DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
No, just a DAB tuner cost about the same as an FM tuner and gives me
more choice for background music. I think I said that but you're not
listening. Maybe that's why you think FM is better, you don't listen
properly.
Given the number of degrees I've got, I'd say I'm pretty good at
taking-in what people are saying.
Given the number of graduates I've interviewed I'd say you have ideas above
your station. All those degrees doing you well in the finance department????
My car radio will make 105dbA at drivers ear level before notable
distortion. I can still hear the road noise (64dbA at 70mph on a
quiet motorway).
I suggest you read about psychoacoustics:
why? what difference will reading about psychoacoustics make to the fact
that the in-car listening environment is not that good?
No hiss whatsoever ?
To quote one of your replies earlier in the thread...
"Hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahaha"
Well, a little bit.
"Hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahaha"
I know at least three households without TV. But then, I have
friends.
I've got plenty of friends, thanks for your concern. And at least my
friends aren't geeks and nerds.
Oh dear.... no valid argument so result to insulting my friends... nice...
digital sat needs a dish
So?
Expense,
Is £75 too expensive for a full digital satellite system?:
http://www.sateuropa.co.uk/product_o...id=1&subcat=14
I see, so I order one (75 quid), have it installed (say two hours labour, 80
quid), and then I have a radio I can use... oh wait, no. I need amp and
speakers. Oh wait again.. no... it's in the kitchen, I'll just drag it to
the bedroom so I can listen to... oh damn... the coax has snapped. Never
mind.
WTF have your parents got to do with it? I said last time: your
parents are irrelevant. We're talking about the behaviour of the UK
population, not your frigging mam and dad.
They are pretty much representative of the kind of people for whom the real
issues of availabilty of subscription free and low capital cost radio is a
priority. And the kind of people who value the content over the sound
quality. And the kind of people who listen to R2/R3/R4 / Jazz / Classic FM
plus local radio, therefore not served at all by Freeview (no Classic FM) or
Sat (no local radio)
No, oddly enough I reckon he'll thank me for it.
Quite possibly. There's certainly a high correlation between being
technophobic and liking DAB.
I hope that by the time you're 68 and suffering alzheimers that they've
turned off FM. You deserve it.
Yes, it's a step up from a clock radio, and a step down from my
living room setup.
No, you plonker, there's things in between a sodding clock radio and a
separates hi-fi system.
Yes, and as I've said, mini / midi / portable systems are in that gap.
It doesn't have DAB, it has FM - I have nothing
against FM other than the lack of choice (4x BBC channels, 1 of which
is filled with 24 hr crap, a dull BBC Local station, two
similar-sounding independant stations
But you seemed to be proud of the fact that you hadn't installed a
rooftop FM aerial. I take it you realise that installing a rooftop
aerial would have allowed you to receive more stations and improved
the reception quality on FM?
No, it would not get me any significant increase in choice. I'd get Radio
York, Leeds, Aire etc. The main stations sound fine on that unit within the
restrictions its amps and speakers impose.
And, I suppose, installing a better aerial wouldn't have improved the
problem with hiss on that station? Nah, course not.
Of course, but then you lose all that flexibility of using the radio where
you want it.... etc.... etc... And still no solution for increased programme
choice.
If you want DAB to sound as good as CD then you need 1500 kbps....
CD audio is 16-bit x 44.1kHz x 2 = 1411kbps.
OMG... A pedant....
To sound close you need 3-500 kbps.
This is just crazy. You're supposed to be an audiophile and yet you're
sticking up for the lamentable current DAB implementation where 98% of
music stations use 128kbps, and you're now accusing me (I do not
consider myself to be an audiophile, but I do like audio and recognise
bad audio when I hear it) of expecting DAB to provide CD-quality
sound?
When do I say I was an "audiophile"? or when did I say you expected "DAB to
sound like CD"? IIRC you said "Are you seriously trying to use an analogy
that MDs don't sound as good as CDs so it's acceptable for DAB to sound a
bit worse than CDs?" so you're the one who inferred that it should...
You really haven't got a clue, have you? Try recording some DAB music
stations and look at their frequency response. They all (or all the
ones I've ever looked at) use a brickwall filter at somewhere between
15kHz - 16kHz.
Better things to do with my time just now - will do it sometime though.
And, did you know that there's actually no good scientific argument
why Radio 3 requires a higher bit rate than pop music stations? In
fact, pop music is more difficult to encode than classical music! To
understand why this is the case, then you need to read about
psychoacoustics. There's a link to get you started:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoacoustics
There you go again - assuming I know less than you about audio
compression.... Entirely possible, but quite unlikely.
Your parents are irrelevant. We're talking about macro behaviour,
not ultra-micro individual behaviour.
Are you Borg?
Ah, sorry, I thought you'd understand that the terms were borrowed
from economics (i.e. macro- and micro-economics). I won't make any
further assumptions that require you to understand anything more than
your average Sun reader.
My /jibe/ was aimed at the first four words in your phrase, not the last 10.
But then I'm guessing you only manage to get as far as the pictures in the
Sun. Oh, and on the occasions I buy a newspaper, it has /never/ been the
Sun.
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