So do I. OK, so that precludes anything on vinyl because any recording on
vinyl is by definition not well recorded. No skin off my nose.

I'm not sure I would go that far. I have been harping on the theoretical
advantages of digital audio since 1976. But I have some LPs dating back to
the early 70s that I would say are very well recorded, and provide the same
level of enjoyment as a well recorded CD, even if there is the occasional
tick or pop. Here are some of my favorite LPs:

- Toto IV - Toto (Columbia)
- Abbey Road - Beatles (Mobile Fidelity)
- Capriccio Italien from the 1812 Overture LP - Tchaikovsky (Telarc)
- Aspen Gold - Kingston Trio (Nautilus)
- Their Greatest Hits 1971-1975 - Eagles (Asylum)

To name a few. Some recordings, such as Rumours by Fleetwood Mac sound
better on the LP. The 1982 CD remaster simply falls flat - not the
technology, but the implementation. On the other hand, the Mirage CD from
the same era sounds great.

"George I M A ****" cmndr _ george @ comcast . net wrote in message
...
You admit you don't care about other opinions either,

Incorrect.

What part of "And I couldn't give a rat's what YOU prefer either." is
incorrect?

If this doesn't tell you how futile it is to argue with ****, then you
deserve the coming rounds of "debating trade" you're heading for.

Yes George, silly isn't it to debate with someone who can actually quote
what you said when you deny it.
You would prefer people with memories shorter than your own, IF they even
exist.

MrT.

"George IM. ****" cmndr _ george @ comcast . net wrote in message
news:repost.4bued3hje57agm4grbe3tnq0f1aksb87up@4ax .com...
The corrected version reads "You, like other
enlightened individuals, are perfectly justified in ignoring the
opinions of gibbering baboons."

Thanks, I will.

MrT.

"roughplanet" wrote in message
u...
Uh huh. So this is where you hang out these days, still banging the same
old
anti-vinyl gong.

If I'm so anti vinyl, how come I still have over 1000 LP's?
Face it Ruff, *I* didn't start this or *ANY* other vinyl Vs digital debate.
Can you say the same?

Different newsgroup, same message. Not much changes, does
it T?

Nope, some people still can't accept that technology has actually improved.

MrT.

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote in message
ups.com...
Here's your challenge, Arns. Give us the percentage of newly or
recently-produced media that passed through at least one tube device.
Let's exclude instrument amplification, as that will hugely skew the
numbers up.

Yes, unlike many of the posters here, most professional guitarists I know
actually accept that there is a difference between musical *production* and
music *reproduction*

Too subtle a concept for many it seems.

MrT.

"Keith G" wrote in message
...
No Jenn you've got it all wrong. We're accusing vinyl fans of
distorting established scientific facts to support their delusional
position that the best sounding LPs sound more lifelike than a
well-made CD.


Which, of course, it does - ask anybody who isn't in *denial*....

Did you forget the smiley, or the medication :-)

MrT.

"Jenn" wrote in message

et...
You've missed the point yet again. My point is that I've distorted
NOTHING. You and Mr. T can keep distorting my statements any way you
wish to. I "pity the fools" who can read simple posts.

Yep, your posts are so simple they are content free it seems. ANY
interpretation is strongly denied!

MrT.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
. ..
Yep it's been happening for 25 years and no sign of
stopping.

My take is that now that the DJ-driven demand for vinyl is falling off,
and
sales are already dropping preciptiously, the hype will trail off.

I'll bet it doesn't, unfortunately.

Vinylista propaganda is more like an indeology than a religion. Converting
to Vinylism seems to often involve refuting the established claims of
science,

Isn't that just what Religion did too? Should we still accept that the sun
and stars revolve around the earth?
Was Darwin right, or just another heretic like Galileo?
And how old is the universe in your religion Arny?
What about the so called "intelligent design", "debate"?

Still let's NOT go down that track in this newsgroup! :-)

MrT.

"Keith G" wrote in message
...
No Arny, you've got that all wrong (unless you are *distorting* again
which, of course, is highly likely) - it's CDs that are disappearing
rapidly.

Where the hell do YOU live?
But I note you do NOT claim vinyl sales have even reached the most minuscule
percentage of CD sales, or availability.

It's amazing what you can do with statistics though. An Audio rag recently
claimed that turntable sales in England were greater than CD player sales
last year.
Even IF true, what they conveniently ignored was the millions of DVD player,
SACD player, DVDA player and other assorted hybrid player sales, that all
play standard CD disks.
"Never let the facts get in the way of a good argument" is still a widely
accepted philosophy it seems.

MrT.

"Rob" wrote in message
...
My take is that they PREFER the so called "euphonic distortions",

Prefer the sound, OK. I think you just have to take a deep breath,
relax, and get over it.

And IF they did, these debates would have finished 25 years ago.
Some people still listen to wax cylinders, without needing to "prove" they
are better than CD

but can't
possibly accept the fact that they may PREFER something not actually as
technically accurate.

I don't think 'they' know or care, in general.

And the ones that don't DO NOT post their opinions here obviously.


They then have to come up with stupid explanations
plausible to themselves,

Really? Again, generally people just prefer the sound. The 'why' isn't
particularly important. Knowing why might be interesting, but it's
hardly requisite.

Sure it is when they are claiming to the world that their *preference* is
technically superior, when all proof is to the contrary.

MrT.