.


Don't get me fekkin' started on these bozos! Now we have to have two,
count 'em *TWO* fekkin' great wheelie bins!! And we have to separate
everything out for the idle fekkers...............


two? what for?

surely one for general waste, and the other for recycling?



Presumably, but we get 3 - one for crap, one for recycling and one for
garden (green, compostable) waste and it works very well.

The incredibly selfish, short-sighted and lazy remark you are replying to is
an excellent indicator of the sort of mindless chav who actually thinks
pushing 6 million packages of ****e into the ecology every week (?) is
summat to be proud of!!



Absolutely everything that is rottable goes on my compost heap in the
garden, In my case, that leaves essentially nothing as I don't buy
anything in tins, and the very few bottles, like olive oil, last for
ages. Veg comes from the market in paper bags, as does fish and meat.

What else it there?

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com


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