Tim S Kemp wrote:
You're the one whining about the quality of DAB when it provides
more than just an alternative to FM, and provides massive enjoyment
to those who enjoy radio for its content.
"Massive enjoyment"? You ought to get out more.
Tell that to the housebound OAPs whose radio is there main source of
"getting out".
No doubt. But that is not what you said originally. This is what you
said originally:
"provides massive enjoyment to those who enjoy radio for its content."
and I'd say that the percentage of the population who "enjoy radio for
its content" is far higher than the percentage of the population who
aare housebound OAPs.
Me, I have a DAB receiver purely to get local radio
reports on cold school mornings
What, don't you get decent local FM reception? Do you live underground?
so I don't got and do the school run
without need,
I've told you befo don't inhale butane when posting to Usenet; you
just get your sentences all mixed up.
that and it gives me good R3 / R4 for background when
working at home, and the kids like Smash Hits
Are parenting classes available in your area?
No-one with a kitchen radio as there main source of entertainment
(and there are plenty) uses it for the sound quality,
Are you *so* stupid to think that the complaints have ever had
anything to do with kitchen radios?
Ahhh right, so the Evoke 1 that you're whining about the SQ of is the
rare Evoke 1 Hi-Fi seperate tuner model. Now I understand, sorry I
thought it was the "portable kitchen radio" model.
It is the portable Evoke radio.
The audio quality on portable radios is extremely limited, and the
issue is about the audio quality on separates systems,
micro/midi/mini systems, car stereos and personal radios.
Audio quality on personal FM is restricted by antenna.
My FM reception cosists of a half-wave dipole (cost £15) in my bedroom
in a 1st floor flat. Have a listen to these recordings I've made of
Radios 1, 2, 3 and 4 on he
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/di...es.htm#samples
Are they restricted by antenna? If so, how?
Car FM by road
noise and reception difficulties
How puny is your car stereo such that by turning it up a bit it doesn't
drown out the road and engine noise? Or do you drive with your window
permanently open?
, micro/mini/midi - don't get me
started.
Are you denying that cheap (but not the absolute cheapest -- you can get
them for as little as £40) micro systems sound a hell of a lot better
than they used to do. As I said, I bought a Sony micro system for my
nieces, and on FM it sounded excellent for the money. No hiss
whatsoever.
Seperates, yes, I'll agree a good FM tuner with a good
outdoor antenna
Ah, there you go; it's got to be outdoors. Outdoors is best, but I get
the feeling that you live in some FM blackspot, but I'm afraid that the
vast majority of people don't live in FM blackspots.
is the best way to listen to R4, but other than that
DAB is good enough.
The fact that the vast majority of DAB receivers sold today are
portable radios is irrelevant to the bigger picture, which is that
DAB is meant to take over from FM and be the source of radio
listening on the types of devices I've just mentioned.
And of course most FM listening is.... not seperate HiFi Tuner with
outdoor antenna type stuff.
There you go again.
DAB provides more choice of content.
... at lower audio quality than FM, Freeview, digital satellite,
cable and thousands of broadband internet radio stations....
Ooooh right - and lest we forget that Freeview needs a TV license,
I don't know what percentage of households have a TV, but I reckon it's
over 95%. So it's not a problem.
digital sat needs a dish
So?
, cable / broadband need a subscription.
Again, people aren't likely to get cable or broadband just to get radio,
but because it's there then it's a feasible option for those with these
systems. Did you know there's now 6m homes with broadband and it's
rising very rapidly?
DAB is pretty cheap from the users point of view - 50 quid for a
receiver
with amp and speaker built in....
As I've said, this is for a portable radio and the audio quality on a
portable radio is limited, and it's not an issue. It is an issue for the
other radio receiver types.
Radio 3 sounds better on FM than on DAB, so the best thing you can
get him for Christmas is the installation of an external FM aerial.
Dammit - then I'll have to get him a radio with an outdoor antenna
socket, and wire it all over the house. No. I'll get him DAB.
His loss then.
- hopefully he'll have learned how to use the CD player I
got two years ago by then).
Many people don't have Hi-Fi or give a toss about Hi-Fi,
The vast majority of people do have a hi-fi system, even if they're
only micro systems. Have you actually heard any of the more recent
micro systems? I bought my nieces a Sony micro system for about £115
and it sounds remarkably good for the money.
Yes, I have a Panasonic one (250 quid) in my bedroom. It's great for
the convenience (and a step up from a clock radio)
A step up from a clock radio? This is one of the things I detest about
pro-low audio quality on DAB people: they have to spin at every
opportunity. Basically, the facts are all against you, so you're forced
to spin to justify your support of this low audio quality system.
Pathetic.
but it's only
benefit is size, not value. It plays minidiscs - you know, the ones
that sound worse than CDs.
Hahahaha. Are you *seriously* trying to use an analogy that MDs don't
sound as good as CDs so it's acceptable for DAB to sound a bit worse
than CDs? Newsflash: the audio quality achievable on an MD wipes the
floor with the audio quality on 128kbps DAB music stations. If you
disagree, get your ears syringed.
or have
satellite TV, or even watch any more than the basic FTV channels on
telly, so DAB is definitely the best route for them if they are in
coverage.
In Ofcom's quarterly summary in October 2004, they showed that 28.8%
of all adults had listened to digital radio via digital TV, which,
when considering that 56% of the population have digital TV means
that about 50% have listened to digital radio via digital TV. It's
predicted that 80% of the UK population will have digital TV by
2008, so if the proportion of people that have listened to digital
radio via digital TV is the same in 2008 then 40% of the adult
population will have listened via digital TV by 2008, which is about
19 million adults. And obviously by 2012 when analogue TV is
switched off then it should be at least 24 million adults.
My parents watch so little TV that they are thinking of getting rid,
not going digital.
Your parents are irrelevant. We're talking about macro behaviour, not
ultra-micro individual behaviour.
Hopefully, DAB will remain a system only used for portable radios,
but that is not the intent of the broadcasters.
Easy tuning, good sound,
Listen to any commercial music radio station, Radios 1 & 2, 1Xtra
and 6 Music, and that is anything but "good sound".
Subjective.
Subjective? What, that Radios 1 & 2, 1Xtra and 6 Music don't sound good?
You do need your ears syringing.
It is funny though, you even came out with the classic: you feed your
DAB receiver through your DAC!!!!! Fantastic.
DAB is the weakest link, goodbye.
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